Nolan's The Odyssey - Potentially could be epic or an epic flop.

[Nigger Respecter]

Are we sure? Snow White flopped and Disney LAs don't do bad. People all over the world memed the actress hard for being unattractive and annoyingly woke. And nobody liked her or the movie after all the shenanigans involved.

The same is happening with the Odyssey and this movie ain't even for kids. There is a chance people will watch it because it's a Nolan film (do normies even care for that kind of thing?), but it has equal chances to flop after people are mocking it for a black Helen and Ellen being Achilles.

Oppenheimer, a biopic about some asshole no one cares about, grossed just shy of a billion dollars. Because it’s Nolan. Snow White flopped because it was a shameless reboot of a film no one cares about anymore and it was a deeply troubled production all around, including yes the dumb twat that starred in the thing.

For this one, the outrage is all in one online group. No one outside of it cares if Helen is black because they don’t know or give a shit about Helen or how “accurate” an adaptation of a Greek fairy tale is. Even if they don’t like it, they still want to see the latest Nolan picture, as evidenced by how popular the ticket sales have already been, still weeks away from release.

Feel free to hate the movie but to pretend it’s going to flop is pure fantasy

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Oppenheimer, a biopic about some asshole no one cares about, grossed just shy of a billion dollars. Because it’s Nolan. Snow White flopped because it was a shameless reboot of a film no one cares about anymore and it was a deeply troubled production all around, including yes the dumb twat that starred in the thing.

For this one, the outrage is all in one online group. No one outside of it cares if Helen is black because they don’t know or give a shit about Helen or how “accurate” an adaptation of a Greek fairy tale is. Even if they don’t like it, they still want to see the latest Nolan picture, as evidenced by how popular the ticket sales have already been, still weeks away from release.

Feel free to hate the movie but to pretend it’s going to flop is pure fantasy

I'm not saying it's gonna flop, only that there is a chance it could flop and we shouldn't just bet on it be a total hit just for the Nolan label alone.

And FTR, I've seen normies memeing about the racial changes. They might not care, but they know about it. Maybe they will watch it out if curiosity and make it a hit. Don't underestimate the power of shitposting: it won a presidential election.

 

[Screamer_2]

For this one, the outrage is all in one online group.

I know people who aren't online, people who have expressed annoyance over it. I think fatigue over that crap has just been growing more and more mainstream. How much that translates to not going to the movies, I don't know. In general it's harder to get people to go to the movies these days. Throw onto that cost of living and Nolan really hasn't delivered a crowd pleaser in over a decade.

Nolan's brand is of higher quality. Prestige Hollywood as opposed to the goyslop it mainly produces. Yet his last few films have all been disposable films most people will never have the desire to rewatch and if they do. It'll be to try and see if Tenet makes more sense on a second viewing. Not because they loved it and it won't.

This film will cross half a billion, just how far it closes that gap to 1 billion is uncertain. It'll come down to if the film is actually good. I have my reservations, my eye rolls and what have you but the IMAX preview of the Trojan horse sequence was really good. If I see the film in the theatre, it'll solely be down to that preview.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

I mean, it's been forecast to open at $118 million. Granted, those numbers might be off, but it's my experience that these estimates tend to be more conservative and it'll likely open bigger. And it's not really odd since they've been promoting this movie every where.

I'm more curious what the general audience will make of Pooner-Ellen.

 

[Getting Tard Comed Jr]

This movie isn't going to be good. Nolan's best movie was over 20+ years ago now. Tenet was the movie where it was so obvious nobody could tell him no on anything he named his protagonist "Protaganist". It is over for any director when nobody tells them no and they dont have the discipline to say no to themselves.

Oppenheimer made a bil because it was directly tied to Barbie. Guess what, Barbie made a billion too. Barbenhiemer was a brilliant marketing move. This movie doesn't have brilliant marketing to drag it over the finish line.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Also, nobody ever talks about Oppenheimer any more. But people still talks about Barbie.

I haven't seen Tenet, but It's funny that Robert Pattinson said he didn't understand what happened at the end, lmao.

I'm more curious what the general audience will make of Pooner-Ellen.

I'm sure people are gonna laugh and I hope people film the actual reactions once is out.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

This movie isn't going to be good. Nolan's best movie was over 20+ years ago now. Tenet was the movie where it was so obvious nobody could tell him no on anything he named his protagonist "Protaganist". It is over for any director when nobody tells them no and they dont have the discipline to say no to themselves.

Oppenheimer made a bil because it was directly tied to Barbie. Guess what, Barbie made a billion too. Barbenhiemer was a brilliant marketing move. This movie doesn't have brilliant marketing to drag it over the finish line.

It's got Elliot Page memes. That's a kind of marketing.

 

[BubbaRobot887]

I mean, it's been forecast to open at $118 million. Granted, those numbers might be off, but it's my experience that these estimates tend to be more conservative and it'll likely open bigger. And it's not really odd since they've been promoting this movie every where.

I'm more curious what the general audience will make of Pooner-Ellen.

The trouble is we know the movie costs at least $300 million and they must have spent around $200 miilion on marketing, so that means it needs about 1.2 billion to make a proffit, even with the hype and Imax I don't know if it will get there since movies seem to be under proforming this year. I mean the Mario movie only just barely crossed the one billion mark when before release it was predicted to make 1.5 billion based on ticket presales, so the long term predictions were way off on that one.

I honestly have no idea how this movie is going to do but I do expect Nolan's next movie to take a hit and I think in future his movie will be grosses between $300 and $500 million instead of the billion plus they were before Tennant.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Just when I thought I couldn't hate this movie any more.

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The strange part is Michael Caine is still alive.

 

[BubbaRobot887]

The strange part is Michael Caine is still alive.

I know so why not just pay him to read the book?

This is creepy.

 

[deerbeer]

Is it going to be that Emily Wilson translation that is supposed to be really bad?

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

I know so why not just pay him to read the book?

I guess he's licensed his voice, plus he might not be up to reading a text for several hours on end. Voices age too.

 

[BubbaRobot887]

I guess he's licensed his voice, plus he might not be up to reading a text for several hours on end. Voices age too.

If Micheal Caine is getting too old to do audio books that makes me sad.

 

[No-Eyed Square Guy]

There is a chance people will watch it because it's a Nolan film (do normies even care for that kind of thing?)

There's a level where it works. Mid-budget "prestige" director names are reliable sales drivers. Nolan was one of them (quite literally) before he became Spielberg 2.

Spielberg's mature career went up and down in a similar way to Nolan's, until his name stopped working after Ready Player One, which many paid to see and everyone hated.

That's probably the pattern to expect here. Last mistake. But the pre-release campaign is so repulsive, even regular suckers might know to avoid it.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Spielberg's mature career went up and down in a similar way to Nolan's, until his name stopped working after Ready Player One, which many paid to see and everyone hated.

I didn't even know he directed it, and it was such a slop movie. didn't hate it, but it's the kind of movie you don't associate with Spielberg.

I don't consider Nolan a bad director, but the fact he won for Oppenheimer feels like this is the kind of OScar they just wanted them to win, rather than because he truly deserved it.

 

[Screamer_2]

Oppenheimer made a bil because it was directly tied to Barbie. Guess what, Barbie made a billion too. Barbenhiemer was a brilliant marketing move. This movie doesn't have brilliant marketing to drag it over the finish line.

I don't think you can boil Oppenheimer's success down to Barbie. That thing helped build some hype. It mainly boils down to the presentation of an intelligent blockbuster, which mainstream audiences do want, with the spectacle of seeing a really well down and spectacular nuclear explosion. It failed on both counts.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Oppenheimer doesn't feel like the kind of movies that the "masses" would like to watch. The Odyssey, otoh, it's the kind of movie that, years ago, you'd call a "movie event".

 

[Screamer_2]

Oppenheimer doesn't feel like the kind of movies that the "masses" would like to watch. The Odyssey, otoh, it's the kind of movie that, years ago, you'd call a "movie event".

Dumb people would think they're smart and sophisticated to go see Oppenheimer, from the director of Batman.

 

[namelesstacotruck]

I mean, it's been forecast to open at $118 million. Granted, those numbers might be off, but it's my experience that these estimates tend to be more conservative and it'll likely open bigger. And it's not really odd since they've been promoting this movie every where.

I'm more curious what the general audience will make of Pooner-Ellen.

Forecasting is pretty accurate these days tbh. Especially on films like this. Being rated R hurts it some. Not dropping on July 4th was also a interesting choice as people like to go to the movies that weekend. They decided to not fight against Minions which is tracking at 75 to 115 million due to 5 day weekend bullshit. Nolan didnt fear Barbie but fears the minions.

The weekend before it has Moana coming out.

The movie has a complete open 2nd weekend with nothing effectively coming out which is helpful if it gets good word of mouth.

What sucks for it is the movie is destroyed on its 3rd week. Complete death. Spiderman comes out and will own the box office for the rest of the month.

Also Openheimer and Barbie were the "movie theatres are allowed to be a thing again!" To the masses as covid had just ended and those were the first summer hollywood blockbusters put on offer. Just like the tourism industry got revenge travel there was a bit of revenge engagement with movies going on that summer.

Getting fucking 4chan to shill Barbenheimer was also marketing genius and increases reach.

 

[Incecticyder]

Forecasting is pretty accurate these days tbh. Especially on films like this. Being rated R hurts it some.

I feel like such a movie would not be affected by that. Most people know of the Odyssey, have read it as children and know what it is about. R rating means that it will not sugarcoat things. That being said, everything else that goes on with this movie will be its downfall.