/r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

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Also I fucking love when you can tell that certain paths in mods were made by guys that love their little pet projects a bit too much.
Like twin mothers in OWB or Illyria and russia in KRedux for some ungodly reason.
KX russia is so fucking busted its not even funny
it works like 1/3 of the time
last i played the soviet union formable had the color of cat vomit and i actually had to go change the mod files to make it red
eurasian union was also glitchy as fuck
 
Because Japan dev has has been in rework hell and can't be worked on without risking causing conflicts and Burgundy's being cut while Germany remains in rework limbo. These guys have been completely fucked by TNO.
This is why any group project with more than 5 people needs a strong executive. You can argue if their decisions were good or not (they often werent) but both during Panzer and Pacifica's reign shit got done. And the reason why was very simple, there was somebody in charge.

The mod had a clear vision, and whenever there was a dispute on how to do things this way or that way, there was somebody who could get there and say: "I heard both your arguments and decided we will do things this way, and if you dont like it you can go make your own submod."

Ever since they adopted this sort of council system without a clear leader, the mod no longer has a vision since each developer wants to take it in a different direction, and nothing significant can get done because theres nobody above the others that can settle arguments. The only parts of the world being developed are those being ran by a single person because they are so irrelevant only a single autist cares about them.

Meanwhile, they are getting outpaced in development that actually matters by another autist whos just free to put whatever he wants in the mod because he doesnt have to ask for the approval of possibly dozens of other people.
 
In the time since TNO's last major update, EAW has released an entirely new continent, filled with playable nations, of which I think 8 have full paths, two of them having about 20 years of content, as well as hidden paths.
This is on top of expanding a whole raft of the existing nations paths, general bug fixes and some fairly big April Fools filler content. Oh, and fully implemented Götterdämmerungs special projects.
TNO on the other hand has removed a bunch of content, added 10 years of content to South America and given us CHILLEAN ANTARTICA! Absolute joke of a dev team.
 
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In the time since TNO's last major update, EAW has released an entirely new continent, filled with playable nations, of which I think 8 have full paths, two of them having about 20 years of content, as well as hidden paths.
This is on top of expanding a whole raft of the existing nations paths, general bug fixes and some fairly big April Fools filler content. Oh, and fully implemented Götterdämmerungs special projects.
TNO on the other hand has removed a bunch of content, added 10 years of content to South America and given us CHILLEAN ANTARTICA! Absolute joke of a dev team.
yeah but its horses bro
 
This is why any group project with more than 5 people needs a strong executive. You can argue if their decisions were good or not (they often werent) but both during Panzer and Pacifica's reign shit got done. And the reason why was very simple, there was somebody in charge.

The mod had a clear vision, and whenever there was a dispute on how to do things this way or that way, there was somebody who could get there and say: "I heard both your arguments and decided we will do things this way, and if you dont like it you can go make your own submod."

Ever since they adopted this sort of council system without a clear leader, the mod no longer has a vision since each developer wants to take it in a different direction, and nothing significant can get done because theres nobody above the others that can settle arguments. The only parts of the world being developed are those being ran by a single person because they are so irrelevant only a single autist cares about them.

Meanwhile, they are getting outpaced in development that actually matters by another autist whos just free to put whatever he wants in the mod because he doesnt have to ask for the approval of possibly dozens of other people.
I can´t believe i gave TNORA more love with barely writing like some events than some off the NuTNO team, and i feel bad when i am not writing for the mod in my free time,i guess in the end the Fascist/Nationalsocialist System (Everyone working for The Mod and the Mod above the Individual) against the Libertarian Socialist Chungus Sablin System (The Council system)
 
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Gunther has decided to play TFR live on YouTube.

 
It's strange Pacfica went with the Toolbox Theory economy system instead of a Vic2-like POP/goods system. It is not as if the latter is unfeasible. It would mesh better with hoi4 mechanics as well.

That is to say, I have an idea how to port Vic2 to hoi4 but I don't have 5 months to waste nor a 9950X3D cpu.
TNO would have to model every single genocide and ethnic cleansing that happens very directly and very graphically. The Aryan Brotherhood would be one giant genocide button against the natives of north Eurasia and against the Russians.
 
Gunther has decided to play TFR live on YouTube.

Update: The stream is taking place November 22nd, with YouTubers Otto Von Biscuit and Hansenfoulken.
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From the leaked dev notes, holy shit they are dense. Plenty of mod projects get by on 2 or 3 updates a year but that's because the updates are fun and add a substantial amount of content. This isn't to say the content teams like Kaiserreich make isn't sometimes shit but at least the content they make has you fighting wars and doing shit.
 
A TNO team member leaked all their internal notes to 4chan yesterday. Assuming it's real things don't look good.
First draft of coding for 1964 and 1968 for Yippie Presidents soon
Wait, you mean Yippie is entirely uncoded except for the first couple of presidents? Oh dear.

Italy is a single team and will no longer being treated as multiple tags to help with cohesion (everyone is Italian at the end of the day)
They're making major organizational changes in Italy in what should be the last stages of development with no plans for release? And possibly doing some reworking of it to reuse characters? Oh dear.

Round of applause for KD for carrying the Iberia patch!
This one guy has probably done half of TNO's development post-Guangdong since he also seems to have done the bulk of the Japan Facelift according to comments in the code.

Amur is the focal point of Russia dev still
Oh dear, a facelift of a complete path is still incomplete??? Remember, in Panzer's days Russia team was the same team that made like 20 10 year paths.
Amur and Tyumen are the closest to completion
Two facelifts at once, neither of which complete???

Manchuria is being refined with CRT art work and making path switches less janky
Manchuria obviously had someone halfway competent working on it since it actually had content in the 2023 leaks, so there's a non-zero chance we see this in like 6 months as 3 years of Content.

Schlafly had ties to fascists, US gov structure has enabled fascist governance in Yippie but it’s up to who is in charge
The US dev is so committed to this 'US bad' bit they might actually be a paid Sphere / Pakt propogandist.

Mango is working on the Congo Crisis!!
Oh boy, more OTL content but the communists have Nanbus.

Fill and HW are working with other devs on body team proposal, will hopefully lead tomore active code dev but progress is being made
Peter’s proposal to draft contribs into full time workers rejected!
The mod is so obviously fucked internally that people are actually starting to try and fix it from within. This will probably burn out before anything comes of it though since the same core people will be in charge.



TLDR it's a fucking trainwreck and next to no real progress is being made, not big souprice.
 
The US dev is so committed to this 'US bad' bit they might actually be a paid Sphere / Pakt propogandist.
Schalfy literally has events where she talks about "supporting our Judeo-Christian values". What Fascist is going to support her? I guess Ben Shapiro but transplanted to the 1960s would count...
 
2 or 3 updates a year
Other mods’ 2-3 updates a year: Entire regions overhauled, at least a dozen new and reworked focus trees, new wars etc.

TNO updates: 3 year demo content for a country no one cares about, existing content removed for “future reworks”, last bit of fun/schizo paths stamped out in favor of “realism”
 
Ever since they adopted this sort of council system without a clear leader, the mod no longer has a vision since each developer wants to take it in a different direction, and nothing significant can get done because theres nobody above the others that can settle arguments. The only parts of the world being developed are those being ran by a single person because they are so irrelevant only a single autist cares about them.
Proving why democracy sucks. The fuhrer Panzer was unironically the best for them. We made fun of him for being a dictator who would cut things and to be fair he did cause stuff like France to get shafted when it was ready on day one but he also got his retards to do their work. Nowadays its just campaign trail fags who magooed themselves into this mod.
The US dev is so committed to this 'US bad' bit they might actually be a paid Sphere / Pakt propogandist.
That itself would make a good path ironically enough. Anti-Americanist who turns out to be on German payroll. At best they might do the America First thing (the not Trump one) in which the Germans and Japs tried to support American neutrality organizations since her whole thing is funny enough end of history type shit "Japan and Germany will collapse since its self evident they will without God so Americans just need to do our culture war and wait for them to collapse."
Oh boy, more OTL content but the communists have Nanbus.
For the U.S Congo crisis the dev diary literally said its America and Germany competing for the rank of true Chud. You will never get based OFN maxxing again. you will be told that America is essentially the same. At this point I agree with what several commenters on their reddit have said. Just have the U.S start out as authdem or as fascist themselves with Yockey already at the start and make it a NOT-1984 mod if they are already going to make the U.S comically evil. It honestly feels like that "The Long March" Roleplay I posted back many moons ago. I would not even mind if it was different brands of evil if it wasn't trying to bullshit that normie liberal America is just as bad as le Japs and Nazis.
 
For the U.S Congo crisis the dev diary literally said its America and Germany competing for the rank of true Chud. You will never get based OFN maxxing again. you will be told that America is essentially the same. At this point I agree with what several commenters on their reddit have said. Just have the U.S start out as authdem or as fascist themselves with Yockey already at the start and make it a NOT-1984 mod if they are already going to make the U.S comically evil. It honestly feels like that "The Long March" Roleplay I posted back many moons ago. I would not even mind if it was different brands of evil if it wasn't trying to bullshit that normie liberal America is just as bad as le Japs and Nazis.
Add on to my last thing as well
Mango has promoted love and understanding across mankind
What's the deal with Magno? At this point he is the closest thing to a leader just because he gets name dropped the most. So many things mention him compared to other devs as well as dick riding him. I only know he is the one behind the Amerikkka push.
 
What's the deal with Magno? At this point he is the closest thing to a leader just because he gets name dropped the most. So many things mention him compared to other devs as well as dick riding him. I only know he is the one behind the Amerikkka push.
mango is one of the head Campaign Trail devs and is one of the most popular, he's a bad writer surrounded by retards (tallest dwarf) and has absolutely no creativity because he's an autistic centrist liberal
much like how I can't write anything about America without mentioning minstrel shows, his hyperfixation is based around being a hypercentrist libshit
effectively the reason why the mod is just a cold war scenario without commies now is because he's the head writer but is a fundamentally uncreative person whose ideas naturally boils down to "what if Jungo Yid, Deputy Secretary of Commerce in 1948 became president and was a wholesome socdem unlike that dang dirty old Drumpf!"
it's very embarrassing

he's also very 'no fun allowed' and has delisted multiple good TCT mods for saying nigger o algo
 
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