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Good question, we're slowly moving into the American model of "I have my damn rights". Firstly, suing is hard and expensive, the trials take years unfortunately for anything. Your child will have graduated the primary school, before law forces the teachers to behave. It's not a lack of judges per se, but lack of judges' assistants. From what I've heard only the judge earns well, the other court workers like for example judge's assistants not really. There is an institution, that controls teachers and regional education, but honestly I have no idea how this works, and why it's not used more often. You should send formal complaints to them, but institutions in Poland don't work smoothly and probably it'd be just as much fucking around as with the court. Everything is slow, when it comes to red tape. But I can't describe it without powerleveling. I've heard of such absurd, that you need a permission to cut down a tree on your own land. And it can take 2-3 weeks to get an answer for a basic documentation. Like a clerk just needs to check 1-3 unconvoluted documents, and you have to wait for the answer up to 3 weeks.
Those stories are from like 00s. Now it's slightly better, teachers have better mentality, but only in bigger cities, if you're a villager, you're fucked. Formal problems more or less persist, maybe there has been some improvement in the past 20 years. Mostly people are becoming more aware of their rights.
But the teachers have terrible mentality. You can only listen to interviews with the best, most engaged teachers, that live in Warsaw, the capital city. They never show a typical teacher. A typical teacher in Poland is either someone, who does absolute bare minimum, or someone who has cluster B personality disorder and takes it out on kids. I can't give too specific examples. The typical situation, that happened to me COUNTLESS times, is that most pupils failed a test/quiz, and then during the next class the teacher started shouting and insulting the pupils. Teachers obviously won't admit it happens. Sometimes they firstly say "there is too much to learn, I can't teach this to you in such short time", and then they shout at you for getting a bad grade. Lately there has been some drama in a school I don't know, that made it to the news. A principal BANNED a high schooler from coming to the school, until the pupil cut his hair. He wasn't a subculture tranny student, just a normal long haired guy. The principal had some charges for being a bad principal or something (nothing drastic), and yet he was a principal nevertheless. This is teachers' mentality. So my point is, you can fight, you can switch schools, and your child will meet the same teachers. Not all teachers are bad, but in my experience decent teachers are at most 5 out 15 per schoolyear.
The teachers earn hardly above minimal wage, sometimes slightly below minimal wage, because they agreed to a "the teacher's card" law, which gives them some privileges. Of course they have some benefits, but benefits are only like 100 złotych or so (30$). Those benefits are for like when the teacher has to drive long way to work, they will give them around 100 złotych monthly for the transport. Government sometimes lies, that teachers can earn up to 10k, which is a decent pay, but this is impossible, because you'd have to take all benefits at once, and max out experience, and you can't realistically do this. Therefore teachers have 0 incentive not too suck, because you won't earn better than your mate, even if you're 10 times better. As a result teachers don't educate themselves, unless the law forces them to pass something, but when there is no law, they will never educate themselves.
Speaking of diabetes, schools typically have a nurse. There are 2 problems. Firstly, apparently said nurse doesn't have all rights, that a nurse should have, so she can't give you proper medical care. Secondly, the nurses aren't employed full time for 40 hours per week, I have no idea why, because schools are open for students from 7 am to 5 pm. So the nurse works 20 hours, sometimes even less, and she's alone, even if the school has several hundred students. Yes, schools that have 600 or more students don't have a full time nurse. So if you're a diabetic, you'd better get sick, only when she's still at school. Yes, healthy children fall down, and they need some basic dressings, and sometimes they get it sometimes they don't. For context starting at grade 7 it's very normal to have 33 classes weekly. So if she's out, and you need help with your diabetes, you have to ask your teacher for help.
Yes long sperging ikr. This is basically how Polish school looks like, and why it can be extremely tough for special needs, especially when there is no awareness.
Those stories are from like 00s. Now it's slightly better, teachers have better mentality, but only in bigger cities, if you're a villager, you're fucked. Formal problems more or less persist, maybe there has been some improvement in the past 20 years. Mostly people are becoming more aware of their rights.
But the teachers have terrible mentality. You can only listen to interviews with the best, most engaged teachers, that live in Warsaw, the capital city. They never show a typical teacher. A typical teacher in Poland is either someone, who does absolute bare minimum, or someone who has cluster B personality disorder and takes it out on kids. I can't give too specific examples. The typical situation, that happened to me COUNTLESS times, is that most pupils failed a test/quiz, and then during the next class the teacher started shouting and insulting the pupils. Teachers obviously won't admit it happens. Sometimes they firstly say "there is too much to learn, I can't teach this to you in such short time", and then they shout at you for getting a bad grade. Lately there has been some drama in a school I don't know, that made it to the news. A principal BANNED a high schooler from coming to the school, until the pupil cut his hair. He wasn't a subculture tranny student, just a normal long haired guy. The principal had some charges for being a bad principal or something (nothing drastic), and yet he was a principal nevertheless. This is teachers' mentality. So my point is, you can fight, you can switch schools, and your child will meet the same teachers. Not all teachers are bad, but in my experience decent teachers are at most 5 out 15 per schoolyear.
The teachers earn hardly above minimal wage, sometimes slightly below minimal wage, because they agreed to a "the teacher's card" law, which gives them some privileges. Of course they have some benefits, but benefits are only like 100 złotych or so (30$). Those benefits are for like when the teacher has to drive long way to work, they will give them around 100 złotych monthly for the transport. Government sometimes lies, that teachers can earn up to 10k, which is a decent pay, but this is impossible, because you'd have to take all benefits at once, and max out experience, and you can't realistically do this. Therefore teachers have 0 incentive not too suck, because you won't earn better than your mate, even if you're 10 times better. As a result teachers don't educate themselves, unless the law forces them to pass something, but when there is no law, they will never educate themselves.
Speaking of diabetes, schools typically have a nurse. There are 2 problems. Firstly, apparently said nurse doesn't have all rights, that a nurse should have, so she can't give you proper medical care. Secondly, the nurses aren't employed full time for 40 hours per week, I have no idea why, because schools are open for students from 7 am to 5 pm. So the nurse works 20 hours, sometimes even less, and she's alone, even if the school has several hundred students. Yes, schools that have 600 or more students don't have a full time nurse. So if you're a diabetic, you'd better get sick, only when she's still at school. Yes, healthy children fall down, and they need some basic dressings, and sometimes they get it sometimes they don't. For context starting at grade 7 it's very normal to have 33 classes weekly. So if she's out, and you need help with your diabetes, you have to ask your teacher for help.
Yes long sperging ikr. This is basically how Polish school looks like, and why it can be extremely tough for special needs, especially when there is no awareness.
