Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread - Gorl Tawk's very own DMZ (De-Moidified Zone)

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He used to read daily but kept bitching that things like Tarzan were Too Problematic so he stopped.
Hasn't it occurred to him that it's far more ~problematique~ for him to make you and your mom do everything while he sits on his ass avoiding thought crimes?

I was just having a conversation with someone irl about this growing phenomenon of people who are so concerned with being good people that they actively start becoming bad people. They treat friends and family like shit for having forbidden opinions, harm others or themselves for ideological reasons, neglect their work and relationships, or actively make their neighborhoods uglier with "Free Palestine" graffiti, all so they can achieve some nebulous state of Being a Good Person that doesn't even exist. Or, if it does exist, it has nothing to do with having the correct opinions on world issues and more to do with being a decent human being to the people around you in your real life.

I don't know if this state of being is particular to men, since a lot of women are also Like That, but men as a whole are far too comfortable leaving everything in their lives to be tended to by women while they do Important Man Things like getting into arguments online. It's even more ironic when it's a left-wing man doing it, since this is exactly the type of inequality they profess to be against.

Edit: You should show your dad the YouTube video 7 Ways To Maximize Misery, because it sounds like he's doing most of them. Ngl he sounds depressed, but if it's not an organic brain issue related to age, it's completely his own doing and he needs to change his habits if he doesn't want to end up developing early dementia.
 
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I refuse to ever go full man-hater but I'm getting increasingly aware that most of the men in my family kinda...don't do shit. My step grandpa is basically a sentient chair at this point, hasn't worked in maybe 15 years for various bullshit reasons, and my grandma does all the work while he watches TV all day.

My dad has started down that path due to a severe case of TDS, he quit his job randomly last year and pretty much lives on Facebook and Bluesky now. Eats most of his meals in front of the computer on Facebook. He used to read daily but kept bitching that things like Tarzan were Too Problematic so he stopped. My mom and I do all the housework, are the sole breadwinners, manage all the bills, etc. We assigned him the role of inputting receipts into a spreadsheet (so he can understand that the cost of living in this area is Too Damn High for him to be acting like this) and he let them all pile up on his desk for months on end. He deadass doesn't leave the house for weeks on end and we've nearly ran out of cat food a few times because that's the other errand we put him in charge of. It doesn't help that we live in a small house- his desk is in an un-ignorable location, and he has a mechanical keyboard that can be heard from OUTSIDE. It's making my mom and I really anxious and depressed working so much around someone who DOES FUCKING NOTHING.
Kiwisister, you seem quite astute
So please let my message take root:
Your dad is a curse
Making your life worse
Its damn time to give him the boot!

This behavior of his is completely unacceptable and he is never going to stop so long as he is still provided for. You and your mom genuinely need to tell him that he is not allowed to live with you until he gets a fucking job, kick him out of the house. He would neglect your cats to death if not for you guys intervening in the chore he refuses to do, he is an animal abuser. Kick him out of the house.

He refuses to show either of you basic decency or respect by listening to your concerns and changing his behavior. Kick him out of the house.
It sounds like you and your Mom have been giving him plenty of time an opportunities and even help with trying to change and improving for the better, this has gone on too long. He needs to face consequences or this will never stop. Kick. Him. Out. Of. The. House. NOW.
 
Ngl he sounds depressed, but if it's not an organic brain issue related to age, it's completely his own doing and he needs to change his habits if he doesn't want to end up developing early dementia.
I heavily suspect (and have even suggested to him) that he has OCD, partly because I'm certain that I have it too. We have to heavily watch our behavior and thought patterns because we can get caught in deathloops of negativity. Social justice circles are so overwhelmingly negative and full of fearmongering that it's basically poison. He got like this during COVID also, he was genuinely terrified.
He would neglect your cats to death if not for you guys intervening in the chore he refuses to do, he is an animal abuser. Kick him out of the house.
Honestly I'm extra grouchy at him today (he snored really bad last night so neither my mom or I slept well) so my description was more damning than it needed to be, feeding the cats and cleaning their bowls is one of the chores he actually does do and he does treat them very well. But still, it's frustrating that we've had close calls. Again I think it's an OCD doomerbrain thing that's making it hard for him to leave the house but I'm having a hard time feeling too much sympathy.
 
I heavily suspect (and have even suggested to him) that he has OCD, partly because I'm certain that I have it too. We have to heavily watch our behavior and thought patterns because we can get caught in deathloops of negativity. Social justice circles are so overwhelmingly negative and full of fearmongering that it's basically poison. He got like this during COVID also, he was genuinely terrified.
I guess it's basically a feedback loop where his mind tells him he needs to be engaging with doomer slop, otherwise terrible things will happen, but doing so makes him aware of terrible things happening, which increases his anxiety.

He needs to touch grass and stop rotting his brain on the internet. Even if he weren't engaging with that type of content, being on the computer 24/7 and not working or doing anything productive is doing a number on his mental health. We're animals. We need sun and exercise and to sweat and be productive and interact with others face-to-face, for the sake of our stupid monkey brains that get even stupider if they aren't allowed to do monkey things. It makes sense he went nuts during COVID, since basically nobody was allowed to do any of that stuff. At this point, though, he's actively choosing isolation rather than being forced. I'm not sure what you can do if he just wants to have brain worms and likes the company of said worms better than his family members.
 
"Men's sperm is eternal women are dead eggers at 30" posters on suicide watch
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On the topic of video games. Moids will always move the goal post. Girl gamer only play mobile! What you don't? Then you play non-games like Stardew Valley or Pokémon! What you like the same game as me? Bet you're shit at them! and so on.
Women should just stop giving a shit about men and their opinions regarding women's relationship with video games because men in that
field are constantly bipolar and genuinely do not know what they want. We've seen them constantly do their best metronome impression
where they can't pick whether they want to lament about there not being enough women interested in video games and nerd hobbies
but the next second they freak out if they hear a woman's voice in a shooter game.

Women should absolutely stop trying to prove their "gamer cred" to these men because these outrage tourists genuinely do not give a shit,
they don't want to be proven wrong which is why they keep moving goal posts, they want attention because the only way they can get
attention from women is by saying absolutely out of touch ragebait opinions that will ALWAYS warrant someone responding to them.

Birthrates dip whenever economic times get rough because women are BEING RESPONSIBLE, but men don't ever stop to consider being responsible, they just want want want want want NOW NOW NOW like a toddler.
I absolutely despise the recent surge of men, especially online romanticizing poverty and calling women selfish for not thinking peak
romance and family life is trying to make 1000 dollars last through the whole month.

>"But so many people had families and lots of kids during economic rough times!

Ask yourself how many of these families with multiple kids had a good quality of life, how many of them were able to afford basic necessities such as groceries and clothes? How many of these
children from these families managed to reach adulthood and have childhoods that let them be with their families instead of working 12+ works in some labor factory. But of course, they'll never think about that because these questions and harsh realities shatter the quirky chungus Americana romanticized image of poverty these men crafted in their gallery of delusions.


Males never consider things like rent, work hours and scheduling, logistics, health insurance costs, job insecurity, market fluctuations, saving for the future, etc. the way women do.
And this is exactly why were seeing men crashing out about how everything is expensive and how managing money is stressful. For the first time in recent history men are left at their own devices when it comes to this because prior to modern times usually they would just dump the financial responsibility onto women which lead to them having a baby-level object permanence when it came to seeing how stressful and unstable times are economically. We're also seeing the same reaction with them realizing they will probably be the ones forced to take care of their elderly parents, a responsibility that prior to more recent times they would dump onto their wives.

There has been a recent study showing that women are way more concerned with rising costs more than men, especially child care in USA.
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This is also why I despise the claim that men are more easy going when it comes money and not being concerned with it as much unlike pesky wahmenz.
Are they more easy going or they just don't have to give too much of a shit because they would usually dump the financial responsibility
on women with zero consideration?
 
Also they imagine all the kids will be healthy all the time, cos their failsperm offsprings would 100% sure build their immunity by eating dirt from the ground and such?

I've came across some fb page for parents of Type 1 diabetes children, and guess who are all the commenters, who talk about their experience with having to monitor the blood sugar levels of their kid, so they don't fucking croak or develop serious complications? Here is the treatment free, but how bad it must be in countries where it isn't...?
 
…at least the gooner allegations are no longer focused on a PERIOD TRACKER of all things in that game.





One of them posted this image:

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Funny bc those same types het up about how lame it is that women (supposedly) threaten to withhold their "holes" as a power move also constantly rattle on about the only thing a woman has of worth is her “hole” and therefore using it makes her a worthless whore.

"It's worthless! Lack of it is KILLING ME!"

I refuse to ever go full man-hater but I'm getting increasingly aware that most of the men in my family kinda...don't do shit. My step grandpa is basically a sentient chair at this point, hasn't worked in maybe 15 years for various bullshit reasons, and my grandma does all the work while he watches TV all day.

My dad has started down that path due to a severe case of TDS, he quit his job randomly last year and pretty much lives on Facebook and Bluesky now. Eats most of his meals in front of the computer on Facebook. He used to read daily but kept bitching that things like Tarzan were Too Problematic so he stopped. My mom and I do all the housework, are the sole breadwinners, manage all the bills, etc. We assigned him the role of inputting receipts into a spreadsheet (so he can understand that the cost of living in this area is Too Damn High for him to be acting like this) and he let them all pile up on his desk for months on end. He deadass doesn't leave the house for weeks on end and we've nearly ran out of cat food a few times because that's the other errand we put him in charge of. It doesn't help that we live in a small house- his desk is in an un-ignorable location, and he has a mechanical keyboard that can be heard from OUTSIDE. It's making my mom and I really anxious and depressed working so much around someone who DOES FUCKING NOTHING.
I suppose leaving him is not an option for your mother? I don't encourage giving up on a marriage for nothing, but I also don't think it's right that one person makes everyone else miserable because that person is lost in his own private Idaho. He just up and quit with no thought to the family?

I heavily suspect (and have even suggested to him) that he has OCD, partly because I'm certain that I have it too. We have to heavily watch our behavior and thought patterns because we can get caught in deathloops of negativity. Social justice circles are so overwhelmingly negative and full of fearmongering that it's basically poison. He got like this during COVID also, he was genuinely terrified.
He needs psychological help. Or to be shaken out of whatever anxiety grips him by losing everything.

feeding the cats and cleaning their bowls is one of the chores he actually does do and he does treat them very well. But still, it's frustrating that we've had close calls. Again I think it's an OCD doomerbrain thing that's making it hard for him to leave the house but I'm having a hard time feeling too much sympathy.
Feeding the cats and cleaning their bowls is a chore for a 7-year-old. If he's not intellectually/ developmentally compromised, this is ridiculous. Was he ever normal/ functional?

Sounds like you and your mom have adapted to his decline. At this point you're caretakers. Do you plan to live there for long?
 
I'm gonna drop this MATI gem here so that those of you who wouldn't see the clip otherwise may experience it (approx. 1:08:40 of stream). I find both of these women extremely grating myself, but this seemed thoroughly uncalled for. Presenting without further comment:


 
I'm gonna drop this MATI gem here so that those of you who wouldn't see the clip otherwise may experience it (approx. 1:08:40 of stream). I find both of these women extremely grating myself, but this seemed thoroughly uncalled for. Presenting without further comment:


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Null went down a strange route once he moved to America. More sexist, violent, government-dick sucking and less caring about facts.
 
Null went down a strange route once he moved to America. More sexist, violent, government-dick sucking and less caring about facts.
Yeah, I've noticed that too he's a lot more angry at women these days though, he's not being necessarily a hundred percent direct about it.

Then, again he is living in Florida, that would be enough to drive anyone insane.
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Random rant:

Gay men who use a Woman as a cover so they can seem to have a normal life while getting dicked down on the side behind their wife's back, are fucking evil. If a man is that much of a self hating homosexual, he should just be celibate; don't do that to some poor Woman. It's just so selfish.
 
I refuse to ever go full man-hater but I'm getting increasingly aware that most of the men in my family kinda...don't do shit. My step grandpa is basically a sentient chair at this point, hasn't worked in maybe 15 years for various bullshit reasons, and my grandma does all the work while he watches TV all day.

My dad has started down that path due to a severe case of TDS, he quit his job randomly last year and pretty much lives on Facebook and Bluesky now. Eats most of his meals in front of the computer on Facebook. He used to read daily but kept bitching that things like Tarzan were Too Problematic so he stopped. My mom and I do all the housework, are the sole breadwinners, manage all the bills, etc. We assigned him the role of inputting receipts into a spreadsheet (so he can understand that the cost of living in this area is Too Damn High for him to be acting like this) and he let them all pile up on his desk for months on end. He deadass doesn't leave the house for weeks on end and we've nearly ran out of cat food a few times because that's the other errand we put him in charge of. It doesn't help that we live in a small house- his desk is in an un-ignorable location, and he has a mechanical keyboard that can be heard from OUTSIDE. It's making my mom and I really anxious and depressed working so much around someone who DOES FUCKING NOTHING.

*Edited to Add* I was very grouchy when writing this post and it shows. :( I love my dad but he needs to replace his Leftist doomscrolling with bodybuilding memes or something.
This might be too simplistic, but it sounds like a mental health issue and he needs an intervention where you tell him everything you said here. Was he always like this?
 
I guess women don't need to be mothers anymore since men can be better parents by themselves.
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Ironically using a black man as an example.
what's even more Ironic is this negroid talking about people being "low IQ"
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There's something strange about viewing adult women, that I assume you're attracted to, as no different than children.
 
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There's something strange about viewing adult women, that I assume you're attracted to, as no different than children.
I can't find it with the search function, but I believe there was a screenshot in this thread of online-reactionary writer Zero HP Lovecraft tweeting about how anime was superior to western media because it understood how women's brains worked like children's. (Maybe it was from radblr? I remember he was extolling the chudliness of Dungeon Meshi.) This comparison seems to happen a lot in online men's groups, spoken by men who are ostensibly attracted to women. This post includes troons and lefties; they just frame it as defending the righteousness of school uniform waifus, sexualized moe, and lolicon. Props to the anime club for saying the quiet part out loud.

Anyway,

Woman marries man and takes an undemanding job (or no job) so she can focus on housework/children --> "she's dependent on her husband so she has to accept any decision he makes! woman = child"
Woman marries man and is the breadwinner --> "she doesn't want the responsibility of focusing on children! woman = child"
Woman partners with a man but does not want a family --> "she has commitment issues! bpdemon woman = child"
Woman does not partner with a man --> "she's only focused on funding her self-gratification and not mine propagating her bloodline/her race/the human race! woman = child"
 
Funny bc those same types het up about how lame it is that women (supposedly) threaten to withhold their "holes" as a power move
They always imagine we use sex as a bargaining chip when they just refuse to see that they're the real problem. I had an ex that accused me of withholding sex to try to control him just because I once told him that working all day and being stressed about paying bills while he sat at home getting fat and making the home filthy was killing my libido.
 
He needs psychological help. Or to be shaken out of whatever anxiety grips him by losing everything.
This might be too simplistic, but it sounds like a mental health issue and he needs an intervention where you tell him everything you said here. Was he always like this?
He wasn't like this in the past, my mom feels like he's hitting a mid-life crisis and I think it's partly that plus TDS in general. I'm going to hash out some ideas for getting the housework balanced better at the very least. I also used to volunteer at a wildlife clinic back when I had more free time and I'm considering suggesting that to him, that genuinely might be really helpful. Being bit by angry opossums has a way of grounding you in reality ;)

He's definitely not breaking the record for Most Useless Man in the family though, my step-grandpa just recently got off his ass and built a fence and fixed the front yard after sitting on it for TWENTY-FIVE YEARS. Bro is like our family's own Jack Scalfani.
 
I guess women don't need to be mothers anymore since men can be better parents by themselves.
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Ironically using a black man as an example.
what's even more Ironic is this negroid talking about people being "low IQ"
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There's something strange about viewing adult women, that I assume you're attracted to, as no different than children.
>WOMEN ARE LIKE CHILDREN WHO OPERATE ON IMPULSE AND IRRESPONSIBLE YAAAAAAAAAAAH YOU SHOULDNT
TRUST THEM WITH ANYTHING
>...That's why their ultimate calling should be being responsible and looking after even more vulnerable groups such
as children YAAAAAAAAAH ITS THEIR BIOLOGICAL IMPERATIVE



The more logical and intelligent gender btw
 
My faith in men: REDEEMED 🥰😻😇


My faith in men: DESTROYED 🤡🥀☠️
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⬆️ Man probably says to ⬇️
Woman does not partner with a man --> "she's only focused on funding her self-gratification and not mine propagating her bloodline/her race/the human race! woman = child"

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What else is the mother supposed to do? Comments saying the mother thanked him!

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Moid projects onto Olympian gigachad and writes fanfiction about the married man and the 15 year old girl.

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More fan fiction of the guy getting the 15 y/o girl pregnant with a side of 🐻

Also, you expect to see more women in the comment section bc it’s a handsome guy…why do I see majority men. 🤔

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More “but if I rescued her she would’ve accused me of S.A 😭
And ofc more mother-blaming!

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Main dish is 🐻 with a side of “take that feminism!!!!”

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“A kiss? That’s it?” And a weird porn addicted guy scanning a 15 y/o’s butt that is barely shown in the video.


With all that aside, most of the top comments were very understanding of the girl being exhausted and praising the guy for saving her life. Also a lot of wondering who was filming the whole debacle but I think it’s a a GoPro attached on his kitesail, that’s my theory.!
 
Featured threads having a normal time as usual tonight.

"That e-whore took money from idiot losers who we regularly ridicule and mock on the Farms. For her crimes against these poor lambs, that guy should be allowed to rape and murder her and I wouldn't feel bad about it lol."

Death to Twitch for protecting the Turkroach but suddenly they want to hear all the facts before they condemn Twitch for covering up her complaints? Nigga please LMAO
 
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