I am shocked at the number of gentlesirs who think that being polite is enough to attract a woman. Being polite is just expected. But what gets women interested in you is something interesting about yourself, like a hobby or talent. No one is going to date someone whose sole claim to fame is being nice. That would get boring very quickly.
I think a big issue with the nice guys shit, and even incels, to an extent, is that they are missing a very vital part of themselves--like, a personality or job, hobby, anything like that. And so they fixate on something like having a relationship, or even just having sex, to fill that void. And while it's probably not TV and Movies that puts that in people's heads, the media and society at large is very good at preying on people's fears--fear of being alone, fear of being otherized, fear of missing out or being left out, being victimized, whatever-- and it's very good at showing you what you don't have. Gotta get the next new phone, gotta get a fancy car, you aren't shit unless you have the nicest xyz. Hey check out your buddies on facebook look at all the crazy cool shit they're doing, laughing and having fun with each other, doesnt that look great? These people have never struggled or been alone or lonely or self-loathing or all of whatever problems you have! If you had what they had, you would be like that!
Nothing in the world is guaranteed, nothing is black and white; It's not about being the nicest guy, having the most money, the nicest stuff, giving gifts, having the best job, the most crazy stories or experiences, having the most friends and being the funniest and most interesting or being the best looking -- it's parts and pieces of all of that and it's individual for each person and even each situation. You can know all that, and in your heart of hearts believe it, but I guess because human beings are competitive, or something, they dont want to look at themselves and come up incredibly inferior, they go, well I have this and that, parts of that, surely that adds up and someone HAS to settle for me, I'm not literally Hitler! And they also think you either have to keep swinging all the time, taking every shot, or not try to take shots at all. So it's like self-loathing and bitterness.
This was said earlier in the thread and it's absolutely true:
Loveshies think they're alone, but they're never alone. They're trapped with their horrible, unending dark thoughts every waking moment of their lives.
I've read some article somewhere that said people will actually electrocute themselves rather than have to be alone with their thoughts.
Actually this is what happens if a NiceGuy doesn't learn from his mistakes and DOES find a woman who he thinks actually likes him. He will get a woman that is a mega attention whore that will abuse him and treat him like shit, and then eventually she breaks up with him to suck on the soul of some other poor lad and he starts posting on r/theredpill or something similar.
It's not really abuse if it's your only chance, is it? Dude would kinda deserve it.