Russian Space News

[warhammerautist]

Thread that highlights any of their technological breakthroughs for space, what projects they are doing, who they are competing against and what they are doing with any partner countries involved.

Angara Rocket Projects

Angara-A5M: https://ria.ru/20240423/varochko-1941549788.html?ysclid=lxwk4ag283375449809 https://ria.ru/20240417/angara-1940631086.html?in=t test launch will be in 2027, payload to LEO is 27 tons, RD-191M engine has 10% more thrust increasing the past payload of the old A5 rocket.

Angara-A5V: https://tass.com/science/866601 In 2016 they predicted it would launch in 2026, https://ria.ru/20240417/kosmos-1940631819.html?in=t predict that flight tests will be in 2030. 1st and 2nd stage engines are returnable, 3rd stage will be hydrogen with a payload of 38 tons to orbit.

Amur Rocket Project

https://rg.ru/2020/10/05/pusk-mnogo...n-na-2026-god.html?ysclid=lxwo5onxpw931403132 launch was scheduled for 2026. https://www.interfax.ru/russia/955516 2024 source states launch is scheduled for 2030. Picture is self explanatory, supposedly 50-100 re-use claims according different sources out there. One even claims 300 re-uses https://web.archive.org/web/20201011064350/https://www.roscosmos.ru/29357/

Miniature/Winged Body Rocket Projects.
Current re-usable rocket methods to what Space X and what they are trying to do with Amur is having half the fuel burn to reach orbit and half the fuel to burn to land and be re-used. A more cheaper method for re-usability is using control surfaces of using wings with some fuel to re-land. Sadly the Baikal rocket went nowhere but they are going back to winged body designs for re-usability which is something not worth underestimating because of market potential.
Krylo-SV/Irkut?: stages of rocket re-usability.


I think the Krylo-SV and Irkut are the same fucking rocket with two different name. https://vpk.name/en/552112_the-timi...winged-stage-krylo-sv-has-been-announced.html https://en.topwar.ru/188073-russkij...eta-nositel-navjazat-konkurenciju-zapadu.html uses methane for launch and a turbo jet engine with wings and parachute to land and re-use engine. One time use is 580 kilograms for LEO re-usable is 400 kilograms to LEO, test flight is supposedly scheduled some time this year.

Start-1M: https://tass.com/science/1774381 ultra-light single use rocket ready for flight in 2026. No further details about it other than that.

https://rostec.ru/news/rostekh-sozd...ateli-dlya-sverkhlegkikh-kosmicheskikh-raket/ UEC is creating engines that will launch 250kg to orbit. Maybe they are working on a different light rocket design and investment for this project is 2.7 billion rubles.

Yenisei/Don Rocket
super heavy rocket designs, the Yenisei was for 103 tons to orbit and the Don rocket was 140 tons to orbit. Yenisei was expected to fly in 2028 by design was cancelled awhile back supposedly for a methane design over a kerosene design. https://tass.ru/kosmos/20526431 Turns out the new super heavy class rocket is supposedly scheduled for a 2033 flight with the investment in the project at 600 billion rubles, payload is 90 tons to LEO.

Nuklon Nuclear Space Tug




Zeus is to be launched in 2030 being a nuclear reactor with MPD thrusters dropping off multiple payloads in its travels in the solar system at a 50 month time period.


ROSS(Russian Orbital Space Station
expected to be completed by 2035



Technological Breakthroughs
News that is considered of high importance to make major changes in space travel.

Fuel Replacement for Xenon: https://www.gazeta.ru/science/news/2022/08/17/18345194.shtml?ysclid=l7119e38n3971661861 https://glav.su/forum/threads/1668028 Xenon is super expensive do Krypton and Argon are being considered solutions for MPD thrusters for high speed space travel.

Aerospike Engines: https://tass.ru/kosmos/18947311?ysclid=lxwubh4lo6104991468

Material that burns above 4000 Celsius from kinetic heat: https://russian.rt.com/science/article/748188-karbonitrid-gafniya

3000 second engine thrust new record: https://nurman.ru/news/jarlburensta...y-dlitelnostyu-raboty-r16444/#google_vignette

 

[SocialDislocationAuto]

What's the Russian obsession with still using tapered ACME threads for interlocking connections in high pressure application? Tcharakov you know we do self-locking threads these days, right?

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Here's a selection to get us started.

March 20, 2023: Russia’s Space Program Is in Big Trouble (archive)

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August 21, 2023: Russian space agency chief blames decades of inactivity for Luna-25 lander’s crash on the moon (archive)

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August 22, 2023: A failed lunar mission dents Russian pride and reflects deeper problems with Moscow’s space industry (archive)

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September 3, 2023: Corruption, budget cuts and politicization break down Russia’s space muscle (archive)

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April 1, 2024: Russia has a plan to “restore” its dominant position in the global launch market (archive)

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June 24, 2024: Ukraine Used Prized ATACMS Missiles To Strike Unique Cold War-Era Space Communications Station (archive)

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[ConsentAccidentVictimNo98]

Kinda sad that Russia had one of the premier space programs in the world, and now its in such a sorry state. I mean, it would have been difficult for Russia to maintain the level of excellence of the Soviet space effort, given that a lot of it was distributed across the Soviet states in countries such as Ukraine (eg Zenit rocket) and Kazakhstan with Baikonur. A lot of this is visible with the degradation of plans for the Russian segment of the ISS. Three major modules were cut. What remains concurrently is Zvezda, a module meant to be the core for Mir-2 and was already ready to fly before the ISS; Zarya (which is owned by the US); Two smaller laboratory modules; Poisk (a docking module); Nauka (which kept on getting delayed over, over and again and Prichal (which is a node module). Two of the cancelled Russian major labs were to be docked to Prichal.



This is to not say there are not cancelled American modules, there are two at the front of the station attached to node 2 Harmony. One was a habitation module and the other was a centrifuge for experiments. The former is not important as sleeping bags can be put up anywhere in the station, with astronauts sometimes sleeping within their capsules. The latter is well, yeah... It would have allowed experiments from 0.01g-2gs on orbit.

 

[warhammerautist]

Trying to yeet starship into orbit, existing falcon rocket launches and talking about Mars pretty much summarizes any kind of Space X thread on any kind of forum, which is why I suggested a Russian Space thread here because there is always something to talk about in their projects for any kind of news like pic related.


So I am assuming that Space X is worthy enough to be their competitor or only existing one?

1. I admit it there were set backs to some of their rocket projects when I started the thread. but say that we do get Amur and some of the new Angara rockets into orbit around 2030, is Space X making any new designs for light and heavy weight rockets using methane or more re-uses or their only project is to get Starship functional in orbit with payloads? Will they just wait to get out-selled by these russian rocket designs as a possibility than make a design? Or they have enough confidence with current events that the US will still stay dominant in threatening countries with sanctions instead of a multi-polar world happening? Did they say they are developing any kind of new light or heavy rockets that will surpass their existing designs or what their competition is planning?

2.Race to Mars is rather a sophisticated matter of deciding if there is a wrong or right way of doing it. NASA suggested in their blue prints a nuclear reactor with MPD thrusters was the plans for a manned mars mission. I am assuming Musk is making a large rocket, have it refuel in orbit, land on moon to launch or go straight to Mars for a long period of time because of chemical rockets, land on surface, collect fuel on Mars than head back to earth. Or because Russia based on the Burestvestnik project have shown they are in a different level of nuclear miniaturization technology that they can make a sufficient project where they can use chemical fuel to take off from earth and mars and just use electric engines to go back and forth in a faster time period between earth and mars. Angara is for their Zeus project, their new heavy rocket design might be for something more.

Winged body projects, aerospike engines, superlight rockets, research projects to put humans into deep sleep, material that works several times better than lead absorbing radiation while weighing lighter, new rocket engines that burn for 3000 seconds instead of 300, etc, etc. I might be ignorant but does US or Space X have any thing else to talk about other than satellites, existing falcon launches and starship yeeting?

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

SpaceX isn't "trying" to reach orbit with Starship anymore, they've already done it. Right now they're working on recovering the booster and keeping the ship intact after reentry.

Rocket Lab is covering small rockets with Electron. $7.5 million for up to 320 kg to LEO, 200(+?) kg to SSO (700 kg suborbital with HASTE derivative). Some reusability of Electron is possible. Starship might end up cheaper to launch than that, even at its current size. They don't care about small, if anything, they will keep making it bigger. The original ITS plans were for a 12-meter wide rocket instead of 9-meter, and revisions of Starship have made it significantly taller. It's at 124.4 meters with V2, and could be around 150 meters for V3.

NASA is testing nuclear thermal engines "for Mars". SpaceX is going all chemical, for the foreseeable future at least. They want to make methane and oxygen on Mars from water and CO2. If they get serious about colonization (I doubt it) then not every ship needs to be sent back. Some of them could be used as habitats, storage, or torn apart for scrap metal.

 

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[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Facing “financial crisis,” Russia on pace for lowest launch total in 6 decades (archive)

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[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

https://x.com/Space_Station/status/1860798995905540336

On Nov. 23, the unpiloted Progress 90 resupply spacecraft successfully docked to the International Space Station’s Poisk module. After opening the Progress spacecraft's hatch, the Roscosmos cosmonauts noticed an unexpected odor and observed small droplets, prompting the crew to close the Poisk hatch to the rest of the Russian segment. Space station air scrubbers and contaminant sensors monitored the station’s atmosphere following the observation, and on Sunday, flight controllers determined air quality inside the space station was at normal levels. There are no concerns for the crew, and as of Sunday afternoon, the crew is working to open the hatch between Poisk and Progress while all other space station operations are proceeding as planned.

After Russian ship docks to space station, astronauts report a foul smell (archive)

However, the US space agency may be slightly downplaying the seriousness of the event. According to Anatoly Zak of Russian Space Web, a reliable independent website, the smell was "toxic" and prompted the Russian cosmonauts to immediately close the hatch leading to the Progress spacecraft that launched from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan on Thursday.

Facing financial and staffing pressures due to the ongoing Russian war against Ukraine, the main Russian space corporation, Roscosmos, has faced a series of technical problems as it has sought to fly people and supplies to the International Space Station in recent years.

Uh oh, stinky.

 

[Cedric_Eff]

Out of date, but I love how they thought about going back to Salyut (first gen).

If this happens, Russia would be the First Nation to abandon multi modular designs in favor of small single use station. While other nations and companies are gearing up to build larger stations. Like Starlab or Orbital Reef.

 

[grump]

Russian Space News:

1. Plenty of ideas and talk without any money to do it.

2. Soyuz

3. China stealing everything of value left in the Russian program that's not nailed down and Russia too cucked to do anything about it because China is ostensibly a partner, more like master in the fight against America.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Ars Technica: Russian space official: “We need to stop lying to ourselves” about health of industry (archive)

"The situation is critical: multi-million dollar debts, interest on loans that 'eat up' the budget, many processes that are ineffective, and a significant part of the team has lost motivation and a sense of shared responsibility," said Igor Maltsev, chief of RSC Energia, which is located near Moscow.

In reality, the Russian space program is chronically underfunded, and the war against Ukraine has only accelerated the depletion of talent and resources. Russia cannot afford new spacecraft and rockets when it needs munitions and men for the front lines.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Ars Technica: After Russian spaceport firm fails to pay bills, electric company turns the lights off (archive)

One of Russia’s most important projects over the last 15 years has been the construction of the Vostochny spaceport as the country seeks to fly its rockets from native soil and modernize its launch operations.

However, the initiative has been a fiasco from the start. After construction began in 2011, the project was beset by hunger strikes, claims of unpaid workers, and the theft of $126 million. Additionally, a man driving a diamond-encrusted Mercedes was arrested after embezzling $75,000. Five years ago, there was another purge of top officials after another round of corruption.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

I did see this earlier but forgot to post it anywhere:

Ars Technica: Before a Soyuz launch Thursday someone forgot to secure a 20-ton service platform (archive) (mega)

Russia has plenty of launch pads, both in Russia and neighboring countries, including Kazakhstan, that were formerly part of the Soviet Union. However, Site 31 at Baikonur is the country’s only pad presently configured to handle launches of the Soyuz rocket and two spacecraft critical to the space station, the cargo-only Progress vehicle and the Soyuz crew capsule.

The Independent: Russia accidentally destroys its only way of sending astronauts to space (archive) (mega) (A&N thread)

The Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan will be unable to host launches until repairs are made, according to the space agency Roscosmos, marking the first time in decades that Russia has lost the ability to send people to space.

Before the pad damage:

Ars Technica: Russia’s Soyuz 5 will soon come alive. But will anyone want to fly on it? (archive) (mega)

Although the Soyuz 5 is a new vehicle, it does not represent a major leap forward in technology. Rather it is, in many ways, a conventional reaction to commercial boosters developed in the West as well as the country’s prolonged war against Ukraine. Whether this strategy will be successful remains to be seen.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Ars Technica: Russia is about to do the most Russia thing ever with its next space station (archive) (mega)

Oleg Orlov, director of the Institute of Biomedical Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences, said ROS will no longer be composed of entirely new modules. Rather, its core will be the Russian segment of the International Space Station.

Orlov’s announcement sheds light on a statement earlier in December from First Deputy Prime Minister Denis Manturov on the station’s orbit, which now makes more sense. “We’ve decided on a 51.6-degree inclination angle for our ROS space station,” he said. “Previously, we were considering a 96-degree inclination angle.” The International Space Station is situated in a 51.6-degree inclination orbit, easily accessible from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan.

Essentially, then, in 2030, the Russian segment of the International Space Station will separate from the American-controlled side. A SpaceX Dragon spacecraft will then maneuver the aging US segment to reenter the atmosphere in a controlled manner and splash down into a remote area of the Pacific Ocean.

Meanwhile, the Russian core will fly onward. Some elements will have been in orbit for more than 30 years.

This is clearly a money-saving move for Russia. Given its war-strapped economy, the country cannot afford major investments in civil space projects. It has been clear for some time that ROS was largely a vaporware project. However, basing a new station on decades-old elements of the space station, which have shown signs of cracking and leaking, is remarkable even for Russia’s threadbare space program.

Russia’s justification for the change is amusing. Manturov and the chief of Roscosmos, Dmitry Bakanov, have said that putting ROS at an inclination of 51.6 degrees would enable interaction with an Indian station, which may fly in a similar orbit. So maybe there can be some collaboration in the time before Russia’s station falls apart and India’s begins to fly?

That is thin gruel, indeed, upon which to justify such a monumental decision.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Ars Technica: After half a decade, the Russian space station segment stopped leaking (archive)

“Following additional inspections and sealing activities, the pressure in the transfer tunnel attached to the Zvezda Service Module of the International Space Station, known as the PrK, is holding steady in a stable configuration,” a space agency spokesman, Josh Finch, told Ars. “NASA and Roscosmos continue to monitor and investigate the previously observed cracks for any future changes that may occur.”

Not another humiliation this time.

 

[Dreamland]

Was this due to some higher-up apparachik outsourcing the tunnel construction to his cousin at "Crazy Oleg's Scrap and metal products" or is related to this NASA lesbian clogging the toilet and drilling holes in the ISS because her GF left her?

Very sad to watch Russia's decline since the 80's. They achieved so much with so little, and still are the only ones who managed to land probes on venus.