r/childfree - Where child-haters congregate

[Shield Breaker]

Bit of an overstatement to relate selfishness with not wanting kids.

Honestly the least selfish thing many could do would be to resist from spreading their genetics

Sorry, I was talking about why teens and young adults say that they never want children. When you were in high school, and a teacher, or whoever, talked about you one day having kids, what was your thought? 'I'm never having kids!' I would guess?

That is totally different from realizing that you wouldn't be a good parent, could pass on diseases, and so on. (I will say that if it's just your genes you worry about, consider adoption.) I feel like those are valid and unselfish reasons.

 

[MetalParakeet]

Sorry, I was talking about why teens and young adults say that they never want children. When you were in high school, and a teacher, or whoever, talked about you one day having kids, what was your thought? 'I'm never having kids!' I would guess?

That is totally different from realizing that you wouldn't be a good parent, could pass on diseases, and so on. (I will say that if it's just your genes you worry about, consider adoption.) I feel like those are valid and unselfish reasons.

My feelings are the same now as they were when I was a teen. Actually everyone I know who decided young that they didn't want kids and stuck with that have the same reasoning now as they did then.

I think "because I don't want to" is just as good of a reason as genetics, fear of being a bad parent, etc.

Ain't nothing selfish or wrong with just not wanting to

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

My feelings are the same now as they were when I was a teen. Actually everyone I know who decided young that they didn't want kids and stuck with that have the same reasoning now as they did then.

I think "because I don't want to" is just as good of a reason as genetics, fear of being a bad parent, etc.

Ain't nothing selfish or wrong with just not wanting to

Absolutely not wanting kids is completely fine reason not have kids but my experience is different about young people. I know so many people who didn't want kids in their teens but are now happy parents. Some change their mind some don't. There is nothing wrong with eather.

 

[MetalParakeet]

I wonder if some people make being childfree their identity in response to a long history of societal pressure to have kids.

Every time any group is pressured to be X, there always comes a minority that feel the need to make being Y their entire identity. Seems to be human nature to try to out obnoxious each other

 

[Trigger Me Timbers]

I don’t really care about people’s individual reasons for not wanting kids. However I always feel odd about people who feel the need to broadcast how virtuous they are for NOT doing something.

This can apply to childfree, atheists heck even vegans or fatties who never workout. Your not a good person or righteous just because your doing something that is almost 100% easier then the latter.

 

[Overcast]

To be fair, if we get to a point where humans are on the verge of extinction/not enough people to have genetic diversity, not wanting kids COULD be seen as a tad bit selfish.

But really, it’s fine if you don’t want kids. Whether it be for financial reasons or just not being into the idea.

 

[Shield Breaker]

Absolutely not wanting kids is completely fine reason not have kids but my experience is different about young people. I know so many people who didn't want kids in their teens but are now happy parents. Some change their mind some don't. There is nothing wrong with eather.

Yes, that was all I was talking about. I couldn't imagine having kids at any point in my life when I was younger, but now I am happy to have them.

 

[MetalParakeet]

I don’t really care about people’s individual reasons for not wanting kids. However I always feel odd about people who feel the need to broadcast how virtuous they are for NOT doing something.

This can apply to childfree, atheists heck even vegans or fatties who never workout. Your not a good person or righteous just because your doing something that is almost 100% easier then the latter.

That's basically what this entire website is about.

Very few people here hate gays, transgenders, fatties, etc. Everyone just hates the ones that make it become their entire identity, and feel the need to draw attention to it 24/7 on the internet.

I honestly wonder if like 99.9% of the cows on this site have BPD. Its like the internet has given Borderlines an irresistible medium to shriek for attention and special treatment

 

[queerape]

I don't think you can conclusively decide if you want kids or not until you are 25 or so because so much can change in your personality by then. Alot of my friends who decided they would never have kids in their teens are now married and expecting or with young kids, and there is some truth to that if you find someone who you find suitable to raise kid with you can indeed cange your mind.

 

[Fools Idol]

What gets me is that there is an awful lot of people saying that they don't want to clean up a babies shit and puke up, but will pick up their dogs shit or clean a litter tray. It wouldn't bother me but dog shit is honesty way worse that baby shit.

 

[off meds / online]

What gets me is that there is an awful lot of people saying that they don't want to clean up a babies shit and puke up, but will pick up their dogs shit or clean a litter tray. It wouldn't bother me but dog shit is honesty way worse that baby shit.

I kinda understand where you're coming from, but baby shit is vile, way worse than dogshit

 

[Fools Idol]

I kinda understand where you're coming from, but baby shit is vile, way worse than dogshit

All shit is vile but when it's your kid you just get on with it (I still say it's not that bad). Babies grow quickly and you don't have very long before they gain a lot of independence, you'll cleaning up after pets long after your kids start high school.

 

[queerape]

What gets me is that there is an awful lot of people saying that they don't want to clean up a babies shit and puke up, but will pick up their dogs shit or clean a litter tray. It wouldn't bother me but dog shit is honesty way worse that baby shit.

After a while you won’t have to worry about the baby’s shit anymore once they’re toilet trained. You’ll be picking up after your dog it’s whole life.

 

[Non-Expert!]

What gets me is that there is an awful lot of people saying that they don't want to clean up a babies shit and puke up, but will pick up their dogs shit or clean a litter tray. It wouldn't bother me but dog shit is honesty way worse that baby shit.

It is all just shit. You spend your whole life cleaning up your own shit. You end up cleaning toilets, which is the shit of every one around you. You clean up your dogs shit, your cat's shit, your husband's shit, what difference do a couple of kids make?

Honestly over your 7.5 decade life expectancy, unless you enjoy perfect health, and never get injured, strong chance that you will be sitting in your own shit, for brief intervals.

I have met people with such attitudes. They are also folks who freak out if there is a cockroach in the sink.

Every living animal excretes urine and crap. It is an inevitable part of life and ultimately a person is depriving themself of attachments and social bonds that are necessary for our mental health, especially as we age.

 

[Azafran90]

I kinda understand where you're coming from, but baby shit is vile, way worse than dogshit

First of all, cat shit is the worst shit, by miles.
Second, meconium is gross as fuck but pre-solids baby shit is as clean as you get. Some nutjobs even eat it or put it on their face*.


*Fashion school teaches you there's no hope for humanity and its gross people.

 

[Rice Is Ready]

What gets me is that there is an awful lot of people saying that they don't want to clean up a babies shit and puke up, but will pick up their dogs shit or clean a litter tray. It wouldn't bother me but dog shit is honesty way worse that baby shit.

Dogs poop outside and you clean it up with a shovel. Babies poop in a paper bag wrapped around their waists and sometimes decide to rub it all over themselves and eat it.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

Dogs poop outside and you clean it up with a shovel. Babies poop in a paper bag wrapped around their waists and sometimes decide to rub it all over themselves and eat it.

To be fair, some dogs eat it too.

Some nutjobs even eat it or put it on their face*.

But why tho?

 

[Azafran90]

To be fair, some dogs eat it too.

But why tho?

"Something something mother cells, something something looking younger"
They use placenta most of the time.

 

[Non-Expert!]

That's basically what this entire website is about.

Very few people here hate gays, transgenders, fatties, etc. Everyone just hates the ones that make it become their entire identity, and feel the need to draw attention to it 24/7 on the internet.

I honestly wonder if like 99.9% of the cows on this site have BPD. Its like the internet has given Borderlines an irresistible medium to shriek for attention and special treatment

And you are probably correct .... absolutely correct actually.

I am always hesitant to bring up Cluster B personality disorders, but most of the time some sort of personality dysfunction underlies these folks' maladaptive behavior.

These people fit the diagnostic criteria so well, that we can easily derail the whole thread just discussing their pathologies.

Autism Spectrum Disorders is also a posibility. There is a wide range, but generally cluelessness and lack of empathy is part of the dX.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

You know how people now talk about eating disorders and disordered eating, with the latter being people who have issues with food but not enough for a diagnosis? That's how I feel about most r/childfree people: they don't have a personality disorder, but they do have a disordered personality. There's a lot of issues with relating to other people and understanding socially normative behavior.

Also, a lot of them take crazy cat lady to a new level.