New accusations against Rammstein lead singer

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New accusations against Rammstein lead singer​

The abuse allegations against the frontman of the German band Rammstein, Till Lindemann, are expanding. After an Irish woman had already reported being drugged on the sidelines of a Rammstein concert - the band denied - media reported on Friday how women were allegedly recruited to have sex with Lindemann. Because of another case, a publisher already drew consequences.
Online since today, 1:36 p.m. (Update: 5:53 p.m.)

According to reports from NDR and "Süddeutsche Zeitung", several people from the Rammstein frontman's entourage were specifically approached to come to after-show parties organized especially for Lindemann. Often this had happened via Instagram or at the concerts themselves. According to Tagesschau.de, for example, the women had to send photos of themselves in advance, or photos and videos were taken. The women had to dress attractively, friends were not allowed.

One woman reported that it had been clearly communicated to her that access to the concert and after-show party was only available if she was interested in having sexual intercourse with Lindemann. Two women told the media that they had been sexually assaulted. In addition, they had been offered drugs. The management of Rammstein had not commented on the new allegations to the "Süddeutsche Zeitung". A letter from Lindemann's lawyer is available, but it is not allowed to quote from it.

Irishwoman got the accusations rolling
Since the Whitsun weekend, accusations against the band have been circulating. An Irish woman had described on social networks how, on the sidelines of a Rammstein concert in the Lithuanian capital Vilnius on May 22, she had been singled out by employees of the frontman to come backstage during the concert break. There, according to the woman, it should come to sex with Lindemann. When she did not want to, the singer reacted aggressively.

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At the parties, she and other women were given alcohol, and Lindemann also mingled with the young women and gave them tequila. The next day she finally woke up with bruises and bruises all over her body. She could only remember a few things and had symptoms such as nausea and chills.

She is convinced she was drugged. At the same time, she maintained, "Till did NOT touch me. He accepted that I did not want to have sex with him. I never claimed that he raped me."

Several users showed solidarity with the woman. Other people involved in the concert have now confided in her. However, the Irishwoman is disappointed with the police, with whom she said she had spoken a few days after the concert. The band had commented on the allegations on Twitter: "Regarding the allegations circulating on the net about Vilnius, we can exclude that what is alleged has happened in our environment. We are not aware of any official investigations into this."

Backstage with Lindemann
The new accusations continue. "SZ" and NDR spoke with women who were apparently prepared for potential sex with Lindemann or were surprised by what is said to take place backstage. Thus, a then 22-year-old described how she had been contacted by another woman on Instagram in February 2020. They were invited to party with Lindemann backstage. The Rammstein singer then offered her alcohol and eventually went with her to the dressing room, where he closed the door, the woman, who wishes to remain anonymous, is quoted by the "SZ".

"I don't want to say it was rape, because I did consent, but I wasn't obviously happy about what was happening now either. I was also in quite a lot of pain, and he must have noticed that it wasn't easy to make love to me." She had bled afterwards, but didn't want to say it hurt, "because it was just Till Lindemann. After ten minutes he was done and thanked me and said he was better now."

In another case, a then 21-year-old reported lying unconscious on a hotel bed after one of Lindemann's after-show parties. According to her recollections, the singer was lying on top of her when she regained consciousness and asked her if he should stop. She did not know what he should stop with. The frontman then left, and his associates offered the woman drugs. She refused, the woman said.
Chat transcripts support accusations
The two women made their statements anonymously and under oath in front of the camera. Other women also made similar accusations against Lindemann and told how the singer had repeatedly disappeared with various women from the room where the parties took place. NDR and the "Süddeutsche Zeitung" also have chat transcripts and screenshots that would support the accusations, the reports say.

Several women have come forward to Puls24 in recent days and confirmed this practice. At the after-show parties, most of the time only Lindemann was present, the other band members would celebrate separately, they said. Vienna police told Puls24: "With regard to Rammstein concerts in Vienna in recent years, there were no statistical records of any spiking or sexual offenses during or in the vicinity of these concerts." Spiking is when, for example, drugs or knockout drops are secretly mixed into drinks.

Publisher parts ways with Lindemann over porn video
Meanwhile, the German publisher Kiepenheuer & Witsch (KiWi-Verlag) has ended its cooperation with Lindemann. The singer had published two books ("In stillen Nächten" and "100 Gedichte") with the publisher. "With shock we have followed in recent days public accusations against Till Lindemann. Our sympathy and respect goes to the women affected," the publisher said on social networks. However, a porn video that has been circulating on the net for three years is the reason for the separation.

In the course of the current reporting, the publisher had become aware of the pornographic material. In the clip, Lindemann "celebrated sexual violence against women," according to the publisher. The book of poetry "In Stillen Nächten," published by Kiepenheuer & Witsch in 2013, played a role in this. In the video, the book appears alongside brutal sex scenes and is penetrated by the singer.

Although the freedom of art is defended "with full conviction", in this case "the separation between the 'lyrical I' and the author/artist, which we so staunchly defend, is mocked by the author himself". The publisher considers "this a gross breach of trust and a reckless act towards the values we as a publishing house represent." The relationship of trust with Lindemann is "incurably broken".

The publisher indirectly referred to its line of defense from 2020, when the volume "100 Poems," also published by Kiepenheuer & Witsch, had been sharply criticized for rape fantasies in the poem "Wenn du schläfst." The publisher had come to Lindemann's defense at the time: "The moral outrage over the text of this poem is based on a confusion of the fictional speaker, the so-called 'lyrical I,' with the author Till Lindemann."

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Ahhh, far left people espousing how good they are and how ebil le racists and nazis are fails to pass the purity test.
Silly dipshits. They never realized that the purity tests never stop, and eventually they just find increasingly more pathetic people to test against until they fail.
It is sort of disgusting when you consider the whole Anti-Deutsch (anti-German) movement, something that they try to export. Being German is so horrible because of the Lolacaust that we have no right to exist and shouldn't and none of us should have kids and we should suffer with our guilt till the day we off ourselves. Like nigger, genocide is a huge part of most successful society's histories. Not that it makes it right, but crack open the fucking Old Testament and you will see The Chosen People decimating whole tribes. I don't get the vibe that Rammstein is necessarily pro-Israel, but a lot of Anti-Deutschers are because they have to endlessly flagellate themselves for something they had nothing to do with. A small number are actually pro-American as long as America supports Israel for some real keks.
 
Anybody who's ever seen one photo of a Rammstein concert can tell that those guys are deviant as all hell, even the blind can spot that out. But if it's rape we're talking about....you'd think that accusations like these would have come out a lot earlier like when #metoo was taking out people with the highest of profiles. And not because the accusers could lie about it and get away with it (which they could have and some did), but because accusations with any kernels of truth were being listened to with all the seriousness the public could muster. There were stories of rape events where the victims were forced to remain quiet about it because the perpetrators were too influential to go down for it, the #metoo years removed that and everyone with a story was given the podium. Now that people realized "oh well what do you know, women can cry wolf about that", the whole "believe women" angle is no longer effective. Plus, accusations against celebrities happen all the time. Reminds me of the Marilyn Manson accusations....didn't the 'victim' change course and claim she was pressured to make the claim against him?

Feel free to shit on Rammstein for being the way they are, they're probably into that. I'm just saying, if I jumped into a cage full of hungry tigers and got mauled, you wouldn't blame the tigers.
 
Ah, so they're GWAR afficionados eh? I knew I liked Rammstein for a reason (beyond the good music).
On the subject of GWAR, their shows are always worth attending. They're still funny, they still enjoying making fun of everyone, and they cost the same as other shows but with much better and messier theatrics. Make sure to go dressed in white, you won't leave that way :)

When they came out with Dickie Duncan with the communist sickle & hammer on him like a brand logo I lost my shit along with the stuff on the screens

Here's a show from that tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvKUZsnzr9w

It's hard to believe that all of this is for $20-$40 tickets. GWAR is really unfairly maligned and people who bitch about GWAR are on the tier of people that think other people actually believe pro-wrestling is real. You really have to see GWAR before you die, it's not super high production values stuff but they go above and beyond for the price of admission.
 
I guess Till wasn't lying when he said "I can't get laid in Germany" :/
 
Eh, I'm not taking down my posters until someone comes up with something better than "a whore got invited to a party to fuck Lindemann and got fucked by Lindemann." Fuck whores.
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UPDATE
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Further research incriminates Rammstein

Der Spiegel" spoke with "about two dozen women" who support the previous accusations. A festival in Québec refused to help recruit women

June 9, 2023, 18:13

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"The sperm gun remained in the depot this time," reports "Der Spiegel" from the Rammstein concert in Munich on June 8. The article describes the paradox between celebratory mood and uncertainty among the fans. The "Süddeutsche Zeitung" (SZ) reports that Alena Makeeva, the employee of frontman Till Lindemann who was fired at the beginning of the week and whose job had been to make contact with attractive young women, was spotted at the concert in Munich after all. Although there was no "Row Zero", but an aftershow party did not let the band take.

Regarding the allegations of systematic feeding of women for sexual contacts with front singer Lindemann and the alleged use of knockout drops, so far only the Irish Shelby Lynn has filed a complaint in Lithuania, as reported by the "SZ". No charges have been filed in Germany or Austria.

Further accusations, some under oath
Meanwhile, "Der Spiegel" is already gathering publicized and new voices on the subject, supporting the narratives of women like Shelby Lynn and influencer Kayla Shyx. Of the "around two dozen people" that "Spiegel" spoke to, some also "came from Rammstein's closer working environment. Among them are many women who report their own experiences with the band and especially with Till Lindemann." Many would have videos and chat messages as evidence, and some would have signed affidavits, meaning they would be liable to prosecution in court if they lied.

Kayla Shyx's tale of a systematic recruitment of young women for singer Till Lindemann, for example, supports Sophie W., who has gone public with her real name. The reason: "I want to contribute to the girls being believed." From late 2018 to early 2020, she was part of Rammstein's inner circle, as her boyfriend at the time worked for Rammstein and Lindemann's solo projects. Not only did she have access to band members, but she also had access to almost all of the cordoned-off areas at concerts.

"W. said that at every Rammstein show there was a place under the stage floor that could only be seen from backstage. A construct made of metal bars that was suspended with tarps so that even crew members couldn't see what was happening inside, he said. W. heard from her boyfriend at the time that Till Lindemann had sex there with young women from the pre-party before or during the show - in short breaks, for example during the DJ break. There are apparently video recordings of at least one of these encounters, which Lindemann showed during his tour with the solo project 'Lindemann' crazy as part of his stage show," reports the "Spiegel". According to information available to the STANDARD, these could be recordings made during a concert in Vienna's Ernst Happel Stadium in 2019.

Band had known about it
The women selected for Lindemann's private after-show party were described by band and crew members as a "slut parade": "The women who weren't selected stayed at the regular party afterwards and could be hit on by crew members, 'leftover fucking' was the internal word."

On one occasion, W. had sneaked into the afterparty, he said. "In the small room, massive amounts of 'Doctor Dick Vodka' were offered, a liquor marketed by Lindemann. There was a vending machine, which was not connected, and a bar table somewhere. Then a second door flew open and Lindemann came in. According to W.'s description, he smashed the glass of the drinks machine shortly after entering and knocked over the bar table." W. had also witnessed an argument with guitarist Kruspe after a concert in Munich in 2019. "They would have chosen the same girl for sex and yelled at each other, the approximately 20-year-old woman had appeared distraught."

Internationally, the case has triggered initial reactions. Canadian radio station iHeart radio reported the Festival d'été de Québec (FEQ) had been asked by the band in 2010 to recruit young girls, which it refused. Meanwhile, no one had brought anything to report in 2010 and in 2016, when Rammstein performed again at the festival.

Olaf Scholz follows the debate intensively
Chancellor Olaf Scholz (SPD) is also following the debate "intensively," as government spokesman Steffen Hebestreit said at a press conference on Friday when asked. He spoke of accusations "that belong to be clarified." When asked further whether Scholz thought changes in the music industry were necessary, the spokesman said that the debate about this was to be conducted in the industry.

In Switzerland, there were also calls for the cancellation of the Rammstein concerts at the Stade de Suisse in Bern on June 17 and 18. Corresponding demands came, for example, from Juso Switzerland, the feminist strike collective and SP cantonal councilor and police unionist Patrick Portmann. The organizer of the concerts in Switzerland, Gadget abc, pointed out that so far neither the band nor a band member had been proven to have committed criminal acts. Against this background, there is no legal basis for a concert cancellation vis-à-vis contractual partners.

The accusations were rejected by Till Lindemann's law firm. The presumption of innocence applies. (red, APA, 9.6.2023)
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You've got a pussy! I have a dick-eh! So what's the problem? Let's do it, quick!
- "Pussy", by Rammstein


Lol, Till Lindemann would infamously join in on Trent Reznor & Marilyn Manson's sex orgies in the late 90s following his divorce. This is old news to any of R+'s fans.
Of course he's a sex pest, it comes with being a rockstar. To this day, he still scours his nightly entertainment following his gigs, as do other band members.
Following their performance in Boston, a co-worker's friend got invited by some security personnel to meet the band after the show. She would've accepted but she knew what they meant and she was married and had a 9 month old at home waiting. "5 years ago I would've gladly accepted, but not anymore. And I can't trust myself to not falter if I agree to go backstage."


That said, I hope the groupies get nothing. You willingly wanted to be his sex object for the night. Get fucked, again.

I don't get the vibe that Rammstein is necessarily pro-Israel
They're not. They're very left-wing, especially their keyboardist who pretty much hates Germanic blood.
But because they find fun in being provocative, they've been accused of being extreme right-wing fascist lovers by Fagtifa in Germany due to their Nazi-like imagery in the late 90s (when every hard rock band was doing it for shock points) as well as their mockery of trannies 20 years ago.

Should you go to a Rammstein concert?
Yes. Even if you don't like their music. Their shows are some of the best in the world of music.
 
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Yes. The vast majority of their songs have a strong Globohomo bent. They wrote a song about how America sucks, how Germany sucks, how being far left is awesome, about having your little brother jerk you off, sticking barbed wire in your urethra. One of the members, said in serveral articles he unironically hates America, hates American fans, even though they really made the band famous by and large. It wasn't Till, but I think it was a the keyboardist fag. It is funny how often the band gets associated with the right by retard school shooters and dumb journos and such. They are anything but.

As to the article itself, it seems almost written as an advertisement to get more groupies to fuck the band.
- "Amerika" is more about their hate for American globalization. Remember, this was back in 2004 when the left still hated globalization. The music video that shows it's despise for McDonald's in Africa and Disney in Taiwan is now called right-wing trash by neoliberals because it criticizes a one-world nation.

- Till doesn't hate Germany, in fact his favorite place in the world is his ranch in a little German town in the countryside. He loves Germany, but despises Germany's nazi era. The one who wholeheartedly hates Austrian-Germanics is Christian Lorenz, their keyboardist. And the reason he despises American fans is because they made the trope of linking R+ with school shooters popular.

- Eh, Rammstein would've been popular without America. Despite having no money, Mexicans fucking throw away their live savings to attend their shows and are arguably the most famous rock band in the country, and R+ know this and thus why they (the fans) always get preferential treatment in live gigs with longer setlists and bigger shows. And this was even back when Rammstein were nobodies in the Americas so it preludes the woke era of "muh minorities". R+ were already beloved in Central and South America before R+ even toured the "Family Values" tours of the late 90s in the US. Their guitarist Richard had tried multiple times to masquerade as a vagrant musician in Hispanic countries and it takes mere seconds for him to get outed as the founder of Rammstein and you'll see even grandmas who couldn't tell you who Korn is whip out their phones and record themselves with Kruspe. I don't think their US fanbase is as rabid as compared outside and overseas.

- They hate being seen as right-leaning so much that the entire reason "Links 2-3-4" exists is for them to declare their heart (and beliefs) lay on the left. It's very funny to see left-extremists despise one of their biggest advocates simply because R+ hated globohomo in the 90s and 00s.

Have any of you ever seen a bitch who's into Rammstein? You'd have to drug me to fuck any of them.
Adriana Lima in the 00s was a R+ fan. If you needed to be drugged to fuck prime Adriana Lima, idk what to tell ya.
 
The only thing I heard about it that sounds rapey was the claim of drugging the participants unknowingly.
But who knows if that actually happened. AFAIK it was only a suspicion voiced by one of the supposed victims.
(Who admits that he asked her if he should stop btw, although she claims to have passed out after being asked)

Somehow the media is going bonkers over the dude who is known for going out with his BDSM gimp on a leash when fucking women backstage, go figure.
 
I hope these groupie skanks lose. So tired of women refusing to accept responsibility for their poor decision making. Having sex and regretting it years later is not rape. Bring back coverture if they can’t handle the idea of how consent actually works.
 
Till has made several videos of himself being a skeezy, abusive, sexual degenerate. It is his outward facing image. Some women in the Platz Eins porn straight up look like they dont want to be there. Till has literally showed up to events walking latex covered woman on leashes like dogs. None of this surprises me one bit and I can't believe it didn't happen sooner.
 
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I think this one may be BS

The Rammenstein guys are druggie retards but i dont think they are the rapey kind

I could be wrong
 
UPDATE:​
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Record company suspends cooperation​

The accusations against lead singer Till Lindemann have further consequences for the German band Rammstein. The record company Universal Music is distancing itself from the band and suspending cooperation for the time being. A "full clarification" of the allegations against the Rammstein singer is necessary, it said in a statement Friday.

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"The accusations against Till Lindemann have shocked us, and we have the greatest respect for the women who have spoken out so courageously in public in this case," the record company told "Der Spiegel." It said it was convinced that clarifying the allegations was "absolutely necessary." "After the allegations became known, we have suspended marketing and promotional activities for the band's recordings until further notice."

Several women had made serious accusations against Lindemann in recent weeks. They described to Norddeutscher Rundfunk and the "Süddeutsche Zeitung" how young women were apparently recruited specifically for sex with the singer. They are said to have been specifically approached at concerts and Instagram and invited to after-show parties organized especially for Lindemann.

Investigations initiated against Lindemann
On Wednesday evening, the Berlin public prosecutor's office confirmed that Lindemann was being investigated for "allegations in the area of sexual offenses and the distribution of narcotics." The investigations were initiated according to data of a spokeswoman due to several criminal complaints of persons not involved in the possible act as well as ex officio. Further information could not be given at present, it was said.

According to the "Tagesspiegel", the focus should be on the suspicion under Section 177 of the Criminal Code. This states that "whoever, against the apparent will of another person, performs sexual acts on that person or has them performed by him or her, or causes that person to perform or tolerate sexual acts on or by a third party" is liable to a prison sentence of six months to five years.

Rammstein sees itself prejudged
A statement from the entire band had said after the initial reports that the accusations had hit the band hard, and they were taking them extremely seriously. "To our fans we say: It is important to us that you feel comfortable and safe at our shows - in front of and behind the stage."

It went on to say, "We condemn any kind of assault and ask you: Do not engage in public pre-judgment of any kind toward those who have made accusations. They have a right to their view of things." The band, however, also has a right - namely, not to be prejudged either.

Moreover, Rammstein had commissioned its own investigation into the accusations. Witness statements are said to be already available. A law firm is questioning employees of the crew, the security team, the band and possibly also affected women. Rammstein also parted ways with the female employee who had been involved in backstage activities up to that point.

Band announced legal steps
Lindemann and his band have so far vehemently denied any accusation and last week announced legal action. It had been repeatedly claimed that "women had been drugged at Rammstein concerts with the help of knockout drops or alcohol to enable our client to perform sexual acts on them. These allegations are untrue without exception," Lindemann's law firm said.

Rammstein's legal action is also said to affect numerous media outlets that have picked up on the allegations made in the sense of inadmissible suspicion reporting without counter-investigation, thereby violating the requirement of objective reporting. "Insofar as the principles of suspicious activity reporting have been violated, we will also take immediate legal action against this on behalf of our client," Lindemann's lawyers said.​
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