War Pro-China forum's plan to troll Hong Kong protestors foiled after doxing retaliation - 4-chan would be proud!

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Screen capture from Diba's call for support on Facebook.
Diba, an online forum for pro-government mainland Chinese netizens, attempted to mobilize their users to troll Hong Kong anti-extradition protesters on Facebook and Reddit-like forum, LIHKG. The plan quickly backfired as Hong Kong netizens doxxed members of the Diba administration, releasing their identity card numbers, bank records, home addresses, and more.
On 22 July, Diba forum admins began calling for an “expedition” into Hong Kong anti-extradition platforms after anti-extradition protesters threw an ink-bomb on the national emblem outside China’s Liaison Office in Hong Kong. Diba administrators said that the mission was to counter Hong Kong independence and to show support for the Hong Kong police. To assist them, the administrators recruited about 12,000 netizens and prepared a large number of online stickers.
On 23 July, they flooded Facebook and left pro-China comments on pages run by Hong Kong democracy organizations such as Civic Human Rights Front.
However, the Diba trolls were soon to find out that they could not enter LIHKG as the forum required a local ISP email to log in and leave messages. Worse still, Diba’s administrators then discovered that their real identities and private information had been exposed and posted on a group chat in LIHKG’s mobile app.
China has adopted real-name registration for all online platforms, as a result, finding the real identities and accompanying personal information proved to be easy for Hong Kong netizens. The real names, identity card numbers, home addresses, mobile phone numbers, QQ numbers, online payment accounts, bank card numbers, and bank account balance sheets of Diba admins were shared online.
LIHKG users then made use of the expedition leaders’ identities to get enrolled in the People Liberation Army.
On 24 July, Diba’s administrators surrendered and posted a message on Weibo calling for a halt to their original plan:

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To protect all of your personal privacy and safety and causing trouble, the management team has decided to dissolve the online army group. The management team expressed our deep apology to the leak of personal data due to the action on July 22.

Diba has organized several missions to spread patriotic messages outside the Great Firewall. The most well-known of these took place in 2015 during the Taiwan presidential election. The Diba troll army has a motto to boost their spirit in the online battle, “Wherever Diba’s expeditionary force reaches, not even a blade of grass can be spared”.
Their defeat was widely discussed on Chinese social media with many users taking the opportunity to laugh at the expense of the Diba admins. Xiakedao, a famous People’s Daily’s commentator could not help but poke fun at the amateur online army. He wrote “defeated without entering into a fight” (出師未捷身先死） and added a “laughing to death emoji”.
Diba’s plan to troll anti-extradition platforms is reflective of the online patriotic sentiment which is also echoed by the Communist Party-backed rappers, CD REV ‘s newly released music video, “Kung Fu China”. The rap song suggests the use of Chinese kungfu to defend the dignity of the motherland.
Patriotism circulating on social media in China is often more extreme than official propaganda. While official media outlets define the Hong Kong anti-extradition protest as a pro-Hong Kong independence movement sponsored by foreign enemies, the younger generation of online patriots are calling for more concrete action to defend national pride.
This idea seems to have traveled as far as Australia. On 25 July, a group of pro-China students clashed with pro-Hong Kong protesters at the University of Queensland during a solidarity rally in support of the Hong Kong anti-extradition protests.
As Hong Kong's anti-extradition campaign has a strong international front, similar conflicts may emerge in other parts of the world.

Funniest part has to be the Hong Kongers enrolling the idiots LARPing as an Army into the real thing too!

 

[Anonymous For This]

Fuck the CCP.

Someone's being jailed for "corruption" by the Xi clique over this.

 

[Damn Near]

Mainland Chinese have no souls or intellect, the British should be ashamed of themselves for handing over HK

 

[Coleslaw]

Lol, everyone relevant stopped using it about, oh, seven or eight years ago. Now it's basically just Chinese Reddit but even more cancerous, if such a thing is even possible.

 

[Anonymous For This]

Mainland Chinese have no souls or intellect, the British should be ashamed of themselves for handing over HK

Most mainlanders don't give two fucks about the CCP. I've met Party members who hate the Party in private. But in order to own a business or live your life without getting fucked with, you gotta play the game. The CCP is pretty adept at spinning bullshit, too.

Most Chinese I've met in China have been extremely kind and generous.

Neither the UK or HK wanted to turn it over to the mainland. Self-rule would have been preferred, but China had HK by the nuts -- it provided the water and power supply to the city-state. HK could not have survived without the mainland. And at the end of the day, if China wanted tanks rolling through Hong Kong City Hall, there was fuck all the Royal Navy would have been able to do about it.

 

[Takodachi]

China has adopted real-name registration for all online platforms

Ah, I think I know why Null fellates China so much.

 

[Coleslaw]

Most mainlanders don't give two fucks about the CCP. I've met Party members who hate the Party in private. But in order to own a business or live your life without getting fucked with, you gotta play the game. The CCP is pretty adept at spinning bullshit, too.

Most Chinese I've met in China have been extremely kind and generous.

Neither the UK or HK wanted to turn it over to the mainland. Self-rule would have been preferred, but China had HK by the nuts -- it provided the water and power supply to the city-state. HK could not have survived without the mainland. And at the end of the day, if China wanted tanks rolling through Hong Kong City Hall, there was fuck all the Royal Navy would have been able to do about it.

All letting the British keep it would mean is that the locals would be protesting against 49751694219 rapefugees instead.

 

[Damn Near]

Most mainlanders don't give two fucks about the CCP. I've met Party members who hate the Party in private. But in order to own a business or live your life without getting fucked with, you gotta play the game. The CCP is pretty adept at spinning bullshit, too.

Most Chinese I've met in China have been extremely kind and generous.

Neither the UK or HK wanted to turn it over to the mainland. Self-rule would have been preferred, but China had HK by the nuts -- it provided the water and power supply to the city-state. HK could not have survived without the mainland. And at the end of the day, if China wanted tanks rolling through Hong Kong City Hall, there was fuck all the Royal Navy would have been able to do about it.

All I can go by are all the mainland chinese immigrants I've encountered in NYC who are basically jews but with no social skills or talent for anything besides littering, smoking, and spitting on the sidewalk

 

[Rikka Takarada 2]

Most mainlanders don't give two fucks about the CCP. I've met Party members who hate the Party in private. But in order to own a business or live your life without getting fucked with, you gotta play the game. The CCP is pretty adept at spinning bullshit, too.

Most Chinese I've met in China have been extremely kind and generous.

Sad but true; if you have a different opinion, you have to keep it to yourself most of the time; a Chinese friend of mine told me that one of her friends was visited by the Police for posting a critical message on WeChat (the Chinese "messenger" app that the government can read). You have to keep your opinions to yourself, unless you speak another language (which the Police usually can't read; some of the things we said about the Government in the same conversation would probably have had us visited next if we'd messaged in Chinese). Among younger Chinese people, there's very little enthusiasm for the CCP (of course many older people have been indoctrinated their entire lives, by contrast).

Then there's the simple fact that censorship is so complete behind the Great Firewall that nobody even knows what's really going on! Only a few days after Xi Jinping became Emperor for Life, my same friend and I were talking about Russia and she said it was good that China had Presidential term limits so they can't have another Putin. I had to inform her that, as of that same week, they didn't - and she was horrified when I brought up dozens of articles on it. And every Chinese person I've talked to about the whole "Social Credit System" coming in has been so unsettled by it that they clearly don't want it to be real.

And then the cherry on top is that they know deep down that, regardless of their opinions, there's nothing they can actually do about it since the Government is a fascist dictatorship - so they just keep their heads down and work for wages that barely support them, and those that can make plans to leave for good.

All letting the British keep it would mean is that the locals would be protesting against 49751694219 rapefugees instead.

Lesser of two evils compared to being ruled by China...

 

[Coleslaw]

Lesser of two evils compared to being ruled by China...

Potato, potahto. Fuck all forms of leftism.

 

[NoBully]

Time for the victory fanfare music to kick in!

Chin would be proud.

 

[Anonymous For This]

Sad but true; if you have a different opinion, you have to keep it to yourself most of the time; a Chinese friend of mine told me that one of her friends was visited by the Police for posting a critical message on WeChat (the Chinese "messenger" app that the government can read). You have to keep your opinions to yourself, unless you speak another language (which the Police usually can't read; some of the things we said about the Government in the same conversation would probably have had us visited next if we'd messaged in Chinese). Among younger Chinese people, there's very little enthusiasm for the CCP (of course many older people have been indoctrinated their entire lives, by contrast).

Then there's the simple fact that censorship is so complete behind the Great Firewall that nobody even knows what's really going on! Only a few days after Xi Jinping became Emperor for Life, my same friend and I were talking about Russia and she said it was good that China had Presidential term limits so they can't have another Putin. I had to inform her that, as of that same week, they didn't - and she was horrified when I brought up dozens of articles on it. And every Chinese person I've talked to about the whole "Social Credit System" coming in has been so unsettled by it that they clearly don't want it to be real.

And then the cherry on top is that they know deep down that, regardless of their opinions, there's nothing they can actually do about it since the Government is a fascist dictatorship - so they just keep their heads down and work for wages that barely support them, and those that can make plans to leave for good.


Lesser of two evils compared to being ruled by China...

I'm really hoping that as more mainlanders gain access to VPNs, that the CCP's stranglehold on information will dissipate. I think the current generation of Chinese youngsters will be the last generation to remember the CCP. Or so I hope.

I talk to the missus' family in China through WeChat. I'm extremely cautious about what we discuss, either in Mandarin or English.

All I can go by are all the mainland chinese immigrants I've encountered in NYC who are basically jews but with no social skills or talent for anything besides littering, smoking, and spitting on the sidewalk

That's hillbilly shit. I visited a Taoist shrine once with my fiance's aunt and her aunt's friend. The friend spent the whole time spitting everywhere. Both my fiance and her aunt were mortified. It's just like having a redneck who chews dip.

 

[Stoneheart]

I've encountered in NYC who are basically jews but with no social skills or talent for anything besides littering, smoking, and spitting on the sidewalk

that sounds like polish people...

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

I'm really hoping that as more mainlanders gain access to VPNs, that the CCP's stranglehold on information will dissipate. I think the current generation of Chinese youngsters will be the last generation to remember the CCP. Or so I hope.

I talk to the missus' family in China through WeChat. I'm extremely cautious about what we discuss, either in Mandarin or English.

I doubt that, the CCP has the Internet by the balls.

 

[BoingBoingBoi]

I'm really hoping that as more mainlanders gain access to VPNs, that the CCP's stranglehold on information will dissipate. I think the current generation of Chinese youngsters will be the last generation to remember the CCP. Or so I hope.

it's only gonna get worse. many (most?) vpns don't work anymore and the propaganda in the mainland is jaw-droppingly horrifying. the sad truth is that most chinese are brainwashed dummies who don't even understand why people in hk are protesting but are told to hate it and just support the police/gov't/ccp. even the young people are brainwashed and mostly useless because, well, most people aren't willing to accept that their entire life has been a lie.

it's a tricky situation though. hk is basically a chinese colony, complete with a colonial style government and liaison office that directs hk policy and no accountability to the people. it's deeply unclear how a territory in such a situation could be integrated into the motherland. i'm not sure it's even successfully happened before.

the ccp's long term plan is to slowly repopulate hk with a mainland-friendly populace, but they're already late to be doing that, and these recent protests, even if completely hopeless, have at the very least shown them that they have a very long way to go.

additionally, they've been a supreme embarassment for the party, which i would argue is better than being anything remotely resembling a threat. months on end of peaceful civil disobedience, especially if it goes on through the PRC national day on october 1, will do tremendous reputational damage to the party and demonstrate their incompetence to the world. even trump has mentioned this offhand when he said last week that the protests have gone on too long---meaning that any competent government would have been able to deal with them already.

if the protests can remain peaceful and on-point, they might have a shot of embarassing the party into appeasing some of their demands. if they keep on rioting and escalating the violence then the pla might roll in and that would be the end of hk.

 

[Terminus Est]

This is all thanks to Chin. Chin is the one who did the dox of those filthy mainland communist fucks.

 

[Coleslaw]

it's only gonna get worse. many (most?) vpns don't work anymore and the propaganda in the mainland is jaw-droppingly horrifying. the sad truth is that most chinese are brainwashed dummies who don't even understand why people in hk are protesting but are told to hate it and just support the police/gov't/ccp. even the young people are brainwashed and mostly useless because, well, most people aren't willing to accept that their entire life has been a lie.

it's a tricky situation though. hk is basically a chinese colony, complete with a colonial style government and liaison office that directs hk policy and no accountability to the people. it's deeply unclear how a territory in such a situation could be integrated into the motherland. i'm not sure it's even successfully happened before.

the ccp's long term plan is to slowly repopulate hk with a mainland-friendly populace, but they're already late to be doing that, and these recent protests, even if completely hopeless, have at the very least shown them that they have a very long way to go.

additionally, they've been a supreme embarassment for the party, which i would argue is better than being anything remotely resembling a threat. months on end of peaceful civil disobedience, especially if it goes on through the PRC national day on october 1, will do tremendous reputational damage to the party and demonstrate their incompetence to the world. even trump has mentioned this offhand when he said last week that the protests have gone on too long---meaning that any competent government would have been able to deal with them already.

if the protests can remain peaceful and on-point, they might have a shot of embarassing the party into appeasing some of their demands. if they keep on rioting and escalating the violence then the pla might roll in and that would be the end of hk.

Yeah, sadly. Don't keep up with updates for a day, hope you enjoy not having access to it until you leave the country.

 

[DragoonSierra]

Sad but true; if you have a different opinion, you have to keep it to yourself most of the time; a Chinese friend of mine told me that one of her friends was visited by the Police for posting a critical message on WeChat (the Chinese "messenger" app that the government can read). You have to keep your opinions to yourself, unless you speak another language (which the Police usually can't read; some of the things we said about the Government in the same conversation would probably have had us visited next if we'd messaged in Chinese). Among younger Chinese people, there's very little enthusiasm for the CCP (of course many older people have been indoctrinated their entire lives, by contrast).

Then there's the simple fact that censorship is so complete behind the Great Firewall that nobody even knows what's really going on! Only a few days after Xi Jinping became Emperor for Life, my same friend and I were talking about Russia and she said it was good that China had Presidential term limits so they can't have another Putin. I had to inform her that, as of that same week, they didn't - and she was horrified when I brought up dozens of articles on it. And every Chinese person I've talked to about the whole "Social Credit System" coming in has been so unsettled by it that they clearly don't want it to be real.

And then the cherry on top is that they know deep down that, regardless of their opinions, there's nothing they can actually do about it since the Government is a fascist dictatorship - so they just keep their heads down and work for wages that barely support them, and those that can make plans to leave for good.


Lesser of two evils compared to being ruled by China...

Is there a light at the end of the horizon?

 

[Anonymous For This]

it's only gonna get worse. many (most?) vpns don't work anymore and the propaganda in the mainland is jaw-droppingly horrifying. the sad truth is that most chinese are brainwashed dummies who don't even understand why people in hk are protesting but are told to hate it and just support the police/gov't/ccp. even the young people are brainwashed and mostly useless because, well, most people aren't willing to accept that their entire life has been a lie.

it's a tricky situation though. hk is basically a chinese colony, complete with a colonial style government and liaison office that directs hk policy and no accountability to the people. it's deeply unclear how a territory in such a situation could be integrated into the motherland. i'm not sure it's even successfully happened before.

the ccp's long term plan is to slowly repopulate hk with a mainland-friendly populace, but they're already late to be doing that, and these recent protests, even if completely hopeless, have at the very least shown them that they have a very long way to go.

additionally, they've been a supreme embarassment for the party, which i would argue is better than being anything remotely resembling a threat. months on end of peaceful civil disobedience, especially if it goes on through the PRC national day on october 1, will do tremendous reputational damage to the party and demonstrate their incompetence to the world. even trump has mentioned this offhand when he said last week that the protests have gone on too long---meaning that any competent government would have been able to deal with them already.

if the protests can remain peaceful and on-point, they might have a shot of embarassing the party into appeasing some of their demands. if they keep on rioting and escalating the violence then the pla might roll in and that would be the end of hk.

This is anecdotal evidence on my end. I was in China right after the New Year. I used NordVPN and never had an issue connecting to Wi-Fi networks while I was there nor the last few times I was there before that. I imagine a lot of issues revolve around passing around flash drives with VPN software installed that never get updated. That was how I was told most people were getting them. How that works I have no idea.

Even though you are right about the prevalence of propaganda, I don't believe it is as bad as it was during the 90s and 80s. The average mainlander I've met has absolutely loved their country, but understood there were things they weren't being told about. Tiananmen Square is well known and I've heard students being taught that Mao was a far from perfect leader. They hold off on placing the blame for Tiananmen Square on officials and there is absolutely no mention of the famine during The Great Leap Forward however.

I think a good portion of the population is seeing through the horseshit. Right now, there isn't much of an incentive for the average Chinese to do fuck all about it. Who wants to get their teeth knocked in by riot police? But give it enough time, enough information from the west, enough economic heartache, and enough squabbling between the cliques and I think the CCP won't last past 2050.

Mainstream "Sovietologists" hadn't expected the USSR to fall either. I could absolutely be wrong, but I really hope I'm not.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Is it true that if you break the digital wall of China and shitpost banned material that they can get the USA to export you there and be charged with crimes?