War Russian Citizens Are Now Being Prepped for Nuclear War - Russian state TV is increasingly hysterical in its forecasts of an upcoming war, warning domestic audiences that the conflict could even become nuclear.

1640206758019.png

The rhetoric on Kremlin-funded state television is amping up the sense of urgency around Russian President Vladimir Putin’s NATO “ultimatum.” Olga Skabeeva, the host of state TV show 60 Minutes, said Tuesday: “The level of anxiety has reached its maximum. We’re 20 days away from the expiration of the ultimatum and the stakes are rising, even though it seems they couldn’t be any higher.”

One day after Moscow submitted a draft of its Russia-U.S. security treaty, containing demands that NATO roll back its military deployments in Europe and deny membership to Ukraine and other post-Soviet countries, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov threatened that Moscow would raise the stakes if the West didn’t treat its demands seriously. On Monday, he told Interfax that Russia needs answers “urgently, because the situation is very difficult.”

Pro-Kremlin propagandists and state-media experts filled in the blanks with what kind of escalation should be expected. On Sunday’s edition of News of the Week, state-TV host Dmitry Kiselyov explained: “Russia… prepared and handed over to the Americans its written proposals on strategic stability, or, more simply, on the prevention of nuclear war, since we are already at a critical point, to be honest… It’s simple. The U.S. and NATO must roll back from our borders, otherwise we will, figuratively speaking, ‘roll up’ to their borders and create symmetrical, unacceptable risks… If you put a gun to our head, we will respond in kind… The whole point is that the development of the Ukrainian territory by the [Western] bloc is not only Ukraine’s business. This is a complete breakdown of the global balance, which poses an existential threat to Russia. In other words, for Russia it is a matter of life and death… We simply will not allow it, regardless of the cost to us, and regardless of the cost to those responsible for it.”

Kiselyov, notorious for his previous assertion that Russia is the only country that can reduce the U.S. to a pile of radioactive ash, revisited his beloved “argument” to explain why the United States will be willing to entertain Putin’s unreasonable proposition. He asserted that Russia is willing to suffer any consequences and go to any lengths to get what it wants: “Never before has anyone published the texts of the proposed treaties. But never before in the 21st century has the situation been so acute, and the risks so great. Non-standard situations require non-standard approaches. Secondly, we’re holding very strong cards in our hands. Our hypersonic weapons are guaranteed to produce a response that is so unpleasant for America to hear: being reduced to radioactive ash.”

Putin ordered two nuclear-capable long-range bombers to fly into European airspace this weekend, as they were dispatched to patrol Belarus. Just a week ago, Russia warned that it would redeploy intermediate-range nuclear weapons on its Western flank—in striking distance of central Europe—for the first time since they were banned in a 1987 treaty between presidents Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev.

There have also been grim signs of things to come from the Russian government. A new national standard for “Urgent burial of corpses in peacetime and wartime” has been introduced by the government in recent months. It will come into force on Feb. 1, 2022, and specifies the burial in mass graves to be dug by bulldozers, disposing of as many as 1,000 bodies in a 24-hour time period. Bodies are to be placed “in four layers, either in bags, wooden coffins or zinc coffins, prepared in advance… and subsequently covered with dirt. Then the mass graves will be compacted with a bulldozer, filled with “a mineral binder” and equipped with “devices for the absorption and neutralization of radioactive, hazardous chemicals and biological agents formed during the decomposition of corpses.”

Russia’s government agency responsible for the creation of the new standards did not respond to journalists’ inquiries as to the purpose behind this effort. Military expert Alexander Goltz told newspaper Novye Izvestiya: “Those who prepared these standards thought in terms of either a global epidemic or a global war, in which not only the military, but also the civilian population would die. This is only possible with the use of nuclear weapons.”

Former military spokesman Viktor Baranets concurred and added: “It may turn out that we will have to send troops not only to Donetsk and the Lugansk regions, but also to the greater Ukraine. We have a flaming fuse in the Black Sea region. There are also dangers in the region of Belarus and concerns in the Kaliningrad region. [NATO] has grandiose plans for the immediate capture of the Kaliningrad region, even with the use of nuclear weapons. And how, then, will we bury? One by one, or what?” He added: “We’re getting ready for the major crises.”

Chess legend and a highly knowledgeable critic of the Kremlin Garry Kasparov—who was way ahead of his time with his 2016 book Winter Is Coming: Why Vladimir Putin and the Enemies of the Free World Must Be Stoppeddescribed the Russian government’s creation of the “mass burial” standard as one of “the signposts on the way to apocalypse.”

Propagandists on Russia’s state-funded television stressed that Moscow is now approaching the West from a position of strength. Discussing the Kremlin’s bold and unreasonable ultimatums to the U.S. and its allies, Kiselyov said: “This is a moment of truth in our relations with America, in which we move on to complete reciprocity… From a position of strength, we simply designate a ‘cause and effect’ relationship. That’s how it will be.” With brazen arrogance of a seasoned mobster borrowed from The Godfather, Russia’s top propagandist concluded: “You, over there in the U.S., NATO and the EU, decide for yourself: Is Russia making an offer that can be refused?”

On Saturday, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Grushko discussed Putin’s ultimatum to the United States and NATO with pro-Kremlin propagandist Vladimir Soloviev, who donned a red hoodie emblazoned with a Soviet hammer and sickle emblem. In an episode of Soloviev’s show entitled “NATO’s Capitulation,” Grushko said: “The moment of truth has come. We have reached a red line and our proposals aim to pull us away from this red line and start normal dialogue that will put security interests at the forefront.” He described the Kremlin’s hard-nosed demand to the West as “throwing the rock into their swamp” and explained that Western refusal to play by Moscow’s rules will lead to “a military or military-technical response,” with Russia “creating counter-threats” to the United States and its allies.

On Monday, in response to the question as to whether Russia could deploy nuclear weapons to Belarus, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists: “It’s no secret that the deployment of various kinds of weapons near our borders, which can pose a danger to us, clearly requires adequate steps to balance the situation. Various options are available.”

In past years, Russian lawmakers have been advocating the placement of Russia’s advanced weapons systems in Cuba, Central America, and elsewhere “in America’s underbelly.” Those options likely remain on Moscow’s menu. On Tuesday, state-TV host Olga Skabeeva pointed out: “We’re contemplating placing our nuclear weapons in Cuba or Venezuela.”

Conveying the message that could be summed up as “USSR or bust,” Russia’s national ice hockey team sparked outrage in Europe by wearing Soviet uniforms in Euro Hockey Tour’s Channel One Cup in Moscow on Sunday. The return to Soviet imagery is in total coordination with Putin’s ultimatum to the West that seeks a rematch in the Cold War that was lost by the Soviet Union.

On Monday, Skabeeva surmised: “The United States have to sign off on the notion that their hegemony is over.”

She added: “The declaration about a military response is being made by our Foreign Affairs Ministry… which never happened before. Russia is placing the United States in a no-win situation: either they retreat voluntarily, or we will force them to retreat. At the same time, Russia is not taking any obligations upon itself with respect to the preservation of Ukraine, much less of its sovereignty.”


 
Oh no Mr Russia, please don't nuke Washington DC, anything but that!
 
Putin has been warning that this is the way things have been heading for over a decade and people are surprised? Especially when NATO dude and that one Republican pretty much outright threatened to nuke Russia recently.

Seriously, just watch Putin's old interviews about the US deployment of anti-nukes near Russia's borders and NATO encroaching on Russia's territory and what he's been saying it's gonna eventually lead to (spoilers: he said it'll lead to the restart of the Cold War).
If you take a look at Russia's overall position, they aren't in a position to start shit. Unless things changed recently in Ukraine Russia is bogged down in a border war across on a line on a map there, unable to force Kiev to make actual concessions aside from a cease-fire both sides constantly violate. Which is honestly fucking hilarious if half of a rump state can hold off the Russian bear with just determination and MRE's and outdated body armor supplied as the primary foreign aid. I'm with @Jet Fuel Johnny on matters, since nations never beat the "We're totally fucking ready" drum this hard unless its to hide the fact they're completely toothless.
All it takes is a spark in a powder keg to start a war, and the Levant is this era's Balkans.
 
Honestly' - Nuclear threats to NATO isn't the best move. If you really want to fuck over NATO, Russia should just work out some deal where they can instead work trade deals out with the west and buttfuck China's economy in exchange for some shtity fake-pledge that old USSR countries will totes not join up with the west on the first sign of trouble and some sweet money. Maybe work some deal where you get more off that yummy black sea.

The funny thing is Russia really has the worse allies. You know if the legendary nuclear showdown went up that China and all those middle east countries would instantly be like "lol cya dude" and wait until it was all over while picking up all the rubble and dead bodies for processing, trying to avoid the eye of India and Israel always cast upon them.

The UK, French and Germans though? They seriously want to die because they are retarded mutants and wouldn't give a shit. They would go full hog in on that.
 
If you take a look at Russia's overall position, they aren't in a position to start shit. Unless things changed recently in Ukraine Russia is bogged down in a border war across on a line on a map there, unable to force Kiev to make actual concessions aside from a cease-fire both sides constantly violate. Which is honestly fucking hilarious if half of a rump state can hold off the Russian bear with just determination and MRE's and outdated body armor supplied as the primary foreign aid. I'm with @Jet Fuel Johnny on matters, since nations never beat the "We're totally fucking ready" drum this hard unless its to hide the fact they're completely toothless.

All it takes is a spark in a powder keg to start a war, and the Levant is this era's Balkans.
Yeah for all the Sabre rattling Russia does, they really don't actually have that strong of a position. Their economy is a fucking joke. Seriously, their gdp is less than 10% of the United States, and all those fancy hi tech weapons systems they love to show off have production runs of a few dozen at most. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if a significant portion of their nukes are nonfunctional as well. All of this shit is for domestic consumption, as a distraction from how corrupt and broke their government is.
 
Yeah for all the Sabre rattling Russia does, they really don't actually have that strong of a position. Their economy is a fucking joke. Seriously, their gdp is less than 10% of the United States, and all those fancy hi tech weapons systems they love to show off have production runs of a few dozen at most. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if a significant portion of their nukes are nonfunctional as well. All of this shit is for domestic consumption, as a distraction from how corrupt and broke their government is.
Yep. Those super-duper Armatas will being rolling off the production lines in quantity aaaaaany year now.

For those curious, in the 1980's when the USSR was desperately pumping every spare ruble they had into their military, they made all of 36 Tu-160 Blackjack supersonic bombers, only 27 ready for actual service, 9 as test planes. They were explicitly designed to fly super high and super fast... but they still couldn't fly as high or as fast as the F-15's that would have been on interception duty. Oops. Meanwhile the USA made 100 B-1B Lancers, which while not capable of flying as high or as fast, could deliver conventional ordnance as opposed to carrying nothing but nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, and do so as a bunch of sneaky cheeki breeki bastards thanks to a tiny RCS and extreme low-level maneuverability.
 
Última edición:
So Schoolchildren DONT train for a Nuke anymore?
God im old, back in my time, we trained in school what to do when the Russians attack the fulda gap. its mostly running to the bunker thats not operational and hide in the deeps of the schools building.
 
So Schoolchildren DONT train for a Nuke anymore?
God im old, back in my time, we trained in school what to do when the Russians attack the fulda gap. its mostly running to the bunker thats not operational and hide in the deeps of the schools building.
We did that too except it wasn’t Russians it was a bunch of goat fuckers with sandy vaginas and turbans.
 
That's fucking stupid, "just one little nuke" is how you end up with Iskanders flying towards Berlin and Borei class submarines firing at DC
The worst part of it was there wasn't any push back to that statement. Now to me if I heard that, I would have asked the guest if he was retarded or fucking stupid.
 
Yep. Those super-duper Armatas will being rolling off the production lines in quantity aaaaaany year now.

For those curious, in the 1980's when the USSR was desperately pumping every spare ruble they had into their military, they made all of 36 Tu-160 Blackjack supersonic bombers, only 27 ready for actual service, 9 as test planes. They were explicitly designed to fly super high and super fast... but they still couldn't fly as high or as fast as the F-15's that would have been on interception duty. Oops. Meanwhile the USA made 100 B-1B Lancers, which while not capable of flying as high or as fast, could deliver conventional ordnance as opposed to carrying nothing but nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, and do so as a bunch of sneaky cheeki breeki bastards thanks to a tiny RCS and extreme low-level maneuverability.
OTOH it's not like Russia would be fighting a modern and well equipped army. Polished up T-80s and BMP-3s in armor-heavy battalion groups, supported by Russian air dominance over Ukraine and modern drone support...You saw how Azerbaijan steamrolled Armenian trenches under conditions like that, right? As long as NATO doesn't commit to something like a no-fly zone and a shooting war with Russia, Ukraine can't credibly resist. Russia could seize the Dnipier in weeks and freeze the conflict there.
 
OTOH it's not like Russia would be fighting a modern and well equipped army. Polished up T-80s and BMP-3s in armor-heavy battalion groups, supported by Russian air dominance over Ukraine and modern drone support...You saw how Azerbaijan steamrolled Armenian trenches under conditions like that, right? As long as NATO doesn't commit to something like a no-fly zone and a shooting war with Russia, Ukraine can't credibly resist. Russia could seize the Dnipier in weeks and freeze the conflict there.
You do realize Ukraine isn't exactly terribly armed, right? They've been making their own T-80 derivatives for a little while, including the modernized T-84, even selling that internationally to Thailand. Turns out they inherited a fair bit of the USSR's military industry during the split, such as the Malyshev factories and the Kharkiv Morozov design bureau. There's a reason the Russians haven't been able to completely overrun them, not without taking an unacceptable level of casualties.
 
Atrás
Top Abajo