Racism

[Marvin]

I seriously don't understand how anyone of voting age could even function in society without an ID. Don't you need an ID to get a job, or unemployment, or welfare, or food stamps, or to rent an apartment, or to open a bank account? You can't even buy cold medicine without an ID. If it's difficult for some people to acquire an ID shouldn't we be trying to help them get IDs? It sounds to me like people who don't have IDs probably have much bigger problems than not being able to vote.

I don't think identification is that important. It never was for me, at least. I've never needed ID to rent an apartment or to get a job.

They think about the exact influence voting regulation and laws like this have on elections and model it to the tenth of the percent and finer with detailed maps and software specifically for doing it, preferring laws that favor their electoral success. This isn't a secret. There have been numerous studies on the exact impact these laws have and why they disproportionately favor Republicans.

When they deliberately close voting places on weekends when those are overwhelmingly used by people who have actual jobs, it's hard to say it's some completely innocent event when this just happens to favor the election of the people passing the law.

Unless the law is specifically intended to disenfranchise, it's generally legal. A party is allowed to pass legislation that favors its electoral success.

Ah, nevermind then. Though if I understand you correctly, you're saying they're crafting laws to benefit their politics, not specifically for racist motivations. Disenfranchising minorities just because of racism, with no other concrete benefit, sounds kind of far fetched. That's more of the conspiracy theory thing I was talking about.

 

[AnOminous]

I don't think identification is that important. It never was for me, at least. I've never needed ID to rent an apartment or to get a job.

Ah, nevermind then. Though if I understand you correctly, you're saying they're crafting laws to benefit their politics, not specifically for racist motivations. Disenfranchising minorities just because of racism, with no other concrete benefit, sounds kind of far fetched. That's more of the conspiracy theory thing I was talking about.

You're rarely going to see facially discriminatory laws (that is laws that by their explicit language target minorities). They're just so clearly unconstitutional that it's very infrequent even the dumbest jurisdiction will pass them. Being aware of a disparate impact on a minority and choosing to pass a law for political advantage regardless, though, generally will pass muster.

 

[Joan Nyan]

I don't think identification is that important. It never was for me, at least. I've never needed ID to rent an apartment or to get a job.

Alright, I suppose it might be based more on where you live. I could believe that IDs aren't as necessary in places where they're harder to get. Still, I think helping poor people or minorities easily get identification would be a greater help than making it so you don't need ID to vote. Even if you don't need it for a job or apartment, being able to buy Sudafed is nice.

 

[Morose_Obesity]

Older news: Decently fuckable racist chick here: http://heavy.com/news/2016/10/jessi...hotos-mugshot/comment-page-1/#comment-5077488

 

[ES 148]

And her supposed attractiveness is relevant how?

 

[Potatomongrel]

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This bitch looks like a zombie what are you on?

 

[Terrorist]

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This bitch looks like a zombie what are you on?

she's prob one of those people who have only muh 23andme results to be proud of

and regarding racism i tend to agree with chevy chase, in that people who define themselves by their ancestry are like potatoes; the best parts of them are underground. there's definitely a race gap in iq, but iq doesn't necessarily determine merit. what have whites used those extra points for lately, other than rationalizing increasingly depraved fetishes? i'd take a black preacher over a silicon valley bugman any day.

multiculturalism is a failure and segregation would be better for all of us, but race isn't everything. you can gloat about having 5 extra iq points all you want, but know that being white doesn't automatically make you a decent person.

of course i'm just a dago shitskin mongrel so what do i know

 

[Morose_Obesity]

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This bitch looks like a zombie what are you on?

If you were surrounded by obese mexican trash everyday like I am you'd see this chick as being 10/10


Besides it's not her face, pretty bangin' bod there

 

[Action Man]

Humans are naturally tribalistic, there is absolutely nothing wrong with preferring to stay with people in your own group. The concept of racism to begin with is frankly just a product of political correctness trying to create problems within a perfectly functional system.

 

[friedshrimp]

I think racism is really a part of almost every race/nationality, ethnicity and culture. Anyone who thinks only europeans/americans are racist have clearly never been to Asia or South America and noticed the racism displayed by noble Pea Oh Ceas against native blacks there.

 

[Florence]

I think racism is really a part of almost every race/nationality, ethnicity and culture. Anyone who thinks only europeans/americans are racist have clearly never been to Asia or South America and noticed the racism displayed by noble Pea Oh Ceas against native blacks there.

Heck, look at Mugabe. He's definitely a racist. I'd argue that there's probably more discrimination based on caste or even grouping in Africa and Asia than there is racism (though the latter is still definitely present); just look at what happened in Rwanda.

 

[2al]

BTW, there's this debate on another forum about whether racism against blacks or reverse racism is the bigger issue today. I'm not gonna join in because that forum is filled with normie liberals, so I'm probably gonna get curbstomped anyway, and I'm a person who tends to thrive in hugboxes, but I'm curious anyway, and I want to have rebuttals in my head even though I'm not gonna join in, so here it goes: one guy poured his heart out about his experiences with reverse racism, and one guy was all, "Um, you're thinking like an alt-righter. Racism against blacks is still the bigger issue." (To be fair, the one guy who was talking about reverse racism did have this pretty dumb statement about how being patted down because you're black is not really oppression. It may not be "being kicked out of a school or establishment because you're black" tier oppression, but it is still oppression because it is not fair, and anybody could turn out to be a criminal anyway, so if you're working in security, you better treat everyone like they may or may not be criminals instead of treating certain people as if they're guilty before proven innocent.) Also, some guy who was just a neutral observer chipped in with a question about if even white people living in trailer parks are more privileged than black people, and this one guy (who is the most ardent debater in that forum. He's a liberal who has actually done lots of research, and no offense to him because we're actually friends, but I'm kinda surprised that he hasn't changed his mind after following politics since I dunno, the late '00s? I used to be like him, but I'm not like him anymore), he was like, "At least white people from trailer parks usually get the help they need with drug addiction and they're still less likely to go to prison." As a non-American, I wanna know if any of this is true.

 

[AnOminous]

BTW, there's this debate on another forum about whether racism against blacks or reverse racism is the bigger issue today.

I really hate the phrase "reverse racism." It's all racism. Racism against blacks is more likely to harm you if you're black than racism against whites is to harm you if you're white (unless you're in Zimbabwe or South Africa), but they're both shit because they incorrectly (and immorally) judge people not by their individual characteristics but by some group to which they belong, which they had no choice about.

 

[2al]

Most people who cry racism are racist themselves.

Or if not, at least they're like SpongeBob in that episode where he thinks he's ugly when in truth he smells bad: they have some kind of flaw that they don't know exists and think that flaw is something else.

 

[Sloan Ward]

I really hate the phrase "reverse racism." It's all racism. Racism against blacks is more likely to harm you if you're black than racism against whites is to harm you if you're white (unless you're in Zimbabwe or South Africa), but they're both shit because they incorrectly (and immorally) judge people not by their individual characteristics but by some group to which they belong, which they had no choice about.

I agree. Whatever happened to letting bye gones be bye gons? Not hitting the mean kid back, because you we don't wanna "stoop to his level"?

 

[2al]

BTW, there's this debate on another forum about whether racism against blacks or reverse racism is the bigger issue today. I'm not gonna join in because that forum is filled with normie liberals, so I'm probably gonna get curbstomped anyway, and I'm a person who tends to thrive in hugboxes, but I'm curious anyway, and I want to have rebuttals in my head even though I'm not gonna join in, so here it goes: one guy poured his heart out about his experiences with reverse racism, and one guy was all, "Um, you're thinking like an alt-righter. Racism against blacks is still the bigger issue." (To be fair, the one guy who was talking about reverse racism did have this pretty dumb statement about how being patted down because you're black is not really oppression. It may not be "being kicked out of a school or establishment because you're black" tier oppression, but it is still oppression because it is not fair, and anybody could turn out to be a criminal anyway, so if you're working in security, you better treat everyone like they may or may not be criminals instead of treating certain people as if they're guilty before proven innocent.) Also, some guy who was just a neutral observer chipped in with a question about if even white people living in trailer parks are more privileged than black people, and this one guy (who is the most ardent debater in that forum. He's a liberal who has actually done lots of research, and no offense to him because we're actually friends, but I'm kinda surprised that he hasn't changed his mind after following politics since I dunno, the late '00s? I used to be like him, but I'm not like him anymore), he was like, "At least white people from trailer parks usually get the help they need with drug addiction and they're still less likely to go to prison." As a non-American, I wanna know if any of this is true.

BTW, is it true that even white people from trailer parks are still discriminated less than black people from bad neighborhoods?

 

[Wallace]

BTW, is it true that even white people from trailer parks are still discriminated less than black people from bad neighborhoods?

Classism is a thing, sure. But honestly? There's so many variables I don't think you really quantify it. Any attempt to try and quantify human suffering goes poorly, IMO.

The problem with the statement racism = power + privilege is that the people who use it seem to think that power and privilege are universal constants.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Classism is actually totally valid in western countries. Most people that are perpetually poor in capitalist democracies are human trash incapable of making good decisions for one reason or another and deserve it tbqh. Coincidentally a lot of these people are black. That's also part of why poors are more likely to be racist. They're surrounded by stupid assholes, but always assume it's unique to groups they don't belong to for self esteem reasons.

 

[2al]

BTW, here's another question: what is the line between being scared of certain people who superficially act like they fulfill a certain stereotype and being flat-out racist? Is there any?

 

[ICametoLurk]

Races are social constructs so you can't be Racist.