Porn Debate From The Pooner Zoo

[pink cigarettes]

Straight men like watching lesbian porn because they find women attractive. Straight women liking gay porn shouldn’t be a big head-scratcher.

No, it's actually gross and weird that women want to watch men sucking dick. Porn is gross and weird and fake in general, but most can understand on a visceral level why a man watching two fake lesbians is less bizarre and repulsive than a woman enjoying watching a man get pounded in the ass. I'm a straight woman and the first says "ugh, dudes amirite" while the second says "deranged gooner female enjoying something I would rather go blind than see"

 

[Peaches Demure]

No, it's actually gross and weird that women want to watch men sucking dick. Porn is gross and weird and fake in general, but most can understand on a visceral level why a man watching two fake lesbians is less bizarre and repulsive than a woman enjoying watching a man get pounded in the ass. I'm a straight woman and the first says "ugh, dudes amirite" while the second says "deranged gooner female enjoying something I would rather go blind than see"

The majority of the m/m shippers don't actually watch porn, they read stories and fanfic, which is totally OK if done in moderation. It only becomes a problem when it becomes the domineering facet of their lives and their main source of interaction with others.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

The majority of the m/m shippers don't actually watch porn, they read stories and fanfic, which is totally OK if done in moderation. It only becomes a problem when it becomes the domineering facet of their lives and their main source of interaction with others.

"Not porn" is an extremely bold way to describe a lot of this written "erotica." Much of which is more graphic and disturbing than anything you'd see on a first pass through a mainstream (video) porn site.

Sticking with "it all rots your brain and is best avoided entirely."

 

[Szfynks]

No, it's actually gross and weird that women want to watch men sucking dick. Porn is gross and weird and fake in general, but most can understand on a visceral level why a man watching two fake lesbians is less bizarre and repulsive than a woman enjoying watching a man get pounded in the ass. I'm a straight woman and the first says "ugh, dudes amirite" while the second says "deranged gooner female enjoying something I would rather go blind than see"

Tbh, I'm not a big fan of porn per se, but I do enjoy gay erotica more because then I usually dont have to deal with neither gross sexual objectification of women or some Twilight-like bs about stupid women falling for abusive guys.

Of course, in gay (fan)fiction you can often find the same shit in top/bottom relationships etc., but it just shows the author is female and is projecting these (cishet, lol) tropes onto gay men, because they are horny af and dont know how to express themselves sexually as girls/ women.

 

[pink cigarettes]

Tbh, I'm not a big fan of porn per se, but I do enjoy gay erotica more because then I usually dont have to deal with neither gross sexual objectification of women or some Twilight-like bs about stupid women falling for abusive guys.

Of course, in gay (fan)fiction you can often find the same shit in top/bottom relationships etc., but it just shows the author is female and is projecting these (cishet, lol) tropes onto gay men, because they are horny af and dont know how to express themselves sexually as girls/ women.

"I am not a fan of porn"
(PL sperg no1currs that reveals preferred sub-categories of porn complete with slang)
Sure Jan

 

[Iron Jaguar]

men like filthy hardcore porn so you’re going to have to degrade yourself to keep your man happy

This isn't actually true, though. It is a very successful Talmudist psyop (especially considering that it is Talmudists who create and fund the worst, most depraved stuff), making girls think all men want that, then doing it, then resenting their boyfriends/husbands for degrading them.

The women and girls who get into yaoi/gay media and end up on the pooner pipeline seem to have something wrong with their brains. Instead of just enjoying some stuff they find attractive, they get obsessed and interpret their arousal as, “It turns me on, therefore I must become it to make it a reality.” I’m not sure where, how, or why the wires get crossed for some and others are safe

I'm fairly certain most of them have absolutely no sexual experience with men.

 

[KateHikes14]

The majority of the m/m shippers don't actually watch porn, they read stories and fanfic, which is totally OK if done in moderation. It only becomes a problem when it becomes the domineering facet of their lives and their main source of interaction with others.

Much in the way that there's not really a healthy amount of heroin to consume as long as it doesn't "take over your life", you personally are playing with fire if your so far gone that you think that consuming gay porn can be healthy for a women regardless of media type. If you think I'm being hyperbolic ask a conventionally successful woman in your life how much gay porn she reads/watches, and if you realize that's an insane thing to ask them, then you probably already know.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

they read stories and fanfic, which is totally OK if done in moderation

Lol, no.

 

[Szfynks]

"I am not a fan of porn"
(PL sperg no1currs that reveals preferred sub-categories of porn complete with slang)
Sure Jan

I was a 14 year old on 4chan once, too...
And my ex-bff was seriously obsessed with fanfiction and consoomed enourmous amount of it even at 30 years of age and sperging about stupid tropes. There are reasons we're not friends anymore.

My point was these girls have zero idea how to be sexual beings as women while not being objectified by men or pretending to be them (usually to escape objectification). You dont need serious sexual trauma to become a pooner. Twenty years ago most of fujos would sperg about yaoi on forums, grow out of it and be regular straight women with the exeption of a few autists. Now you have girls literally looking for an identity and a sense of self or purpose in gay porn. Back then the worst thing that could happen was becoming a fat shut-in obsessed with faggots - now the worst thing that can happen is complete body mutilation and dying of sepsis because of it, while pretending to be a faggot.

 

[Paper Machete]

I was a 14 year old on 4chan once, too...
And my ex-bff was seriously obsessed with fanfiction and consoomed enourmous amount of it even at 30 years of age and sperging about stupid tropes. There are reasons we're not friends anymore.

My point was these girls have zero idea how to be sexual beings as women while not being objectified by men or pretending to be them (usually to escape objectification). You dont need serious sexual trauma to become a pooner. Twenty years ago most of fujos would sperg about yaoi on forums, grow out of it and be regular straight women with the exeption of a few autists. Now you have girls literally looking for an identity and a sense of self or purpose in gay porn. Back then the worst thing that could happen was becoming a fat shut-in obsessed with faggots - now the worst thing that can happen is complete body mutilation and dying of sepsis because of it, while pretending to be a faggot.

What you call objectification is just desire. It is normal not only for women to be desired by men but for women to desire men and for that desire to be appreciated by both parties. It's not pathological.

All of what you're saying is 100% cope.

They just think it's hot, interesting for seeming tabooness, and is accessible to them because it's easy to find and considered normal in online fandoms where geeky girls might go. The real thing here is that a lot of these girls are autistic and not all that much to look at. They think they will be more attractive and desirable as men and that not accepting a trans identity is what is holding them back. All their problems are their old girl self and not their new boy self. The fact they've been fantasizing and fapping to dumb gay shit has trained their brain on to that so when they envision what being a boy will be like and the sorts of relationships they want, that's what they come up with.

 

[Szfynks]

What you call objectification is just desire. It is normal not only for women to be desired by men but for women to desire men and for that desire to be appreciated by both parties. It's not pathological.

All of what you're saying is 100% cope.

They just think it's hot, interesting for seeming tabooness, and is accessible to them because it's easy to find and considered normal in online fandoms where geeky girls might go. The real thing here is that a lot of these girls are autistic and not all that much to look at. They think they will be more attractive and desirable as men and that not accepting a trans identity is what is holding them back. All their problems are their old girl self and not their new boy self. The fact they've been fantasizing and fapping to dumb gay shit has trained their brain on to that so when they envision what being a boy will be like and the sorts of relationships they want, that's what they come up with.

Cope about what? That Im happily married and dont waste time on fandoms?
These girls are usually in puberty and dont like how their bodies are changing because it often comes with some kind of male harrasment. Pulling bras, groping, stupid comments. My ex-friend was molested at 12 by the postman, because she already had huge tits. It's not rocket science to conclude they dont feel comfortable with their budding womanhood and resort to - sometimes extreme - escapism, especially when others are egging them on.
No, it's not desire. If you find being stalked or imprisoned romantic then something went super wrong in your upbringing. You can be and feel desired without being treated like a prop.

 

[Paper Machete]

Cope about what? That Im happily married and dont waste time on fandoms?
These girls are usually in puberty and dont like how their bodies are changing because it often comes with some kind of male harrasment. Pulling bras, groping, stupid comments. My ex-friend was molested at 12 by the postman, because she already had huge tits. It's not rocket science to conclude they dont feel comfortable with their budding womanhood and resort to - sometimes extreme - escapism, especially when others are egging them on.
No, it's not desire. If you find being stalked or imprisoned romantic then something went super wrong in your upbringing. You can be and feel desired without being treated like a prop.

I'm not talking about abuse and these experiences do not happen to everyone growing up. I knew girls into this stuff and have been exposed to a lot of the content. They weren't traumatized. They were into it for the reasons a lot of people are into sexualized content.

Women and girls are people with agency not poor little beans who only ever react to things that just happen to them.

 

[Szfynks]

I'm not talking about abuse and these experiences do not happen to everyone growing up. I knew girls into this stuff and have been exposed to a lot of the content. They weren't traumatized. They were into it for the reasons a lot of people are into sexualized content.

Women and girls are people with agency not poor little beans who only ever react to things that just happen to them.

At this point let's just say we agree to disagree.