Roe V Wade chimpout thread - thread documenting chimpouts due to the overturning of Roe V Wade

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Basic Blonde Boy dijo:
Ehh…

I think I am more in agreement with how the Dems did absolutely nothing about the issue for years. She was right in calling them out on that. Otherwise, yeah, it was just pointless screaming into a void.
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Ahh, I see. Yeah I suppose she was making that point under it all. To me that sounded like a paint by numbers complaint from a pundit, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. Fair.
 
Basic Blonde Boy dijo:
Ehh…

I think I am more in agreement with how the Dems did absolutely nothing about the issue for years. She was right in calling them out on that. Otherwise, yeah, it was just pointless screaming into a void.
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The reason is that, like Brexit, the one thing politicians are afraid of is actually gauging what the public thinks. It's far easier to make fake statistics on how 99.99% of women support abortion and pass legislation through the court, than actually making a federal law and finding out that the opposite is true.
 
 
wtfNeedSignUp dijo:
The reason is that, like Brexit, the one thing politicians are afraid of is actually gauging what the public thinks. It's far easier to make fake statistics on how 99.99% of women support abortion and pass legislation through the court, than actually making a federal law and finding out that the opposite is true.
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I don't think they find it hard or fearful to gauge the public in general; it's more about how you get laws through for the people that elect you, regardless of public opinion.

"the people" not referring to voters in general, in this case.
 
I see people talking about California seceding. I'm worried Portland, Salem, Eugene, and their ilk will try to get Oregon to secede if California goes down that road. They already tried once when Trump was elected, although they were bullied into stopping, can't wait for it to happen again but this time with a few million 3 AM ballots.
 
With all the talk of deleting your period app. I love how a misinterpretation of a court case on killing your baby is what finally made these dumbasses realize the giving all your medical info to a third party for the convenience of seeing what days you are bleeding is really fucking stupid. Maybe people will finally start hoarding their personal data and give a hoot about privacy regulations.
 
Dagobert dijo:
I see people talking about California seceding. I'm worried Portland, Salem, Eugene, and their ilk will try to get Oregon to secede if California goes down that road.
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I can't express just how much I want this to happen, Reconstruction 2.0 will be lit after the executions for sedition.
'So sorry, you don't get to have local government until Federal courts get around to certifying your total compliance with the US Constitution and Federal law.'
 
Dagobert dijo:
I see people talking about California seceding. I'm worried Portland, Salem, Eugene, and their ilk will try to get Oregon to secede if California goes down that road. They already tried once when Trump was elected, although they were bullied into stopping, can't wait for it to happen again but this time with a few million 3 AM ballots.
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If Cali were to go, the rest of the west coast would likely follow, given how politically aligned they are (yes, I know it's just the major population centers of those states - but those population centers believe strongly they should get to dictate things to the rest of the state and they do exactly that).

But I don't think it will be liberal or progressive states that actually secede.

What I think is going to happen is eventually they'll have another small window in which they control all 3 branches (probably after the next Republican POTUS, maybe 2-4 election cycles out, since we tik tok between Republicans and Democrats in that regard), but without a Manchin type roadblock.

They'll proceed to eliminate the fillibuster and then almost immediately both "reshape" the court (stacking it with progressives' minded judges who don't have a consistent judicial framework) and pass "voter reform" laws that are aimed at making sure they retain power (probably dropping the voting age to 16, along with establishing a couple new states that tip the senate permanently blue). Note that these two things are already stated as things they want to do (the former openly, the latter implicitly under the guise of "enfranchising more people").

At which point red states will start ignoring the reshaped court, the Feds'll try to crack down on them, and they'll end up being the states that secede over it since at that point they're effectively disenfranchised from the Federal government (but will do so claiming to be the legitimate followers of the Constitution, rather than a rehash of the civil war era when they formed an entirely different type of government. Probably will tweak things a bit with some amendments).
 
Jimjamflimflam dijo:
With all the talk of deleting your period app. I love how a misinterpretation of a court case on killing your baby is what finally made these dumbasses realize the giving all your medical info to a third party for the convenience of seeing what days you are bleeding is really fucking stupid. Maybe people will finally start hoarding their personal data and give a hoot about privacy regulations.
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Why are period apps pro life now? Because the fancy ones tell you your most fertile days?
 
Dergint dijo:
Why are period apps pro life now? Because the fancy ones tell you your most fertile days?
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My guess is that they are convinced that the next step in the United States of Gilead is that TPTB will find out who missed their periods, indicating a possible pregnancy and I guess whisk them away to the pregnancy camps where they will be forced to carry to term.

It sounds unbelievable, but used to know a chick, many years back, who was absolutely certain that birthing camps were on the horizon where they will be forced to become breeding sows. I can only imagine the freak out she's having today.
 
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Why are period apps pro life now? Because the fancy ones tell you your most fertile days?
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The fear is that somehow the state can use the period tracking data to incriminate women who use the apps.

Of course the fear is misplaced since the women seeking abortions aren't held criminally liable by current legislation in states that are banning it, AFAIK. Not to mention it doesn't affect anyone in a blue state, period. It's mostly virtue signaling to make the effects of the SC decision seem worse than it is.
 
introvertedobserver dijo:
The fear is that somehow the state can use the period tracking data to incriminate women who use the apps.
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And here I thought it would be something like Chick-fil-A where they're funding life somehow.

Maybe if the left has kept to their convictions about China back when sweatshops and Foxconn were bad, they'd have known about China and the fertility databases, and they'd seem reasonably paranoid now. But nooooo, somehow they have to make a perfectly reasonable paranoia absolutely retarded.
 
Pauly Snore dijo:
There's an interactive map here, but i'll also post a screenshot for mobile users. Interactive Map

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Trigger ban already took effect
Utah (June 24th)
Missouri (June 24th)
Arkansas (June 24th)
Alabama (June 24th)
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Lousiana
Kentucky

Trigger ban within days
Mississippi (state attorney general must certify the court's decision)

Trigger ban within 30 days
Texas
Idaho
Tennessee

Trigger Ban within 30 days after state's legislative council approves
North Dakota

Trigger ban within 30 days and governor must certify court's decision
Wyoming

Possibility of abortion being banned
Iowa (has a six week ban from 2018 that was ruled unconsitutional but could be broutght back)
Indiana (has a republican governor who has called a special session of the state legislature to pass new antiabortion laws ‘in short order’)
Ohio (has a six week ban likely to be enforced)
West Virignia (has a pre-roe abortion ban that could be brought back and a constitutional amendment specifying that West Virginians do not have a right to abortion)
Georgia (has a six week ban pending in the courts)
South Carolina (has a six week ban blocked by courts that is likely to be enforced)
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Just for reference here is before and after Roe laws.
Before:
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After:

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Notice how all pre-Roe laws were more liberal than the majority of Europe. Including 2 post-Roe maps to show how chaotic the mapping is for what's going on in each state.
 
Lemmingwise dijo:
I don't think they find it hard or fearful to gauge the public in general; it's more about how you get laws through for the people that elect you, regardless of public opinion.

"the people" not referring to voters in general, in this case.
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If that was the case they actually would have had a reason to enshrine those things into law even after (pretty much illegally) passing them through court.
Of course the other possible reason is that it's a win win scenario, if the law gets repealed they can make their campaign around bringing it back up (and even if not they can constantly use this as a cudgel of why you must vote blue) while enshrining it means that the subject is not useful anymore.
 
Swingletonthesimpleton dijo:
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Oh PLEASE do succeed, and then get into a war with so we can finally wipe that shithole of a city that serves no purpose besides breeding faggotry off the face of the planet. And replace it with something that actually makes money. Maybe make it an addition to vegas. An entire state full of gambling, drinking, and 20 million other ways to lose your rent.

AMERICA
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Also if we need Cali why do so many Californians actually flee from their dream state? I wonder...
 
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