Pence Should Remove Trump From Office on Sunday



In what are supposed to be the final days of his presidency, Donald Trump has been discussing invoking martial law to overturn the results of the 2020 election and seizing supposedly fraudulent voting machines that — according to a wild conspiracy theory being pushed by people Trump invited to the Oval Office to discuss the matter — were used to rob him of a second term.

This is merely the most extreme example, so far, of Trump’s post-election behavior, which grows more erratic and dangerous to our democracy by the day. There is a way to stop him, though.

More than 50 years ago, the framers of the 25th Amendment to the Constitution foresaw the possibility of a president’s behavior becoming so unstable that it would prove necessary to have some constitutional mechanism to remove him immediately from office. Section Four of that amendment provides a process for doing so: If the vice-president and the majority of the Cabinet decide that, for whatever reason, the president has become unfit to carry out the powers and duties of the office and they transmit a letter to Congress to that effect, then the vice-president becomes the acting president and remains so unless and until Congress refuses to allow that transfer of power to stand.

Legal scholars who have studied the drafting and adoption of the 25th Amendment recognize that its framers intentionally drafted it to allow Section Four to be used to address a wide range of potential situations — very much including the sorts of circumstances in which the nation finds itself today. While it is true that the amendment was created to deal with non-controversial instances of presidential unfitness, such as a president falling into a coma or being kidnapped, Section Four was made part of the amendment to deal with controversial cases as well: specifically with instances where the president’s unfitness to hold office was contested by the president himself.

Those who drafted and ratified the amendment made clear at the time that they were quite consciously employing general and open-ended language in the amendment’s text, rather than trying to define what circumstances would warrant the use of Section Four, because they concluded wisely that it would be vain to try to anticipate in advance all the circumstances that would require removing a president.

Members of the administration reportedly discussed the possibility of invoking the amendment in the early days of Trump’s presidency, but that possibility has been dismissed as purely theoretical, especially given one obvious problem: To do so, two-thirds of each house of Congress would have to vote to allow the vice-president to continue in the position of acting president. But as we reach the final days of the Trump presidency, this obstacle is about to be removed. The mechanics of the amendment allow the vice-president to remain in the position of acting president for a minimum of 25 days, as long as a simple majority of at least one chamber of Congress is willing to cooperate.

It may seem extremely unlikely that Mike Pence, who up to this point has been one of Trump’s most craven enablers, would even consider taking advantage of this constitutional power. But it’s always possible that, between now and January 20 when Trump’s term expires, the situation may become so extreme that he and eight other Cabinet members may find the modicum of personal courage and moral decency necessary to do the right thing.

Trump would put up a fight, but it wouldn’t matter this late in his presidency. Once Pence has transmitted the letter to Congress that makes him acting president, Trump may contest the vice-president’s actions via a letter of his own. Section Four, however, would give Pence four days to respond to this letter. After Pence did so, the Democrat-controlled House of Representatives could — by simple majority vote — decline to act on the substantive dispute for the remaining 21 days. (Meanwhile, Democrats could filibuster any action in the Senate.) Were it not the end of his term, Trump would return to office after 21 days if Congress failed to act.

This, in effect, means that Pence could become acting president on Sunday, December 27, and would remain in the position for the rest of the current administration’s term in office, as long as House Democrats acceded to the new status quo. For the good of the nation, he should do so this weekend.
 
Even in victory, the left still fears Trump.
Even as a lame duck who's term is set to expire in less than a month, they still desperately want him out of office ASAP.
 
It would be hilarious if Trump was removed and then the finalization of the Electoral College happened just to have enough of the blue states revolt to not let Joe Biden in.

Everybody loses!
 
and seizing supposedly fraudulent voting machines that — according to a wild conspiracy theory being pushed by people Trump invited to the Oval Office to discuss the matter — were used to rob him of a second term.

Funny how it wasn't a 'wild conspiracy theory' when they were claiming the russians hacked voting machines
 
Betcha trump chains himself to the font door of the White House next.


The sad thing is, that's actually believable
 
The seethe when they lose; they seethe when they win.

Are there any conditions under which the Left just shuts up and moves on?
Shrieking and yelling are hardly left wing exclusive. both sides have loud, stupid morons who treat politics like a football match. riot if you win, riot if you lose, fail entirely to understand the game. All we can do is watch and laugh.
 
Shrieking and yelling are hardly left wing exclusive. both sides have loud, stupid morons who treat politics like a football match. riot if you win, riot if you lose, fail entirely to understand the game. All we can do is watch and laugh.
The difference is that one side has the entirety of mainstream media reinforcing the delusions of its morons.
 
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So, barring the Establishment GOP suddenly growing a spine:optimistic: and refusing to accept a blatantly fraudulent election:optimistic::optimistic:(which they almost certainly will not do), Trump will have been successfully deprived of his second term by democrat cheating. Given this, you'd think the liberals and the left would shut the fuck up about the bad orange man already, they got what they wanted after all. Apparently not though, and now I find myself wondering how far into the sham presidency of the dementia patient and the diversity hire we're going to get before the TDS-addled stop whining about "teh evul oarnge diktator".
 
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