War Red states are building a nation within a nation - Because you won't let us fucking leave


It was a revealing sign of the times when the Supreme Court last week, in response to a lawsuit from the Republican state attorneys general in Texas and Louisiana, blocked President Joe Biden’s administration from changing a key element of federal immigration policy.

The case was just the latest example of how red states, supported by Republican-appointed judges, are engaging in a multi-front offensive to seize control of national policy even while Democrats hold the White House and nominally control both the House and Senate. The red states are moving social policy sharply to the right within their borders on issues from abortion to LGBTQ rights and classroom censorship, while simultaneously working to hobble the ability of either the federal government or their own largest metro areas to set a different course.

To a degree unimaginable even a decade ago, this broad offensive increasingly looks like an effort to define a nation within a nation – one operating with a set of rules and policies that diverge from the rest of America more than in almost any previous era.

“The only time I can recall in American history even remotely like this [divergence] was after the Civil War when the separate but equal doctrine began to emerge” across the South as a backlash against the attempts of the 13th, 14th and 15th Constitutional amendments to ensure equality for the freed slaves, says Donald Kettl, the former dean of the public policy school at the University of Maryland and author of the book, “The Divided States of America.” He added, “It’s a multifront war with very sharp swords.”

The elements of the red state offensive include a flurry of lawsuits seeking to block actions from Biden’s administration on issues from the environment to civil rights to immigration; other lawsuits, such as the case around a Mississippi law that prompted the Supreme Court to overturn the right to abortion, aimed at providing states more leeway to deviate from previously nationally guaranteed rights; a flurry of red state laws that advance the cultural priorities of the GOP’s predominantly White Christian electoral base; and a steady flow of red state statutes blocking Democratic-leaning large cities and counties from setting their own policies on everything from police budgets to recycling.

The willingness of so many red states to adopt these common approaches testifies in part to the energetic organizing efforts of many conservative groups, from Heritage Action and the American Legislative Exchange Council to the Republican Attorneys General Association. But even more profoundly, the alignment of so many red states behind this shared agenda and strategy underscores how many of them are being shaped by a common set of economic and demographic trends.

On everything from gun ownership and religious affiliation to reliance on fossil fuels and participation (or not) in the 21st century information economy, most red states are following similar tracks, while diverging more sharply from the experience in blue states. Broadly speaking, blue states are more heavily exposed to the big demographic, cultural and economic forces reshaping American life, while red states are less exposed, and to the extent they are, those changes are centered overwhelmingly on their large metropolitan areas, which are trending Democratic and often – like in Austin or Atlanta – are a target for the Republicans controlling state government.

“It’s not at the level of Jim Crow, or certainly the difference between slave states and free states, but the differences are major,” says Jake Grumbach, a University of Washington political scientist who studies divergence among the states. And like Kettl, Grumbach believes the economic and political differences between the red and blue states are on track to only widen.

For Democrats, the red state offensive has been a source of rising alarm. The fact that the red states have succeeded in shifting policy toward the right on so many fronts has spurred widespread frustration within the party, as exemplified by California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s frequent calls for a more forceful response.

Yet the real threat in the red state effort to set their own course may be less an advantage for one side or another than a challenge to the nation’s underlying cohesion. As red states grow more aggressive about going their own way, while working to preempt challenges from above (the federal government) or below (blue local governments), they are testing how much divergence the nation’s fundamental cohesion can take before it begins to unravel.

“You have a very dangerous situation,” said David Leopold, a former president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association and legal adviser to the immigration advocacy group America’s Voice. “This is a direct threat to the nation as a unified entity. This is one step closer to the country dividing into two separate countries.”

Neither all red, nor all blue, states are carbon copies of each other. Significant differences remain within each bloc (and between urban and rural areas within each state).

One way to define the red states is to examine the 25 that voted for Donald Trump in both the 2016 and 2020 elections. At a time when the foreign-born share of the total US population is nearing its all-time high, 19 of the Trump states rank among the bottom 25 states in the share of their population composed of immigrants. While the overall share of college graduates is also rising, 20 of these states also rank in the bottom 25 for the share of their population that holds at least a four-year college degree, the Census Bureau found. The vast majority of Trump states, by contrast, fall into the top half when states are ranked by the share of their population that are White Christians or who own guns.

In their economic structure as well, the red states, as a group, are much more rooted in the powerhouse industries of the 20th century than their blue counterparts, and less represented in the information-age industries generating the greatest economic output in the 21st century. Of the states Trump won, 23 rank in the top 26 states that emit the most carbon from their energy sector for each dollar of economic output, according to the federal Energy Information Administration. As I’ve written before, that’s a revealing metric of the states that are most heavily integrated in the existing fossil fuel economy, either as producers or big consumers of coal, oil and natural gas.

By contrast, 18 of the Trump states rank in the bottom half for the share of the workforce employed in technology jobs, according to data provided to me by Brookings Metro, a center-left thinktank.

The red states have some clear economic strengths. Housing costs and taxes are generally lower in them, which has helped some of them add population at a rapid rate. But with these high-wage, high-value information-age jobs concentrating more in blue states, a substantial gap has opened between the two regions in economic output and wages. Only three smaller red states with large energy extraction industries (Alaska, North Dakota and Wyoming) have median wages that equal the average across all of the blue states, according to calculations by Grumbach and two co-authors in a chapter of the recent book, “The American Political Economy.”
Michael Podhorzer, chair of the Analyst Institute, a collaborative of progressive groups that studies elections, recently quantified the economic gap between the two sections in another way. He used a slightly different definition of red and blue states (based on both presidential voting and which party controls state government) whose main impact was to remove seven states into a third purple group: Trump-won North Carolina and six captured by Biden. Looking at the remaining states, Podhorzer calculated that the gross domestic product per person and the median household income are now both more than 25% greater in the blue section than in the red.

To a somewhat remarkable extent, the two major sections are divided as well in the basic structure of where people live – with the blue states revolving much more around big metropolitan centers. Using a classification system that divides communities into six categories from most to least urban, Podhorzer calculated that over three-fifths of residents in the blue states live in the two most dense categories (core urban counties and inner suburbs) while less than one-third live in the least urban categories. Red states are almost the mirror image: almost three-in-five residents live in the three least urban categories, while slightly less than one-in-three reside in the two most urban groupings.

Those population findings put an exclamation point on the underlying economic divergence. The most urban counties are the most Democratic-leaning parts of the red states – places like Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Phoenix and their inner suburbs. Conversely, the least urban places are the most Republican-leaning parts of the blue states. If you subtract each of those outlying areas from their section’s total economic output – that is, remove the most urban places from the red total and the most rural places from the blue – the gap between them in total economic output widens even further: with those counties removed from each side, the blue section’s contribution to the total US gross national product is an astonishing 75% bigger than the red section’s.

To a far greater extent than in earlier generations, control of state government now aligns with states’ preferences in presidential elections. Republicans now control both chambers of the state legislature in all of the 25 states that voted two times for Trump except for Nebraska, which has a unicameral nonpartisan legislature. Republicans also control the governorship in 21 of the two-time Trump states, all but Louisiana, Kansas, Kentucky and North Carolina.
With this preponderant political control, Republicans in these states have been at the forefront of efforts to roll back what legal scholars have called the “rights revolution” of the past six decades in which the Supreme Court and Congress have nationalized a wide array of rights – from abortion to contraception and same-sex marriage – and constrained the ability of states to impinge on those rights.

Of the 25 states that voted for Trump, 19 have already moved to restrict abortion access since the Supreme Court last month struck down Roe v. Wade, according to the Guttmacher Institute, an abortion rights thinktank that tracks state policy. Four other two-time Trump states are considered likely to also restrict abortion in the coming months, with Indiana beginning a special session on Monday that could pass new limits and Kansas voters deciding next week on a constitutional amendment that could open the door to future restrictions. The only Trump states where abortion rights do not appear in imminent jeopardy are North Carolina (where Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper has vetoed anti-abortion legislation) and Alaska.

Similarly, 18 of the Trump states have passed laws preventing transgender girls from competing on girls’ school sports teams, with several also moving against parents who authorize gender-affirming care for their minor children. Most of these same states have passed laws since 2021 restricting how public school teachers can discuss issues of race, gender or sexual orientation, such as Florida’s “don’t say gay” bill. And several on the list have simultaneously passed laws making it easier for critics to ban books from school libraries. These states also dominate the list of jurisdictions that have passed legislation making it more difficult to vote in response to Trump’s false claims of fraud in the 2020 election.

“Right wing culture wars are now taking on even more significance because the Supreme Court has tossed what were once protected constitutional rights into the political battlefield,” Cooper, who chairs the Democratic Governors Association, told me in an interview. “A zip code should not determine a woman’s reproductive rights, but that’s where we are right now.”

As I’ve written, red states over the past decade have increasingly preempted the authority of blue-trending local governments across a dizzying array of issues – everything from environmental rules to police budgets to masking or lockdown rules issued in response to the Covid-19 pandemic. Conservative Republicans in the Texas state legislature have announced they intend to introduce legislation next year that would authorize district attorneys from any county to prosecute violations of the state’s abortion ban – a means of circumventing officials in large blue counties who have indicated they would not prioritize such enforcement.

Simultaneously red states are aggressively using the courts to either overturn national rights or to block action from the federal government across a wide array of issues. Sixteen of the Trump states filed briefs supporting Mississippi in the lawsuit that led to the Supreme Court majority overturning Roe v. Wade. Eighteen of these states have joined a lawsuit seeking to block the Biden administration’s regulations extending to transgender students the educational civil rights protections established under Title IX. The Biden administration’s efforts to combat climate change have been another frequent target of lawsuits from various combinations of the same red states.

The rulings constraining Biden on immigration may encapsulate most precisely how the alliance of red states and GOP-appointed judges are interacting to constrict federal action.
Various combinations of these states, usually led by Texas, have launched multiple federal lawsuits designed to prevent Biden from reversing hardline immigration policies set by Trump. That included the case in which the Supreme Court last week let stand a district court ruling from a Trump-appointed judge that is preventing the Biden administration from setting immigration enforcement priorities different from those Trump established. Last year, Andrew Hanen, a conservative district court judge appointed by George W. Bush, in response to a suit brought by nine red states, issued an injunction blocking the Biden administration from accepting new applications under the program that provides legal protection to young people brought to the US illegally by their parents.

Leopold, the former president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association, notes that these immigration cases have followed a similar trajectory. The red states, led by Texas, find a sympathetic district court judge, usually based in Texas, to target for the first hearing, which ensures that the case rises into the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, perhaps the country’s most conservative, and then from there reaches the Supreme Court, which is now dominated by six GOP-appointed justices. Leopold calls this the “anti-immigrant judicial pipeline” and says it has become a template for blocking federal action far beyond issues of migration.

“These are attacks on specific policy choices that have traditionally been assigned to the executive … that are preventing Biden from effectively doing his job,” Leopold said. “What they have done is with the Trump years behind them, and with a deeper [roster] on the bench, they have completely used this politicized [Supreme] Court to make federal policy and to thwart the specific policy objectives of the Biden administration. Forget that 81 million people voted for him, this is about using the court as a political tool. And they have perfected the strategy.”

Seen as a whole, the red states’ drive to set their own rules, while blocking any interference from either blue-leaning local governments or a Democratic-controlled federal government, represents the broadest effort to carve out a separate sphere of influence since the fierce resistance to reconstruction across the South after the Civil War that ultimately led to Jim Crow segregation, Kettl believes. In some respects, he argues, red states are displaying a greater separatist impulse today than the South did then.

“The late 19th century had a focus on separate but equal doctrine, and it had to do with a fundamental question of social policy,” Kettl told me. “This is an effort on a far broader collection of fronts – immigration, abortion, health care, the governance of schools, the issues of transportation policy. One after another. It’s on a far broader front than was ever the case in the late 19th century.”

For now, Kettl sees the initial red state Republican goal primarily as consolidating these new rules and blocking any interference – what he calls “an effort to build very high castle walls with a very deep moat.” But like Grumbach and other experts on state policy, Kettl is dubious that Republicans will settle for imposing their values solely on the states now under their control. As the red states pursue a more consistent and coordinated course, Kettl predicts that Republicans will “try to impose [this] policy on the nation as a whole” if they achieve the federal power to do so.

Blue states such as California, New York, Illinois and Colorado have moved forcefully over the past two years to expand many of the liberties now under siege in the red states. But congressional Republicans while in the minority have already introduced proposals that would apply the red state rules across the entire nation on many of these same issues. The new social order red states are now sketching behind their “castle” walls may offer the best preview of what Republicans will try to impose on all states the next time they achieve unified control of the White House and Congress in Washington.

Wow, it's almost like we are a federal republic where states and local communities are allowed to decide how to run state and local affairs, as opposed to Bughive hegemony.
 
It's not them you have to be worried about. It's the cops they'll send to arrest you, and the Soros-anointed prosecutors who will railroad you in a show trial.
Meh. That shit will stop once enough people start shooting back. You can only rally the local SWAT goons so many times before they realize they'll be taking fire every time they approach a house.

There's an increasing number of people reaching the conclusion that even though they stand no chance against an overwhelming show of force by a determined hostile government, taking at least a couple of the assholes with them when they go down is still an acceptable "win." They're not really wrong, either. They'll run out of goons before we run out of guns.
 
TL;DR: Leftoid can't comprehend a country that dwarfs Europe has a significant population of people that don't want to live the same way they do.
 
They're opposed to the people you mentioned in the end of your sentence owning guns. Their own armed security team is A-OK though.
Very few people can afford their own security detail, though. Private guards stop being relevant as soon as the shit really hits the fan (as this article seems to be implying) and then all you're left with are starving hordes of trannies and soylords.
 
"a flurry of red state laws that advance the cultural priorities of the GOP’s predominantly White Christian electoral base;"

I was going to read the article until I saw it was by fag-enabling, nigger-loving Clinton News Network, then I just ignored it because CNN is blatant DNC agitprop that has absolutely zero journalistic credibility anymore.

a few things I have to say about this statement though:

1. Whites are the majority in this country. If niggers and spics don't like it, they're free to fucking leave. Go live in some shithole like Mexico or the Coongo. Either assimilate to the majority culture in America or get the fuck out already. We'll gladly keep the blacks and latinos that want to live and work amongst us like non-parasitic, normal Americans. These are known by democrats as "unkka tomz" whereas everyone else just calls them "normal people".

2. I am not a Christian, but I've noticed that fag-enablers always have to bring up Christianity, tie it to "whiteness" (whatever the fuck that means) and then put some stank on it. I don't understand what it is that they hate about Christianity so much, but I assume that it's the faith's prohibitions against sodomy and other faggot degeneracy, since the agenda of these types is always full-anal with children's cocks being chopped off and their bodies pumped full of opposite sex hormones for "social justice". They seem to have a slobbering love affair with Islam for some reason (probably because the majority of Muslims are shitskins) but this makes absolutely zero sense since Islam takes a stronger stance against faggots (sanctions their killing for the good of civilization) and uppity women than Christianity does. So I'm not sure what the end game is here for shitlibs, but it lets me know that they have never read the Quran or any of the Hadith. While I am not a Muslim either (I don't do organized religion at all, details if you care later on), I at least respect Islam for hating fags, controlling women, and being willing to kill it's ideological enemies. Matter of fact, the entire reason I am not a Muslim is because you aren't allowed to listen to music if you adhere to Islam and music is essentially my religion.
 
At a time when the foreign-born share of the total US population is nearing its all-time high, 19 of the Trump states rank among the bottom 25 states in the share of their population composed of immigrants

Why would we give a single fuck about the opinions of the foreign born? I swear, voting rights need to vest after like the third generation or something, or better yet kick all the foreigners and their spawn out. Absolutely ridiculous.
 
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Meh. That shit will stop once enough people start shooting back. You can only rally the local SWAT goons so many times before they realize they'll be taking fire every time they approach a house.

There's an increasing number of people reaching the conclusion that even though they stand no chance against an overwhelming show of force by a determined hostile government, taking at least a couple of the assholes with them when they go down is still an acceptable "win." They're not really wrong, either. They'll run out of goons before we run out of guns.
This is literally one of the best quotes from Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”"

If you gonna go down make sure to take some goons with you.
 
Meh. That shit will stop once enough people start shooting back. You can only rally the local SWAT goons so many times before they realize they'll be taking fire every time they approach a house.

There's an increasing number of people reaching the conclusion that even though they stand no chance against an overwhelming show of force by a determined hostile government, taking at least a couple of the assholes with them when they go down is still an acceptable "win." They're not really wrong, either. They'll run out of goons before we run out of guns.
And when that happens you'll get drone and missile strikes.
All in the name of "peace".
If you don't think they will/would murder entire towns and get away with it, think again.
 
then all you're left with are starving hordes of trannies and soylords.
And I'll further force them to starve when I point a sub2000 in their face and take what little food, water, and gasoline they have left and give it to the normal people in my community.

NOTE: I do not currently own a sub2000. Mine was confiscated from me through lawfare because I said I was going to use it against figger-naggot Antifa/BLM rioters if they came to my town. Apparently the woke state level pigs had a problem with this statement, so they charged me with a felony and took my gun. Weird, because I thought that they of all people would support this kind of direct action against the problem elements of society, so I guess I was wrong and that they are all actually Soros-cucks who want to watch the US become a turd-world nation where niggers and purple haired "identifying as queer" faggots are allowed to run wild and harm hard working people who are just trying to provide and raise families.

However that does not mean that I am not going to obtain a gun again in the case of law enforcement and social order breaking down, and it becoming "every man for himself". When the woke state pigs no longer have the ability to enforce the law, that's when I will get my hands on a weapon again. I'll have absolutely no choice at that point, and I will likely "die by the sword", but I will do my absolute god damnedest to guide my community and the good people in it through a complete collapse while I can. For every nigger and faggot in my community, there are two good people (Black, white, it doesn't fucking matter) just trying to live and it's them that I care about rather than uppity, hate-filled niggers and lisping, entitled starbucks swilling faggots who live to consoom produkt.

America is basically the CCCP at this point, even Noam Chomsky has said that we have worse censorship now than the Soviets did forty fucking years ago. We're facing a complete collapse of society because of the incompetence and general malice of the political elites, and I'm not going to see hard working people in my town selling their personal property to buy bread. I will take it by force and distribute it to them when that day comes, because my greatest fear is this country turning into as fucked up of an oligarchy as Russia is and American people having to deal with the same sort of hypercapitalist abusive shit that the Russians went through in the 90s.
I am not a violent person. I have never shot or killed anyone and I don't actually want to, but when SHTF & law enforcement stops being a thing because of govt and social collapse, I will have no choice but to use force to protect and provide for my community and the innocent people in it. People who never asked for this sort of shit. Construction workers, McDonald's employees, hell even ex-cops who were just trying to do the right thing. This place will remain a redoubt of freedom as globohomo fascism attempts to take hold and I will likely die in the process of resistance, but it's a death that I am fine with because it's for the right reasons.

It's the one good thing I'll be able to do for others after living the first half of my life like a complete piece of self-interested shit.
 
Meh. That shit will stop once enough people start shooting back. You can only rally the local SWAT goons so many times before they realize they'll be taking fire every time they approach a house.

There's an increasing number of people reaching the conclusion that even though they stand no chance against an overwhelming show of force by a determined hostile government, taking at least a couple of the assholes with them when they go down is still an acceptable "win." They're not really wrong, either. They'll run out of goons before we run out of guns.
maybe one day we’ll get another Battle of Athens but that only happened because a lot of people went to war and came home to see things drastically different while the people living there acclimated to the new normal and were buck broken into mentally not wanting to fight back going down the cuckservative route expecting the law to fix everything despite the “law” and its enforcers actively being used against them
 
And when that happens you'll get drone and missile strikes.
All in the name of "peace".
If you don't think they will/would murder entire towns and get away with it, think again.
I don't think so. Hear me out.

The elite are not willing to destroy their own property/infrastructure and it doesn't really matter how many missiles and drones they have if there are millions or potentially billions of normal human beings rising up against them. Furthermore, I think that all but the most hardcore brainwashed "true believers" of the goons themselves would do the right thing and join with the normal people, because that's what happened in the Russian revolution and America, for as backward as it is, is less backward than the Russian Empire.

The thing that goons don't tell you, is that for every one of them, there are 5000 normal everyday people who just want to eat. I think most current goons understand this and would side with the cause of good in that case, but you have to also remember that these goons are also just people who want to eat and have their fambly just like the rest of us, so if & when shit really starts to hit the fan, I think that the majority of them will join the cause of good and normalcy.

Look at what happened in communist Romania in 1989. Ceausescu was shot by his own military personnel. If you don't think that once things get that bad over here that our military and police forces wouldn't do the same shit, you're highly overestimating the average goon's ability to care about the cause of the leadership.

I don't believe that the majority of police, state level law enforcement, or military would make strikes on the average population but it would have to be a cause of like hundreds of millions of people rather than just isolated Turner Diaries style revolutionaries.
 
maybe one day we’ll get another Battle of Athens but that only happened because a lot of people went to war and came home to see things drastically different while the people living there acclimated to the new normal and were buck broken into mentally not wanting to fight back going down the cuckservative route expecting the law to fix everything despite the “law” and its enforcers actively being used against them
Fighting against the state is (fittingly) a Rubicon-crossing moment - people are extraordinarily hesitant about it because you have to be 100% committed once that first shot is fired, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.
 
I had questions about letting cross dressing old men watch children. And I had questions about where the money was going with regards to Black Lives Matter. And I didn't like the idea of teaching youths that they were full of original sin and that they needed to repent by harming themselves and their opportunities.

So I was told in no uncertain terms to "fuck off, bigot", so I did. But now I'm being told I can't do that either.

I'm confused. awwwoooooOoooOOooOooOooo??
 
Brownstein writes, "Blue states such as California, New York, Illinois and Colorado have moved forcefully over the past two years to expand many of the liberties now under siege in the red states."

Except the 'liberties and rights' to which Brownstein refers throughout the article aren't liberties at all. The federally mandated 'right' to an abortion up to and including the 9th month moment of birth? Abortion should've always been a matter for the states to decide. The 'liberty' to sexually groom children, to indoctrinate them in neo-Marxist dogma? The 'right' to enter our country illegally and claim citizenship? A nation without defined, defensible borders isn't a nation--not for long, anyway.

But yes, he's right, the divide grows wider. Such diametrically opposed political ideologies and philosophical worldviews cannot peacefully coexist indefinitely. At some point, that tension will ratchet up to unsustainable levels and something bad will happen, whether sparked by a triggering event--think John Brown's execution or the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand--or a more gradual escalation, one thing after another after another, but whatever happens will almost certainly mean war or an escalating cycle of mass unrest and violence so close to war as to be indistinguishable from it.

The November midterm elections are coming up. The polls show a wipeout for the Left, which also has to deal with a senile president who thinks he's running for reelection in 2024. Safe to say the oligarchs pulling Biden's strings are feeling a bit desperate right about now, which means to keep their power they might do something drastic, something dangerous. What they might do is anyone's guess, but I'm guessing whatever it is will also be incredibly stupid.
 
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