Official Space Station 13 Server

[Large]

I can't really speak to how easy it would be to reintroduce to the code, but readding VR to the code and making a training area with sec gear might help people figure out how to not be walking victims. Giving them too much would probably just empower the shitters and the only other thing I can think of to help the newer sec guys along would be a deputy role or just encouraging the players to talk with one another about how to handle some situations.

VR could theoretically be readded, but performance would suffer.

 

[Teriyaki Snail]

VR could theoretically be readded, but performance would suffer.

What about it caused the performance issues, was it before or after the overhaul to it that made it bloated with a bunch of lavaland bosses in it?

 

[EMP]

I agree that your ban was a bad one. If someone had already ruined the surprise, you can't ruin the surprise twice.

If I said that "Snape kills Dumbledore!" and you replied "Really? Faggot deserves it, lol." You can't really be held accountable for ruining the surprise. The blame instead lies with me, the person that initially revealed the secret. The cat was already out of the bag whether you chose to say anything or not. Basically, what you said had no impact on the round.

The Admin might have wanted to implement a policy by which all IC in OOC incidents are given minimum visibility, and increasing that visibility is a bannable offense. And so by commenting on the IC in OOC, you'd be increasing the visibility making the problem slightly worse. They don't mention that anywhere in your ban reason though, so if that's why they banned you they should have mentioned it.

So yeah, bad ban. Length of ban doesn't matter, it'll be on your record and held against you at some later date. Surprise nobody supported you in this thread. Guess you were being a faggot lol. That's life.

 

[LOWERCASE LETTERS]

Circuits were removed because none of the trannies wanted to maintain it and they kept having to patch incredibly powerful builds people would make.
It was wiremod for ss13.
Things you could do with circuits :
1. Captain seeking missile (seeks out the captains actual specific ref in server memory, you can run but you can't hide from the wrath of science)
2. Wireless emag maachine, no emag required (which is why doors operate on a like 20 character encryption key now rather than 6 because the device people were making could smash the ID of any door in seconds)
3. Glass shard-annihilation cannon (it throws glass shards, all of them)
4. librarian-seeking phobia Activator(Created by me, mentioned earlier in thread, reason librarians fear of snakes was removed.)
5. Machine that spews smoke on demand with no reagents, also is an RGB lightshow and spews beepskys enraged line 3 times per second.
6. Medibots that actually help people in actual medibot format.
7. Medibots that find someone about to crit and then tell them "crawl to medbay you disgusting sack of shit" instead of helping them(self-made)
8. Captain seeking robot, but this time it fires the entire armory at him once inrange
9. Machine that harvests power via inbuilt solar panels from your department lights to generate infinite power for your APC.


God I loved them.

Holy shit, reimplement circuits. If people are shit just punish them. That medibot that insults you is hilarious.

Some shitfucker was using something to imitate my voice on the radio earlier when I was the AI. I could tell he was using a machine of some kind, but no one else could, which greatly confused the crew. Even turning off tcomms couldn't stop him.

Well done, guy.

 

[Antipathy]

There was a guy who tried to blow the supermatter up in three or four different ways when I was playing as AI/borg, and it was very fun countering his attempts by upgrading or re-securing the loop in newer and tougher ways. One engineer got pissed at me because I had upgraded the loop just out of habit and THEN it started failing, but it was actually a changeling trying to blow it up. He was real subtle about it, disabling the gas filters (so that the SM would start bleeding gas and wouldn't cool properly), trying to break the cooling loop (which would cause a clog in the system and heat the gas), (which is why I rerouted it to the upgraded freezers), and eventually so much gas had bled out that I needed to go to ATMOS to get a new can of N2, but because someone was doing turbine my gas was impure and I had to make an impromptu filter unit in the SM chamber itself to clean out the N2 I got.

I think that changeling was the one who destroyed my borg and got 20 genomes by roundend.

I think if I wasn't there, that supermatter would've been toast as the other engineers were running it default, and by my count there are six points on a default supermatter you can use to explode it. Hell, the only reason I figured out what was going on was because I performed a check by going around the entire loop and looking at every filter and valve closely.

 

[Neo-Holstien]

I have written a thesis on ss13, specifically in regards to security. I think the player base decrease we have during no admin hours is the main culprit in why I wrote this doctrine. please leave feedback.

 

[Large]

What about it caused the performance issues, was it before or after the overhaul to it that made it bloated with a bunch of lavaland bosses in it?

Atmos and probably some other heavy systems I don't know about had to check if stuff was happening in VR or not.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Some shitfucker was using something to imitate my voice on the radio earlier when I was the AI. I could tell he was using a machine of some kind, but no one else could, which greatly confused the crew. Even turning off tcomms couldn't stop him.

Well done, guy.

Sounds like a Syndicate Comms Agent. You can sow a lot of chaos as one.

 

[TurdFondler]

FUCK I need to play chef again

 

[Antipathy]

I prefer
Step 1: Kill shitters
Step 2: Chapel Crematorium
Step 3: Get bwoinked
Step 4: Ban appeal

 

[Antipathy]

Spoiler: Fetanyl Floyd vs The Space Dragon

>Be AI
>Time to open and close doors
>Chilling, opening doors, closing doors, telling Command to secure disky, you know how AI be.
>Admemes, apparently some plushies are showing up in Cargo.
>Maintain interest in the situation, keep checking shit every now and then
>George Floyd plushies
>Make a fetanyl joke and go about my AI business of opening and closing doors
>I might be getting rounds mixed up in my head but I think in this round the QM kept trying to break into the Vault and I'd repeatedly let Sec in to beat his ass
>Yes, there was actual Sec this round.
>The plushie mutates into a giant gorilla
>Make priority announcement about fetanyl and bitches and niggers
>Catgirl given to gigantic gorilla George Floyd as sacrificial "white woman".
>Keep derping around, get a borg shell.
>I might be mixing another round up in my head, but I go and swap the supermatter for a more stable setup from default.
>Supermatter starts failing
>No clue what the fuck is going on. Everything looks correct.
>Do a few more loops around the supermatter until I realize someone set the gas filters from "N2" to "Nothing" and no new gas was entering the chamber.
>Fix that up
>Engineer in space hacking at the cooling loop.
>I'm unsure if it broke or not but the gas isn't cooling down. Tell SCI to upgrade the thermomachines and run everything off indoor cooling. Gas starts to cool.
>It's going slow.
>Go over to ATMOS. No N2 cans. No problem. Grab a new N2 can and try to hook it up.
>Because someone was running turbine, some plasma and oxygen got into the mix.
>Jury rig a little filter system, put the N2 in the proper can and the waste in a yellow can.
>I should've spaced that can, but instead I pushed it to a side.
>Supermatter cools down. Head off to see a ling wrecking a cyborg. Try to help as borg, get annihilated.
>Space dragon.
>Yell about the dragon as Cargo orders a shitload of guns.
>It's actually the (now fucking gigantic) George Floyd plushie gorilla that beats the dragon to death.
>A carp grabs a guy in crit and drags him into space, never to be seen again.
>I hear reports of electrical niggers and the changeling is beating the fuck out of everyone. I call shuttle after being ordered to.
>Shuttle arrives, people board. Checking suit sensors, I see the entire Sec department goes down.
>Welp, can't do shit.
>Beep boop fuck niggers and changelings.

 

[Antipathy]

Grenade concepts, unsure if these will work at all.
1:
210 chlorine, 30 sugar
30 phosphorous, 30 potassium, 70 fluorine, 110 chloral hydrate
Superheat beaker #2 to 999. Heat beaker #1 to 5 degrees below sugar caramalizes.

Chlorine Triflouride + Smoke + Chloral Hydrate. Unsure if burning alive wakes people from sleep.


2:
210 chlorine triflouride, 30 water
30 fluorosurfactant, 70 chloral hydrate, 70 Space Lube (fabricate in isolated beaker), 70 fluorosulfuric acid

Unsure if this would work, similar principle as before except now people slip and burn and sleep.

3:
50u gunpowder 50u fluorosurfactant
25u napalm 25u phlogiston 50u water
I saw this one on a video and it blows people up from the inside out.

4:
120 fluorosurfactant, 120 space lube (make lube FIRST)
120 water, 120 space lube
This one works quite well. Unsure if the lube/fluorosurfactant ratio can be optimized, I did 2/1.

5:
50 Iron, 50 fluorosurfactant, 140 Teslium
50 Uranium, 190 Water
Conceptually it would be electrocution + EMP but I am unsure if it works.

6:
90 carbon 90 stable plasma 30 chlorine triflouride, 20 sugar
20 potassium, 20 phosphorous, 110 Chlorine Triflouride, 90 radium.
I never see the dark matter thing used in explosives, this might work well? This is using a metamaterial beaker in each grenade bit, I think. I think I shouldn't use chloral and instead should use more explosives or cyanide but this is what I have in the notes.


7:
1: 20 phosphorous, 30 napalm
2: 10 potassium, 10 sugar, 20 sulphuric acid, 10 stable plasma
This grenade works great. It sets everything on fire and spreads blinding smoke. I used Large beakers and doubled everything to incinerate a shuttle bridge.

 

[Nuns with guns]

I like this server, I really do, but the ammount of shitters is unbearable.

I know a few days ago a wave of bans came in, but people like Rim Tims are allowed to self antag freely, and there are plenty of others that are just plainly griefers, and don't really play until they get antag (they either just stay AFK in a room or go around being annoying, every single fucking round), and when they get antag they murderbone freely. I don't mind the occasional murderboner, but these people just go and find the way to ruin everybody's fun.

As I'm writing this, there's a guy I've called out as a shitter plenty of times before that incinerated everybody and still refuses to call the shuttle. Instead, he's just patrolling and occasionally checking arrivals, to see what new victim he can get. Really, what fun does he get from that? He once got to be my blood brother and refused to cooperate, likely because he's still bitter (and his treatment of my corpse, particularly, goes to show that). I know admins have probably got bored of the server or are busy with holiday stuff, but please take a look at what has been going on as of late.

 

[Gravemind]

I like this server, I really do, but the ammount of shitters is unbearable.

I know a few days ago a wave of bans came in, but people like Rim Tims are allowed to self antag freely, and there are plenty of others that are just plainly griefers, and don't really play until they get antag (they either just stay AFK in a room or go around being annoying, every single fucking round), and when they get antag they murderbone freely. I don't mind the occasional murderboner, but these people just go and find the way to ruin everybody's fun.

As I'm writing this, there's a guy I've called out as a shitter plenty of times before that incinerated everybody and still refuses to call the shuttle. Instead, he's just patrolling and occasionally checking arrivals, to see what new victim he can get. Really, what fun does he get from that? He once got to be my blood brother and refused to cooperate, likely because he's still bitter (and his treatment of my corpse, particularly, goes to show that). I know admins have probably got bored of the server or are busy with holiday stuff, but please take a look at what has been going on as of late.

Welcome to /tg/ 2.0, enjoy your stay.

I know I haven't played in a long while, but, truth be told, I partially expected things to end up like this once Null put the server on the public listings. Unironically seen this exact same thing happen on Hate, Hippie, and /tg/station before. I'm just kind of waiting for things to balance out once again at this point.

 

[Hoff Man]

this whole thread makes the server look bad

good job replacing petulent trannies with vindictive shitposters

 

[Gravemind]

this whole thread makes the server look bad

good job replacing petulent trannies with vindictive shitposters

This is pretty standard affair for an SS13 ban appeals thread.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

The past four rounds have been nothing but shitters fucking things up. /tg/ is literally better. Unless things change I'll probably just play on there instead.

I keep seeing the HOP hand out captain access, blatant metagrudging, the AI not following it's laws, constant self antags. Is this actually going to be changed at any point or are we just gonna play in lowRP shit tier for the forseeable future? This server has no standards of behaviour, and no players that want to try and engage in anything other than 'muh valid'. It's infuriating. kiwistation is the cast off pile station right now where all the people banned from everywhere else ends up.

 

[Gravemind]

The past four rounds have been nothing but shitters fucking things up. /tg/ is literally better. Unless things change I'll probably just play on there instead.

I keep seeing the HOP hand out captain access, blatant metagrudging, the AI not following it's laws, constant self antags. Is this actually going to be changed at any point or are we just gonna play in lowRP shit tier for the forseeable future? This server has no standards of behaviour, and no players that want to try and engage in anything other than 'muh valid'. It's infuriating. kiwistation is the cast off pile station right now where all the people banned from everywhere else ends up.

Which was exactly what was bound to happen when you make the server publicly available. It's inevitable that the permabanned dregs from the other servers are gonna flock to the new place in order to continue shitting things up.

I was gonna write out a much longer, autistic paragraph about the intricacies involved here, but I'll just summarize it instead by reiterating a point I've made before: Managing a server isn't easy and, no matter what the admins do, people are going to get pissed off, either rightfully or otherwise. There's no perfect solution to deal with shitters, especially not in a public server because permabans don't exactly mean shit when people can just hop accounts and change IP addresses.

 

[Antipathy]

I'd say restore circuits but first ban the shitters. People are starting to flee Kiwistation to go back to /tg/.

In a round as Chief Engineer and Blood Brother I decided to detonate the supermatter into a singularity. I had enough gas moles for the singularity and even received the warning message that the critical mass was reached, but when the supermatter detonated, it simply vanished and there was no singularity at all. This really bothered me since that was my entire gimmick for the round.

ROUND ID 891.

I've heard it's because the emitters were on when the supermatter blew up, but that shouldn't stop a black hole. Please look into this, tranny coders and janny coders.

 

[Antipathy]

There's some sort of bug when trying to spawn a singularity, I attempted one (as BB with consent of my BB) and nothing happened. The SM just vanished. No singularity spawned and I'm pissed. There weren't even any admins on to correct this at the time.

I think I'll head back to MRP because of all the shitters, though. There are very consistently more than three times as many self antags as there are actual antags.