🐱 People are offended that Miley Cyrus called virginity a ‘social construct’

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In yet another chapter of Miley Cyrus’ long history of being provocative and controversial, the pop singer is most recently under fire for calling virginity a “social construct.”

With her recent “Mother’s Daughter” video and She is Coming EP, Cyrus is continuing to push empowering feminist narratives. Cyrus is clearly trying to continue that narrative on Instagram.

The first post in question, from July 9, shows a still of Cyrus from the “Mother’s Daughter” video with the phrase, “Virginity is a social construct.” Cyrus’ second post features her latex-covered hands around a vagina dentata, or a vagina with teeth, reiterating the phrase.
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The controversy stems from the phrase “virginity is a social construct,” as some feel it is an attack on people who value their virginity.

“Honestly you shouldn’t be posting stuff like that,” Instagram user @anastasiiama wrote. “You should respect people’s choices and respect the fact that you have a young audience too. It’s not okay to shame people that chose to stay virgin.”

Some think Cyrus is rejecting science with her claim.

“That’s like saying puberty or menstration [SIC] is a social contract,” Instagram user @geoffcowan87 wrote. “They’re physical things, they involve physical changes. The strange stigmas people place on them are certainly through social constructs, but virginity itself is not. The ‘value’ we place on it is”

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Others said they felt the posts attacked religious beliefs.

“I mean to some people are religious they should be able to believe and put importance on it because it is to them I think it shouldn’t be used to judge peoples character,” Instagram user @_fighting.evil.by.moonlight_ wrote.

However, some people felt empowered by Cyrus’ post. Instagram user @boovu detailed how they felt the concept of virginity has been used to police women and their bodies.

“Yes and placing a woman’s value based on virginity is a social construct designed by men to belittle and enslaved women,” the user wrote.
 
I don't understand the "so and so is a social construct, ergo we need to get rid of it." Do these fuckaroos expect to benefit from pulling all the threads out of society?
I think you're filling in the second part yourself.

Society is a social construct. That doesn't make it not real, it just means we collectively are the ones who make it. It means it's not externally imposed.

Any status granted by virginity is also purely social.

That's all it means to accept something is a 'social construct'.
 
I think you're filling in the second part yourself.

Society is a social construct. That doesn't make it not real, it just means we collectively are the ones who make it. It means it's not externally imposed.

Any status granted by virginity is also purely social.

That's all it means to accept something is a 'social construct'.

I think you're deleting the second part yourself because you're not a screeching leftist.
 
I think you're filling in the second part yourself.

Society is a social construct. That doesn't make it not real, it just means we collectively are the ones who make it. It means it's not externally imposed.

Any status granted by virginity is also purely social.

That's all it means to accept something is a 'social construct'.

Yeah, but Biology and Environment have always imposed rules onto societies, making them unable to engage in certain activities (at least until modern era technology, central heating, and medicine came along, nerfing much of what Nature used to kill us with.) Climate, geography, STIs, and the different roles that men and women play in the reproductive process - all have a say in making the Rules. Even if we solve all of life's problems, create a society of perfect equality where everybody is happy, and totally make Nature our bitch, it won't last if the resulting society has a less than replacement birthrate and/or a huge drive to import foreigners with vastly different sets of values from the homeland.
 
OK so I read what she said again. She said exactly "Virginity is a social construct".

She didn't say "Therefore it is meaningless" or "Therefore virgins are lame"
She didn't say "BTFO conservatives!"

You guys are projecting so hard over 9000 meme. I mean, she says plenty of other out there stuff, why argue with something she didn't say?

Here, I'll try to meet you halfway. Humans wouldn't be the species we are without all our social constructs. Those constructs, all together, define society. But WE make them, and we do change them over time, because we didn't get everything completely right on the first try.

It's like someone you don't like said "The sky is blue" and you're like "Yeah, just because the sky is blue doesn't mean I suck!". Nobody said it did.
 
She didn't say "Therefore it is meaningless"

Implying it's meaningless, and therefore girls don't need to feel guilty for not having it.
If you think she said it for any other reason, you are retarded.


It isn't any more a social construct than math. It's a word for saying whether or not you've had sex. It is mostly meaningless, but you can still tell how close someone is from their virginity. A slut and an incel are easy to spot is what I'm saying. And a slut is a terrible person to get into a relationship with. So it's not completely meaningless.
 
Implying it's meaningless, and therefore girls don't need to feel guilty for not having it.
If you think she said it for any other reason, you are exceptional.


It isn't any more a social construct than math. It's a word for saying whether or not you've had sex. It is mostly meaningless, but you can still tell how close someone is from their virginity. A slut and an incel are easy to spot is what I'm saying. And a slut is a terrible person to get into a relationship with. So it's not completely meaningless.
Lol so virginity is real for girls, because otherwise they're sluts.

Yeah that's the social construct you dunce, if it we're just talking about the binary "sex had Y/N" you wouldn't have immediately made it about "sluts" and "feeling bad".
 
Lol so virginity is real for girls, because otherwise they're sluts.

Yeah that's the social construct you dunce, if it we're just talking about the binary "sex had Y/N" you wouldn't have immediately made it about "sluts" and "feeling bad".

Why are you putting words in my mouth?
It is a Y/N binary, that I'd say has a grey area in the form of oral.
I'll just quote myself:
It is mostly meaningless, but you can still tell how close someone is from their virginity
That was my point. Normal people are not virgins, while they are also not fucking everyone all of the time.

Anyway, the main thing is she clearly said it to imply that virginity is meaningless. This is a reaction to slut shaming.
That's a big part about her message. You're a moron for denying it.
 
The worst part is the hypocrisy.

They're "sex positive" when it comes to women slutting it up and spreading aids but then wage a Jihad on male sexual fantasies.
Since when?

Do men get slut shamed and threatened with rape for daring to have a sexuality?

I think virginity does have importance. But then idiots throw it away; you can be a virginal flower of a saint but all you need is a mass of incels calling you a slut for having the incorrect blouse on and you're magically a liberal hypergamous whore who deserves to be raped. What';s the point then, in telling anyone they're supposed to be virgin if you're just going to say AWALT and treat someone like shit because of something they've never done?

Whether someone is a virgin is no-one elses business but your own, and maybe your doctor and/or pastor/imam/whatever. It has to be now, because people are acting like spergs about it
 
"Others said they felt the posts attacked religious beliefs."

Good. Religions of all stripes are shit, and should be attacked viciously and with no mercy until they cease to exist. It's one thing to have spiritual beliefs, but having a religion means you're not thinking with your own brains, and that's something that's got to go.
 
Do men get slut shamed and threatened with rape for daring to have a sexuality?
You're talking about the people who are "sex positive" and other buzzwords here. Insane people, ivory tower dwellers, and hollywierd types not normal people. Yes, these people do go nuts about men being straight, liking penetrating people, and hitting on people. No, it isn't representative of the general population as much as a large segment of popculture seems to want it to be. You're thick if you don't see that.

Whether someone is a virgin is no-one elses business but your own, and maybe your doctor and/or pastor/imam/whatever.
Why is it anyone's business if I or anybody else prefer a partner with x amount of sexual partners and have what I think are good reasons for that? To put it in their terms, they're "yucking my yum" here. Very disrespectful
 
Google "Male Gaze"
Male gaze is toxic patriarchy, female gaze is empowered.
You're applying SJW buzz words you found on interwebs to everyone.

Although, fair enough, I was applying incel buzzwords myself.


You're talking about the people who are "sex positive" and other buzzwords here. Insane people, ivory tower dwellers, and hollywierd types not normal people. Yes, these people do go nuts about men being straight, liking penetrating people, and hitting on people. No, it isn't representative of the general population as much as a large segment of popculture seems to want it to be. You're thick if you don't see that.
If you're talking about Miley and some odd celebrity, I suppose.


Why is it anyone's business if I or anybody else prefer a partner with x amount of sexual partners and have what I think are good reasons for that? To put it in their terms, they're "yucking my yum" here. Very disrespectful
Because you were silly enough to voice it, and it reeks of someone who sees a partner as goods that may or not have been used rather than someone who you care about.

If it were "I prefer a virgin because I have certain religious beliefs, or I want someone who has little experience like me" then that's that person's preference. And yes, it would be none of anyone's buisness

The way you put it though.

Add to that you get one, one partner in your life. 99.999999% of the population though are not, and never will be your partner. So what 99.99999% do with their bodies isn't anyone's business. Trouble is you get guys whinging about someone woman down the street calling her a whore for what she wears. For going out for a drink. Like she's a piece of meat, whether meat you don't like because X to be treated as trash or fresh meat to be eaten. (and this isn't just incels, this has been going on before that. Shiek El hilally for example) yet you have a bunch of guys going out being pick up artists, but apparently that's a-ok!

I don't know you, I haven't been following you, I just want this assumption of "whore" or "virgin" to stop. That woman walking down the street? She is neither a whore, a virgin, or a potential partner. She is none of your business. 99.999999% of people are none of your business. I am none of your business, you are none of my business
 
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