Opinion Republicans Are Winning the Debate on Voter ID - Big Thunk: The People Screaming for Vax Passports Also Oppose Voter ID

Republicans themselves don’t all realize it, but they’re winning the political debate over voting laws.

It’s not just that Republicans are pushing through the laws they favor in multiple states while Democrats in Washington have not been able to enact anything. That difference is mostly a result of the Senate’s 50-50 tie and the filibuster. What’s worse for the Democrats, their attack on Republicans as “vote suppressors” who are instituting a “new Jim Crow” does not seem to be inflicting any political damage.

Republicans aren’t on the defensive on the issue. They feel entirely comfortable defending their position. They have some polling to back them up. And they have forced their critics to make concessions.

The first major political battle over voting laws came in the swing state of Georgia this spring, and it set the tone for the nationwide debate. So it was all the more helpful for Republicans that the opponents of their election changes made critical mistakes.
President Joe Biden helped bring the Georgia Republicans’ new law to national attention by denouncing it. But he also endorsed taking the All-Star game from Atlanta, which predictably went over poorly in the state.

Biden also made easily checked errors, like denouncing an “outrageous” provision to shorten voting hours that didn’t actually exist. And he likened the law to Jim Crow. This rhetorical tack helped to harden Georgia Republicans’ resolve and gave them an easy response to criticism: It was hysterical and ignorant. They pointed out, as well, that many provisions of the law were comparable to, and sometimes even more voter-friendly than, the laws of many heavily Democratic states.

One of the key questions in the debate has been whether voters should have to show photo identification. Democratic politicians and activists hate the idea, but most voters favor it.

In June, Monmouth found that 82% of the public back photo ID for voters. That supermajority included 62% of Democratic voters. Hard as it is for many Democratic activists to believe, nonwhites backed it a bit more than Whites did.

The Democrats’ marquee voting-rights bill imposes a national ban on photo-ID requirements for federal elections. It’s an overreach that Republicans can cheerfully oppose — all the more so because they can now point to evidence that such requirements do not reduce voter turnout at all.

Democrats once saw political opportunity in the outrage that the Georgia law inspired. But as their argument against the specific provisions of the legislation collapsed, they had to shift to denouncing the Republicans’ motives. They also had to backpedal on voter identification.

They didn’t always do it gracefully, either. Representative James Clyburn of South Carolina, the third-ranking House Democrat, said in July that “no Democrat has ever been against voter ID.” In October 2020, he had called it “voter suppression.” Democratic Senator Raphael Warnock of Georgia attempted the same maneuver.

A “corporate backlash” against Republicans over voting laws got a lot of attention this spring. In previous political controversies, corporate opposition to conservative initiatives has convinced Republicans to back down. As governor of Indiana in 2015, for example, Mike Pence bowed to corporate pressure to weaken a religious-liberty law he had just signed.

But this time the effort fizzled. When hundreds of corporations banded together to issue a statement of support for the right to vote, it ended up being so vague that practically any Georgia Republican could agree with it. (“Voting is the lifeblood of our democracy…”) Georgia-based Coca-Cola sharply criticized the law, but then sounded conciliatory notes after conservatives pushed back.

Brian Kemp, the Republican governor who signed Georgia’s law, is holding up in the polls. In August, he had a higher net approval rating than Biden or either of the state’s Democratic senators.

Majority leader Charles Schumer says he will be bringing another version of voting legislation before the Senate soon. It’s not an effort he can possibly expect will change the law, since there aren’t enough votes to protect it from a filibuster.

What’s still undetermined is how much Democrats will seek to call attention to the issue. If they instead just go through the motions to tell their activists they’re trying, it will be because they, too, can see that this is a debate they’re losing.

 
Yeah, it shouldn't be a debate at all, because it's a rudimentary election safeguard in any semi-functioning democracy. Canada, Mexico, and pretty much all of Western Europe has Voter ID.

Few things make Democrats shriek bloody murder and start biting their cyanide capsules like the slightest touch of scrutiny.
 
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I say we compromise and have vax passports AND strict voter ID laws for federal elections in every state. That’s a compromise position certain to piss off the most people (and hopefully create the most lolz).

Might as well laugh as our country continues to go like the late Roman Empire…
 
The Dems took the piss in 2020 with the mass mail in voting and the ballot harvesting. Less people would care had they not pulled those stunts.
 
Yeah, it shouldn't be a debate at all, because it's a rudimentary election safeguard in any semi-functioning democracy. Canada, Mexico, and pretty much all of Western Europe has Voter ID.

Few things make Democrats shriek bloody murder and start biting their cyanide capsules like the slightest touch of scrutiny.
To me this screams of Democrats vehemently opposing a relatively milquetoast conservative position just to be reactionary and combative, completely ignoring what even their own voting base supports. If even stuff as agreeable as voter ID doesn't have bipartisan support then I fear for future generations.
 
What’s worse for the Democrats, their attack on Republicans as “vote suppressors” who are instituting a “new Jim Crow” does not seem to be inflicting any political damage.

This shill is really amazed no one is buying their race baiting anymore.

First, it is not Jim Crow 2.0. Second, being that you spent a couple years shy of a decade smearing everyone right of Marx a racist-Nazi-homophobic-transphobic-xenophobic-sciencephobic-monster are you really shocked that it is no longer effective given that trust in the media ranks somewhere below the devil?

Majority leader Charles Schumer says he will be bringing another version of voting legislation before the Senate soon. It’s not an effort he can possibly expect will change the law, since there aren’t enough votes to protect it from a filibuster.
He can bring it as many times as he wants and eventually it might even pass and then states will sue and SCOTUS will have to take up the case as there is actual standing when the Federal government tries to push states out of the way and federalize elections which is just the DNC taking a steaming shit on The Constitution and Republic to further their goals of burning the country down in pursuit of their unattainable Utopia. Unless SCOTUS has been packed with communists they will rule against the federal law and tell them to go back and amend The Constitution.

I am so fucking fed up with the same wrinkled shit bags shambling up to the podium over and over and over and over again to try to pass their tyrannical laws that no one would actually support if they read the whole things but of course we so rarely get to read them due to that very fact.

Fuck Schumer. I will seriously crack a bottle when he shuffles off his mortal coil.
 
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To me this screams of Democrats vehemently opposing a relatively milquetoast conservative position just to be reactionary and combative, completely ignoring what even their own voting base supports. If even stuff as agreeable as voter ID doesn't have bipartisan support then I fear for future generations.
In June, Monmouth found that 82% of the public back photo ID for voters. That supermajority included 62% of Democratic voters. Hard as it is for many Democratic activists to believe, nonwhites backed it a bit more than Whites did.
That's the point of the article. It does, actually, and the Democrat politicians are in direct opposition to their base on this. Hence the current bout of pants-shitting from the pols.
 
To me this screams of Democrats vehemently opposing a relatively milquetoast conservative position just to be reactionary and combative, completely ignoring what even their own voting base supports. If even stuff as agreeable as voter ID doesn't have bipartisan support then I fear for future generations.
Why would it have bipartisan support? Politics nowadays is the equivalent of team sports for the fat autistic kids that got picked last in team sports.
Democrat voters realize that the people that would be unable to vote if voter ID was introduced (illegal immigrants) overwhelmingly vote Democrat, so they'll naturally bullshit an excuse as to why we should never institute voter ID. Plus, they can make the excuse something that'll get them asspats on twitter for "fighting racism". Both sides of the spectrum will support retarded bullshit so long as they think it'll ensure that their flavour of the Uniparty is the one that gets to be in charge for a few years.
 
This shill is really amazed no one is buying their race baiting anymore.

First, it is not Jim Crow 2.0. Second, being that you spent a couple years shy of a decade smearing everyone right of Marx a racist-Nazi-homophobic-transphobic-xenophobic-sciencephobic-monster are you really shocked that it is no longer effective given that trust in the media ranks somewhere below the devil?


He can bring it as many times as he wants and eventually it might even pass and then states will sue and SCOTUS will have to take up the case as there is actual standing when the Federal government tries to push states out of the way and federalize elections which is just the DNC is doing by taking a steaming shit on The Constitution and Republic to further their goals of burning the country down in pursuit of their unattainable Utopia. Unless SCOTUS has been packed with communists they will rule against the federal law and tell them to go back and amend The Constitution.

I am so fucking fed up with the same wrinkled shit bags shambling up to the podium over and over and over and over again to try to pass their tyrannical laws that no one would actually support if they read the whole things but of course we so rarely get to read them due to that very fact.

Fuck Schumer. I will seriously crack a bottle when he shuffles off his mortal coil.
The federal Congress has full authority under the constitution to tell the States to fuck off and conduct federal elections the way the federal Congress dictates, unfortunately

That's why Manchin/Sinema holding the line on the filibuster is critical. If the Democrats get to 50 votes in the Senate to get rid of the filibuster, it's over
 
The only reason to oppose it is if you want to cheat.

So I have no idea why the Democrats are opposed to it and, quite frankly, it would be in bad taste to speculate.
 
Why would it have bipartisan support? Politics nowadays is the equivalent of team sports for the fat autistic kids that got picked last in team sports.
Democrat voters realize that the people that would be unable to vote if voter ID was introduced (illegal immigrants) overwhelmingly vote Democrat, so they'll naturally bullshit an excuse as to why we should never institute voter ID. Plus, they can make the excuse something that'll get them asspats on twitter for "fighting racism". Both sides of the spectrum will support exceptional bullshit so long as they think it'll ensure that their flavour of the Uniparty is the one that gets to be in charge for a few years.
It's kind of hard for anyone to oppose voter ID when you're also demanding a vax passport to eat, shop and work.
 
I say we compromise and have vax passports AND strict voter ID laws for federal elections in every state. That’s a compromise position certain to piss off the most people (and hopefully create the most lolz).
It’d be a good way you counter it imo. Sure I’ll get the vax passport but we’ll also have to do voter Id.
 
Even for voting by mail in the Canadian election last month, I had to provide two pieces of ID online just for them to be able to mail me my ballot. As long as the ballot itself remains anonymous (there were several layers of envelopes for the Canadian elections, the innermost of which had no identification), I really don't see what the fuss is about with voter ID (beyond making it harder for elections to be rigged).
 
To me this screams of Democrats vehemently opposing a relatively milquetoast conservative position just to be reactionary and combative, completely ignoring what even their own voting base supports. If even stuff as agreeable as voter ID doesn't have bipartisan support then I fear for future generations.
"See, black people are too retarded to get IDs but still somehow smart enough to vote."
 
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