offtopic discussion - this is also a demoided zone

[w.a.m.s.]

I'm not sure they'll be too happy to have to do that with more than one thread. I think we should just exercise self control and ignore penis havers.

Anyway, I'm curious to know my fellow puzzle pieces' thoughts on hormonal birth control/the pill. I've seen a lot of different opinions from various users on this site, but most of them are men, so I don't really put much weight on what they have to say about it.

Had a hormonal IUD in for a little over two years, during which I had intense mood swings, brain fog, and emotional fragility. I don't want to definitively say the hormonal contraception caused those things, because there was some genuinely heavy stuff going on in my life at that time, but everything felt moderately easier to deal with after I got the IUD taken out.

 

[Delirium Trigger]

Birth control pills can be so awesome for women that don't have underlying health conditions.

However, so many doctors are willing to gloss over these underlying conditions and just throw pills, rings, shots, implants, etc and dismiss any concerns you have. I lived with migraines (actual, real migraines with aura and vomiting that lasts for hours, sometimes days) for years and multiple OB/GYNs kept prescribing me hormonal birth control regardless of the known interaction between the two. Migraines have only just now been managed, after nearly a decade of dealing with them. All it took was one doctor that listened to me and referred me to a neurologist that also listened to me. Two pills a day and no more hormonal birth control has me feeling amazing.

 

[Arbiter]

What BP lolcows do you recommend, which lolcow is funny enough to learn about her?

Pixyteri, Venus Angelic, Trisha Paytas, Anisa, Azealia Banks. Most of them are boring now, but they are still worth catching up on because they are girlcow classics. The Projared, Holly, Heidi mess was also very entertaining, although that thread is not in BP technically.

 

[Otterly]

Anyway, I'm curious to know my fellow puzzle pieces' thoughts on hormonal birth control/the pill. I've seen a lot of different opinions from various users on this site, but most of them are men, so I don't really put much weight on what they have to say about it.

Honestly it’s very dependent on the individual. Some women feel better on one and some don’t. I can’t take oral oestrogen so I was stuck with the mini pill and i hated it. After my last kid I just refused to take it any more.

getting a hormonal iud was one of the worst mistakes of my life. made my health problems infinitely worse. i feel like many doctors will pressure women into it as the cure-all for everything.

They really push it don’t they? I tried one once and I hated it. I could feel it all the time, and having it installed was literally agonising. Ive had surgery where the anaesthetic wore off (joy) and the pain rivalled that. They refused to remove it until I went to an all woman gyno place -

I had an out of body experience getting mine in. It was a kind of pain I had never felt before. And it only ever caused issues for me, ripped it out two months later. -10/10, would not recommend.

Yeah I did not like it at all. And they keep pushing them - I’ve had to get quite shitty with male gynos when my first polite ‘no thank you, I have had one previously and it didn’t work for me’ was rebuffed. Like dude I said no. The answer is no.

 

[AnneRipper1010]

I pretended to be a man until I felt comfortable on kiwifarms... My god all I ever did was using male nouns in the Polish only thread... It will prolly end with me being forced to dox my ankles however I gotta warn y'all my ankles are real neat and they gonna make feet fetishists real horny.

Bro your a guy plz no trooning out.

 

[Tram Fan]

Bro your a guy plz no trooning out.

...

I actually stooped trooning out I was pooning kinda when I first joined kf but it was only because Polish internet isn't exactly nice for women and I was worried I wouldn't be listened to if I were open about my gender.

 

[AnneRipper1010]

You're right I'm not listening.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

In my extended/in-law family, the childless relatives outnumber the kids by a fair amount. I am genuinely concerned about what is going to happen to them when we are all old.

(Responding here so I don't derail the MHT.) I think this is one thing many people don't think about at all when deciding not to have kids. The cost of having children is obvious because it's immediate, but the cost of not having them is long-term and not immediately apparent. I'm close with an older childless couple and have had to do things for them that clearly were not my job, but nobody else was going to do them. The husband has zero friends aside from us, and he's seriously ill and being cared for primarily by his wife, who's older than he is. I highly doubt either of them thought of this scenario 50 years ago when having kids or not having them was on the table.

Edit: To be clear, I'm not saying kids exist to take care of their parents when they're old, or that anyone should have kids solely for that reason. It's just something people should factor in and never seem to. Every young person seems to think they'll be independent forever. We've collectively lost the cultural awareness that life has cycles and generations mirror one another.

It's even more concerning now because the type of stimuli young people are exposed to in the modern era is raising their long-term disease risk exponentially. We're going to have childless iPad babies with severe dementia at age 50 who need to be on oxygen because they started vaping industrial amounts of nicotine in high school. And it won't be entirely their own choices that put them there, so we can't just say "well, they deserve it." It's bleak, man.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

Many of them do think about that, it's just not what people are normally comfortable discussing.
The more naive of them believe the state or private sector will take a decent and dignified care of them, the more realistic ones just hope they don't get a massive brain aneurysm and already are thinking about what suicide method will be a 100% safe bet.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

and already are thinking about what suicide method will be a 100% safe bet.

Almost nobody actually does that, though. Everyone thinks they're going to, but when it comes down to it, the will to live is much stronger than we think it is, even when we're old. That, and almost no one reaches the end of a long life with no responsibilities to anyone except themselves. My elderly friend is doing his darndest to smoke himself to death and is clearly deeply depressed, but he has his wife to think about. It's even harder for people his age to access mental health support with every spare penny already being spent on physical health. So he's kind of just trapped in this spiral where he doesn't want to live and can't allow himself to die, either. It's tragic.

Nobody has any clue how complicated life gets until it gets there. It's impossible to fully forsee the consequences of doing things differently than your parents, and their parents, and their parents, until it's actually happening to you.

 

[Tram Fan]

Okay, thankfully I have no experiences in the topic of chemical contraception.
I'm just finished with a book about diabetes type 1 and I just wanted to say I'm sorry for all of you diabetics I knew it was a bad disease, I didn't know it was this bad.

Many of them do think about that, it's just not what people are normally comfortable discussing.
The more naive of them believe the state or private sector will take a decent and dignified care of them, the more realistic ones just hope they don't get a massive brain aneurysm and already are thinking about what suicide method will be a 100% safe bet.

Fun fact, Germans import Polish women (or they used to) to work in the care sector, because they could pay them German minimal wage. The private sector is failing already. Unless they get rid of the minimal wage and start importing poor Asians, just like sandniggers do.


Speaking of suicide, we have close to none discussion about dignity. And I've read the Sanctioned Suicide thread in the community watch, and no, it turns out there is no easy way out, even when you're physically fit. You live up high and wanna jump down? No, your survival instinct will stop you from all drastic methods. And if you're actually sick, it's even worse.
We should talk more about dying with dignity. We should do something between Canada style and no euthanasia style. More sperging tomorrow or whenever.

Almost nobody actually does that, though. Everyone thinks they're going to, but when it comes down to it, the will to live is much stronger than we think it is, even when we're old. That, and almost no one reaches the end of a long life with no responsibilities to anyone except themselves. My elderly friend is doing his darndest to smoke himself to death and is clearly deeply depressed, but he has his wife to think about. It's even harder for people his age to access mental health support with every spare penny already being spent on physical health. So he's kind of just trapped in this spiral where he doesn't want to live and can't allow himself to die, either. It's tragic.

I mean if you hate children, you shouldn't have them, but if you're okay with children, you should have one or two. Raising children is risky. If your child has for example diabetes, they are fucked, at least that's what I've read in a book. Like the teachers wouldn't let the child snack or inject insulin, or would lower their grades for underperforming, because it takes a while to restabilize the blood sugar. And it's just one of the ton of possible problems, that you'd have to deal with. I don't know all the possible things, that could go wrong, even if you're doing your best, to raise your kids right.
Egh I'd like to have a child someday, but my life situation doesn't allow for this, even if I somehow find a decent moid.

 

[Rotting Femcel]

Speaking of suicide, we have close to none discussion about dignity. And I've read the Sanctioned Suicide thread in the community watch, and no, it turns out there is no easy way out, even when you're physically fit. You live up high and wanna jump down? No, your survival instinct will stop you from all drastic methods. And if you're actually sick, it's even worse.

Unfortunately, there are not many places where suicide can be freely discussed as social media companies and governments want the internet to be squeaky clean and sanitized as much as possible. Too many people think it's just jumping off a building or taking a bunch of pills and falling asleep. I wish there were more spaces where people could discuss suicide without actively encouraging it.

 

[Google Drive]

getting a hormonal iud was one of the worst mistakes of my life. made my health problems infinitely worse. i feel like many doctors will pressure women into it as the cure-all for everything.

My old doctor put me on the combo pill when I was 12. I just went off it last year, so I have no idea what health issues were spurred by it. My entire teenage years were medical hell. At the very end [gross, I know] I stopped being able to go no. 2 and they blamed it on hydration. After going off BC I can go just fine. Two whole years of that. Miserable.

 

[Hatecraft]

Anyway, I'm curious to know my fellow puzzle pieces' thoughts on hormonal birth control/the pill. I've seen a lot of different opinions from various users on this site, but most of them are men, so I don't really put much weight on what they have to say about it.

0/10 hated the pill, took it for almost 10 years unfortunately.
Behold, rant incoming.

I was always against taking hormonal birth control because I don't want to artificially fuck with my body unless truly necessary, but at some point I had very irregular periods and I was constantly scared of a possible pregnancy because I was sexually active (using condoms, which I'd rate 7/10). So I briefly tried the rubber ring thing because I hoped it'd be less of a hormonal onslaught on my system, but after taking it for a year or so, I stopped having withdrawal bleedings. I stopped using it and went to the obgyn after not getting my period for 6 months. Thankfully I wasn't sexually active during that time so I wasn't stressed out by it.
I got prescribed... the pill against that. To "balance" my hormonal system, or so I was told. I was supposed to take it for one year but took it for several years after that because of moid-reasons.
I didn't even realize how much it fucked with me *after* I stopped taking it, even being opposed and wary of it before going into it.
- I was hungry all the time and being hungry was such an intense feeling so I couldn't concentrate on anything else, leading to frequent eating and gaining weight. I'm still fucking mad about this to an extreme degree. This point alone made me miserable in so many ways.
- My libido was nonexistent. Like to the point I questioned my identity. I've always been a very sexually curious woman who loves to talk about it with others and learn new things about sexual pleasure etc. And all my interest in this was just.. completely gone. At some point I had a reputation in my social circles where I got called "sex-obsessed" and I wondered where that part of myself had actually gone to. I had to force myself to have any sort of sexual encounter and had difficulty getting my body to respond to anything I had liked before. I was just, completely, utterly, uninterested. A big joy in my life was kind of gone... Thankfully it returned after I stopped taking it. I still mourn the loss of sexual fun I could have had in those years, but I'm so, so glad I feel like "myself" again.
- I was extremely dry constantly, which lead to frequent infections. I got told to just "wash your underwear on a higher setting" and to "wear more skirts to let your crotch breathe" and I tried all kinds of multitudes of remedies (another kind of underwear, washing my underwear on a higher setting, changing tampons to pads, pads to reusable cotton pads, applying creams.. etc. etc.) but NONE of them helped. There where times I got an infection MONTHLY. Guess what. After I stopped taking the shitty pill the constant infections problem vanished into thin air. Huh, so it wasn't my "lack of hygiene" or whatever after all.

Got me a guy that got the snip. Vasectomies I rate 10/10. Fuck the pill, snip the guys.

 

[MerriedxReldnahc]

I lean pretty pro pill, but it's largely because it was so helpful for me at the time I started taking them. I totally get the angle that they fuck with your hormones too much.
I had to wean myself off of pills recently and it's been easier than I expected.
My local women's health clinic was forced to close down because everything in my area is expensive and everyone running the town is retarded, so I ended up being a bit shit out of luck with birth control pills. I’ve found some really good supplements that help along with general lifestyle changes, so I'm very thankful for that.

Spoiler: Period Sperging Ahoy!

I've been taking birth control pills since I was 16 for turbo awful PMS-
I started having periods at 10, then at about 12 I used to get awful symptoms- diarrhea, nausea, crushing leg pain, swimmy head, etc. I’d be in the school nurse’s office crying in pain and she’d be like “hunny its just ur period uwu” and I’d be like “Bitch I think I just shat out a kidney” My cycle was fucked also so it was a nearly twice-monthly affair.
BC fixed me up fine with minimal issues and I ended up being able to work out regularly and cleaned up my diet, which honestly was probably the fix all along. Did you know that Nutella Eggo waffle sandwiches are unhealthy? I know, shocking!

Fast forward to now, at first I was worried about the prospect of going off of the pills. BUT I also had terrible health as a teen, ate like crap and never exercised. Now I'm very healthy and active, and much tougher so even if I have to rawdog a work shift through some crushing leg pain I can do it and *maybe* not strangle a customer.
Bought a bag of Bond cycle care supplement powder to take daily, some iron supplements to take just before and during my period, ate lots of beets cause why not, cut out alcohol for a few days before it started, mentally prepared for the worst.

First pill-less cycle?
Absolute nothingburger.
There was a headache the day before and I was nauseous for a tiny bit on the first day plus some annoying cramps, but it's been very easy. I don't have to worry about calling out sick from my job (that I love!) because Pussy Too Uncooperative.
My cycle is very punctual now, which is suprising because even on the pill it was a little spotty at times.
It's going so well that I'm suspicious and waiting for the other shoe to drop, lol.

I will say I spent that first week off pills horny as all hell, Jesus Christ. I even popped a blood vessel in my eye. I refuse to elaborate.

 

[CaseyTatumm]

Wasn’t really sure where to post this but this seems fitting…recently started drinking tea. I like peppermint, sleepytime and earl grey tea. What else is good? Idk what happened but I’m on a tea kick lol

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

I got diagnosed as a kid and was a fucking mentally ill mess for years because my retard parents didnt want me on the meds. Then when I finally got a prescription I became a normal responsible person after years of being a trainwreck. Chances are your friends got to and still take meds for it, it's fucking ugly without

(Posting my reply here because it's off topic.) I've seen people I love go through this in real time, and the difference between them before and after treatment was night and day. It's a sustained change, too, not just a momentary one. It's like watching someone with no leg get a prosthesis and seeing them walk for the first time. There's joy, but also anger and grief for all the time they lost not knowing what was wrong with them.

Wasn’t really sure where to post this but this seems fitting…recently started drinking tea. I like peppermint, sleepytime and earl grey tea. What else is good? Idk what happened but I’m on a tea kick lol

I like ginger lemon tea with honey, especially when I feel a little under the weather. Jasmine tea is also nice and calming.

 

[𝕺𝖑' 𝕯𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝕱𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖔]

Wasn’t really sure where to post this but this seems fitting…recently started drinking tea. I like peppermint, sleepytime and earl grey tea. What else is good? Idk what happened but I’m on a tea kick lol

I'm big on chai (drinking some rn lmao) I make it the traditional way on the stovetop boiling whole spices and tea though, most of the teabag versions are sad

 

[thyme]

If your child has for example diabetes, they are fucked, at least that's what I've read in a book. Like the teachers wouldn't let the child snack or inject insulin, or would lower their grades for underperforming, because it takes a while to restabilize the blood sugar.

Is that how they treat type 1s in Poland? Here in America it really was mostly the other kids who were dogshit. Teachers and schools are afraid of being sued for stuff like that

 

[sojak]

Anyway, I'm curious to know my fellow puzzle pieces' thoughts on hormonal birth control/the pill. I've seen a lot of different opinions from various users on this site, but most of them are men, so I don't really put much weight on what they have to say about it.

One of my gynecologists tried to set me up with this. i didn't agree. I just dislike the thought of messing with my period. My mom always said they are shit, like I know her experience took place 30 years ago, but still, it seems like a risky business.
But also I recently talked to my friends... One of them had her period for a month (!!!) and I know virtually nothing about taking the pill, so I was astonished. Crazy. I couldn't believe it. Kinda happy about my ex always wearing a condom, he was ackshually a smart man but an asshole nonetheless.