Culture Playing Red Dead Online as a black character means enduring racist garbage - Slave catchers, KKK-inspired clans, and racial targeting: what players reenact in Rockstar’s Western

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https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2019/1/15/18183843/red-dead-online-black-character-racism

The joys of Red Dead Redemption 2’s open world are in its details. You must eat, you must bathe, you must shave, you must clean your guns. Minor characters all have elaborate routines, suggestions of a life beyond the player. Even background scenery demands attention. This onerous devotion to a rewarding cowboy fantasy birthed a culture that expects that developers Rockstar Games have accounted for nearly anything the player might do within its digital borders. Red Dead also takes place in 1899 — three years after the Supreme Court legalized racial segregation, midway through the presidency of a man who fought in the Civil War — which means, for some fans, era-specific racism becomes a part of the experience.

To play Red Dead Redemption 2 is to test the boundaries of what is possible within its elaborate simulation. One YouTuber in particular, Shirrako, has a channel full of taboo situations that he concocts for the viewing pleasure of his audience (like feeding an in-game feminist to a virtual alligator). But by far, his most popular video is “What Happens If You Bring Black Man To KKK?”, a three-minute Red Dead Redemption 2 clip that has been viewed over 8 million times. As it turns out, nothing happens.

“The KKK video was an idea many viewers wanted me to test,” Shirrako told The Verge. The top comment on the footage, which has 11,000 upvotes, bemoans that Rockstar didn’t account for a player forcing a black man and a KKK member to meet. After all, the spectator says, Red Dead Redemption is so detailed that it wouldn’t be a stretch to assume Rockstar might have hidden something special for curious players. What to make of that expectation? Is the cowboy fantasy inextricably linked with racism for players, even in this digital world? Should it be in a game?

In its 20-year history, Rockstar Games has garnered prestige for lavish playhouses where players can run amok, social mores be damned. Beyond the mechanical possibility spaces Rockstar expertly devises, its games are known for their social commentary and serious narratives. While not explicitly about race, Red Dead Redemption 2 does brush up against the subject. Your in-game posse has black characters in it, and you meet racists who are portrayed in a poor light. These are portions of the game that Rockstar has near-total authorship of, allowing it to express specific politics at the player. But in the multiplayer segment of Red Dead 2, the tenor of the land is dictated by the players.

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Fans can customize their own black characters, which is an exciting option for many players — that is, until they actually go out into the world and interact with other people. According to many fans I’ve spoken to, Red Dead Redemption 2 fosters a particularly hostile environment for black characters. When Red Dead Online launched, I saw tweets remarking that black players couldn’t do anything without being called the n-word by players controlling white characters, or they were being hunted down for the crime of having dark skin. While some players found this phenomenon funny or unremarkable, others find the racism jarring: are these play styles betraying real-world beliefs?

“White Boys on Red Dead Redemption Online really be calling Black People Darkies,” one user on Twitter said. “And all though it is racist, it’s still kind of funny … Red Dead got these white boys on some throwback racist shit.”

“Played Red Dead Online for an hour today and already ran into two niggas role playing as ‘runaway slave catchers’ ... & of course my character is black so y’all can tell how that went lmaooo fuck this man,” another said.

Over the last year, high-profile slip-ups of racial slurs from personalities like PewDiePie and Ninja have sparked at least some introspection within the gaming community. While many believe that the n-word doesn’t have a place in anyone’s vocabulary, others think that such words aren’t just acceptable, but endemic to the hobby. Recently, a post that called the n-word a “gamer” wordwent viral on Twitter. Make the mistake of leaving public chat on in anymultiplayer game, and you’re bound to hear the n-word carelessly slung around by young white boys. But while racist slurs may be common both in digital and IRL spaces, many players I’ve spoken to over the last few weeks feel that it’s a little worse than usual in Red Dead Redemption 2 because of the game’s setting and commitment to realism.

Lordaedonis, a black player who spends a lot of time in Red Dead Onlineparticipating in shootouts, says the vibe of the game can dramatically change from one moment to the next for his characters. One minute, he feels like an outlaw, and the next, he might feel like “a runaway from a slave plantation depending on who’s in the lobby.”

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Lordaedonis is used to slurs in online gaming — he’s played plenty of Call of Duty — but Red Dead Online feels different just by nature of what the game allows you to do. Rope is included in your offensive toolkit, and while everyone can be lassoed, the mechanic has a distinctly different feel for black players. Sometimes, Lordaedonis says, rivals will hang him off of cliffs after calling him the n-word. And if they don’t try to re-create hangings, the players will make remarks that make a point of reminding him when the game takes place.

“Though, I will say the luxury of [carrying] a knife is something I wish more of my ancestors were able to share,” Lordaedonis says.

These are players who chose to weather no man’s land, but other fans I spoke to say the racialized garbage in Red Dead Online prevented them from getting into the game. One player tells me, “The bullshit I endured on RDO made me quit the game altogether.”

Nearly everyone I spoke to agreed that Red Dead Online has a unique racial problem, but the explanations for the phenomenon ranged widely. Some stipulated that it was just trash talk meant to get under your skin, and race just happens to be one way of achieving that. Perhaps the most common theory posited was that it all comes down to anonymity: when you can look like anyone you want and the game doesn’t penalize you for targeting a specific race, of course there will be bad actors. This isn’t unique to Red Dead Online.

suffer untowardbehavior from white people straight to their face. Such incidents may seem baffling until you consider that some people living in this country look back on prior periods fondly, as if they were the good old days.

Perhaps the most convincing argument for the state of Red Dead Online is that the nostalgia for a historical setting combined with a lack repercussions for racial targeting makes people feel comfortable acting out racism toward vulnerable players. If Red Dead is already a game committed to realism and this period of time is widely known to be awful for people of color, then some players excuse their behavior by thinking it’s only natural for them to be racist themselves. Or better put, by one Red Dead Online player I talked to: “HiStOrIcAl AcCuRaCy.”

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Similarly, Bernard Smalls, a contributor to HipHopWired, argues that the game’s setting made a difference in how players treated each other. “I remember a player actually saying ‘get that nigger’ with a Western twang to his voice,” Smalls says. “It was like they felt they have the perfect game to do so.”

The irony, of course, is that while Red Dead Redemption is committed to a certain fantasy of mechanical “realism,” the game itself makes no qualms about its politics. Micah, an antagonist within the game, for example, is a racist character who is clearly established as a terrible person. In a different mission, you find a lover of the Confederacy who makes the protagonist of the game furious. Players flocking to awful role-playing bits seem to miss this, though.

For some veteran black gunslingers, abhorrent racial behavior toward them is just another day in the Wild West. They’re used to it; they’ve learned how to deal with it or tune it out.

“I mean honestly there aren’t too many games where I can go murder KKK members,” Lordaedonis said. “So that’s a plus for me.”
 
TBH this just gives black gamers the chance to prove their superiority by gunning down hordes of racist white people only playing to be racist

I'd like to see a youtuber do that actually
 
Lordaedonis is used to slurs in online gaming — he’s played plenty of Call of Duty — but Red Dead Online feels different just by nature of what the game allows you to do. Rope is included in your offensive toolkit, and while everyone can be lassoed, the mechanic has a distinctly different feel for black players. Sometimes, Lordaedonis says, rivals will hang him off of cliffs after calling him the n-word. And if they don’t try to re-create hangings, the players will make remarks that make a point of reminding him when the game takes place.

I did similar behavior in vanilla WoW, I'd lure people into water as a druid in Stranglethorn and root them, and not damage them so that the full duration played out a few times and they'd eventually drown. It's less racial(though conveniently adjacent) and more "entertaining new way to fight/affect other players."
 
How to get your black character targeted by 'racists' in a video game:

Step one: Announce to the internet you're doing an 'experiment' any rando can participate in or interfere with.

There are no other steps.
 
Emergent behavior in an MMORPG led to historically appropriate roleplaying, and that's bad?
I mean... in this case, it does kind of suck. Nobody wants to play as "the people everyone shits on" especially when it reflects your real life race, and the people shitting on you also reflect their real life race.

It'd be one thing if everyone involved were a willing participant, but uh... it doesn't always seem that way.
 
So form black posses and mow the whitey down and laugh at them while you're at it. Fucking draw. Come on, McFly! YA YELLA!?

'Swhat I thought; Yellowbelly!
 
Man, it really is cowboy grand theft auto! I mean obviously it always was but now it has the articles to prove it!

It's an online game, get used to shit talk. If you don't like it play the main game. Arthur is best waifu anyways.
 
Has this person been on the internet? So the fuck what. Who cares. They think its funny. The only reason they do it is to get articles like this written. If it wasn't edgy, they wouldn't do it. Because it triggers you, that's why they do it. They know you're going to have a stroke. Its called 'trolling'.

This is also what happens when you constantly call everyone racist and sexist and try to patronize them and hate them. They're just going to throw it back in your face. Also, there's nothing stopping black people from making a KANGZ gang and going white Genocide. Just let people fuck around. Nobody fucking takes this shit seriously because its a game and people just want to fuck around and have fun.

They're not neo-Nazis, they're just fucking shitting on the current 'polite' climate where they can't do anywhere else. The lack of understanding of basic human behavior, knowledge of the internet and just online games itself is mind-boggling with these journalists.
 
People are missing an opportunity here. Everyboy knows that in games of cops and robbers, it's more fun to be robbers. I'm surprised more people aren't roleplaying as run-away slaves.
 
I'm surprised nobody in the game as started up a Trump posse and shoots anyone who's trying to get out of Mexico.
 
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