New accusations against Rammstein lead singer

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New accusations against Rammstein lead singer​

The abuse allegations against the frontman of the German band Rammstein, Till Lindemann, are expanding. After an Irish woman had already reported being drugged on the sidelines of a Rammstein concert - the band denied - media reported on Friday how women were allegedly recruited to have sex with Lindemann. Because of another case, a publisher already drew consequences.
Online since today, 1:36 p.m. (Update: 5:53 p.m.)

According to reports from NDR and "Süddeutsche Zeitung", several people from the Rammstein frontman's entourage were specifically approached to come to after-show parties organized especially for Lindemann. Often this had happened via Instagram or at the concerts themselves. According to Tagesschau.de, for example, the women had to send photos of themselves in advance, or photos and videos were taken. The women had to dress attractively, friends were not allowed.

One woman reported that it had been clearly communicated to her that access to the concert and after-show party was only available if she was interested in having sexual intercourse with Lindemann. Two women told the media that they had been sexually assaulted. In addition, they had been offered drugs. The management of Rammstein had not commented on the new allegations to the "Süddeutsche Zeitung". A letter from Lindemann's lawyer is available, but it is not allowed to quote from it.

Irishwoman got the accusations rolling
Since the Whitsun weekend, accusations against the band have been circulating. An Irish woman had described on social networks how, on the sidelines of a Rammstein concert in the Lithuanian capital Vilnius on May 22, she had been singled out by employees of the frontman to come backstage during the concert break. There, according to the woman, it should come to sex with Lindemann. When she did not want to, the singer reacted aggressively.

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At the parties, she and other women were given alcohol, and Lindemann also mingled with the young women and gave them tequila. The next day she finally woke up with bruises and bruises all over her body. She could only remember a few things and had symptoms such as nausea and chills.

She is convinced she was drugged. At the same time, she maintained, "Till did NOT touch me. He accepted that I did not want to have sex with him. I never claimed that he raped me."

Several users showed solidarity with the woman. Other people involved in the concert have now confided in her. However, the Irishwoman is disappointed with the police, with whom she said she had spoken a few days after the concert. The band had commented on the allegations on Twitter: "Regarding the allegations circulating on the net about Vilnius, we can exclude that what is alleged has happened in our environment. We are not aware of any official investigations into this."

Backstage with Lindemann
The new accusations continue. "SZ" and NDR spoke with women who were apparently prepared for potential sex with Lindemann or were surprised by what is said to take place backstage. Thus, a then 22-year-old described how she had been contacted by another woman on Instagram in February 2020. They were invited to party with Lindemann backstage. The Rammstein singer then offered her alcohol and eventually went with her to the dressing room, where he closed the door, the woman, who wishes to remain anonymous, is quoted by the "SZ".

"I don't want to say it was rape, because I did consent, but I wasn't obviously happy about what was happening now either. I was also in quite a lot of pain, and he must have noticed that it wasn't easy to make love to me." She had bled afterwards, but didn't want to say it hurt, "because it was just Till Lindemann. After ten minutes he was done and thanked me and said he was better now."

In another case, a then 21-year-old reported lying unconscious on a hotel bed after one of Lindemann's after-show parties. According to her recollections, the singer was lying on top of her when she regained consciousness and asked her if he should stop. She did not know what he should stop with. The frontman then left, and his associates offered the woman drugs. She refused, the woman said.
Chat transcripts support accusations
The two women made their statements anonymously and under oath in front of the camera. Other women also made similar accusations against Lindemann and told how the singer had repeatedly disappeared with various women from the room where the parties took place. NDR and the "Süddeutsche Zeitung" also have chat transcripts and screenshots that would support the accusations, the reports say.

Several women have come forward to Puls24 in recent days and confirmed this practice. At the after-show parties, most of the time only Lindemann was present, the other band members would celebrate separately, they said. Vienna police told Puls24: "With regard to Rammstein concerts in Vienna in recent years, there were no statistical records of any spiking or sexual offenses during or in the vicinity of these concerts." Spiking is when, for example, drugs or knockout drops are secretly mixed into drinks.

Publisher parts ways with Lindemann over porn video
Meanwhile, the German publisher Kiepenheuer & Witsch (KiWi-Verlag) has ended its cooperation with Lindemann. The singer had published two books ("In stillen Nächten" and "100 Gedichte") with the publisher. "With shock we have followed in recent days public accusations against Till Lindemann. Our sympathy and respect goes to the women affected," the publisher said on social networks. However, a porn video that has been circulating on the net for three years is the reason for the separation.

In the course of the current reporting, the publisher had become aware of the pornographic material. In the clip, Lindemann "celebrated sexual violence against women," according to the publisher. The book of poetry "In Stillen Nächten," published by Kiepenheuer & Witsch in 2013, played a role in this. In the video, the book appears alongside brutal sex scenes and is penetrated by the singer.

Although the freedom of art is defended "with full conviction", in this case "the separation between the 'lyrical I' and the author/artist, which we so staunchly defend, is mocked by the author himself". The publisher considers "this a gross breach of trust and a reckless act towards the values we as a publishing house represent." The relationship of trust with Lindemann is "incurably broken".

The publisher indirectly referred to its line of defense from 2020, when the volume "100 Poems," also published by Kiepenheuer & Witsch, had been sharply criticized for rape fantasies in the poem "Wenn du schläfst." The publisher had come to Lindemann's defense at the time: "The moral outrage over the text of this poem is based on a confusion of the fictional speaker, the so-called 'lyrical I,' with the author Till Lindemann."

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Anybody who hasn't, should seek out "Cocksucker Blues" (1972), a Rollings Stones (semi) banned tour documentary. It will make Karl Hungus Till Lindemann here seem like an angel. And it is pretty entertaining too.
 
Oh singer fucked groupies who were told that they'd have to fuck the singer if they wanted to go backstage?

Christ, take some fucking responsibility, you worthless cunts.
 
It was consensual, but she didn't like it? What's the fucking story?

He has a bookworm in his pants.
God damnit, that's going to be the next song.
I
heavy guitar churning
HAVE
heavy guitar churning
A WORM
heavy guitar churning
IN MY PANTS
Guitar and drums go nuts

essentially, it's Ich Will again. It is ripped apart in the press, but the band stands by it. And Till insists it is not about his penis.
 
I can clarify the situation.
Ladies. Please hear me out.
If a famous artists invites you to do anything, they simply want to fuck you. If you don't wanna fuck, they'll try to pressure you somehow. And yes, you will be offered drugs that you have no idea what they are, and since you were retarded enough to go backstage even though allegedly you don't wanna have sex, you'll take the drugs and get raped. And you will leave without evidence, since you're a dumb bimbo too. And you will wake up 20 years later when you're no longer young&hot and start seething and making accusations.
Ladies, don't be that ho. If you go to their hotel room, backstage, afterparty - you go there to fuck. You're not special. There are thousands like you. Go have sex if you want to. Or stay the hell out.
 
Update:​
ACCUSATIONS AGAINST RAMMSTEIN

After-show party with Rammstein: Influencer Kayla Shyx describes her experience​

The Youtuber tells of a Rammstein concert in 2022 and of other women's experiences - and raises further serious accusations against the band's environment and Till Lindemann
June 6 2023, 12:00

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Kayla Shyx is a successful Youtuber. Her latest video about Rammstein has been seen by around 700,000 people so far. IMAGO/Marja

Youtube star and influencer Kayla Shyx spoke out in a video on Monday about the accusations against Rammstein singer Till Lindemann and the band's entourage. The 21-year-old was herself at a Rammstein concert a year ago, on June 4, 2022, and recounts experiences that not only resemble the previous accusations, but go far beyond them. According to the accounts of Shyx and other women she spoke with at the concert and online, a staff member would cast rows and rows of young women for pre- and after-show parties. At an after-show party, where Shyx herself was invited, she saw many women who had been invited solely for sex with Lindemann, which they had not been told in advance.

Kayla Shyx attended the Rammstein concert at the Olympiastadion in Berlin on June 4 with another young woman. The two had tickets for the front rows, also known as "Row Zero." In the video, Shyx details how she and her friend were approached by a Rammstein employee and invited to the after-show party. She assumed that it was a usual after-show party. There had also been one, with many celebrities and structured Corona tests. However, she and several other young women were "escorted" into another room - past the party with the celebrities. They were taken to a smaller room.

Cell phones gone
According to descriptions by the Youtuber and amateur actress ("Mädchen-WG"), she only gradually realized what was going on. One does not expect that, says Shyx. She describes a situation in which you simply go to a concert, are happy about an invitation to an after-show party, and suddenly strange things happened that she could only gradually classify. One moment of foreboding, she said, was when all the women who were brought to this separate party had to hand over their cell phones, "for security reasons" they were told. The later realization that she had "only been brought here because he might be up for fucking me" had shaken her. By "him" Lindemann was meant. All of the women present were estimated to be under thirty, whether minors were present was not checked, for example, with IDs of employees.

The Rammstein employee who had invited her had treated her very friendly all the time and offered her drinks - especially when Shyx announced that she wanted to leave. When the women finally left, one was no longer friendly, they had been told that they could not go to the "normal" after-show party now either.

Another woman, Shyx reports, told her that evening that she had been asked in a club if she wanted Rammstein tickets. She had also been at the pre-party for this concert, where young women had been collected and Till Lindemann had chosen a woman with whom he had oral sex under the stage during the concert, between songs. Whether this woman was told in advance what she had been invited for, she does not know, says Shyx.

Many would have known
Kayla Shyx stresses in the video that she had wanted to do it publicly before - but had been advised against it by various people, including her management. "Don't do it," she was told again and again. She was shocked that in the course of her own experiences, chats and conversations with countless women, they kept saying that they knew about this practice anyway, about "Till's Girls". Shyx criticizes that apparently many had known about it for a long time, while young women were further brought into a situation in which they were completely taken by surprise and supplied with alcohol and also other drugs. Shyx also includes chat histories with invitations to concerts, for example, in her video. The women were put in a situation from which it was difficult for them to get out. According to Shyx, she received many messages from other women who reported experiences similar to Shelby L.'s initial accusations.

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Massive descriptions of violence are among them, as well as complete ignorance of what had happened to them during such parties or in Lindemann's hotel room - they could not remember anything. Shelby L., who said that she had probably been given drugs unnoticed, also says this.

Rammstein first reacted briefly to the first accusations on Twitter:

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A few days and more accusations later, the band spoke out in more detail on Instagram:

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Starting Wednesday, four Rammstein concerts will take place in Munich. According to a report in the "Süddeutsche Zeitung," there will be neither a "Row Zero" nor backstage parties at the concerts between June 7 and 11 at the Olympic Stadium in Munich. (beaha, 6.6.2023)​
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The Instagram post just states that they take the accusations serious and condemn any form of assault. And that the band has a right to not be prejudged.​
 
Guys, seriously. We have to put this into perspective here: If you agree to voluntarily have sex with someone and it wasn't as nice as you hoped, or they didn't pay you enough attention afterwards, or if they paid you too MUCH attention after, or they offered you drugs but they weren't the kind of drugs you wanted, or you decided a couple of days, or even years afterwards that you didn't really mean to consent, then that's absolutely rape. It might even be turbo rape.
 
Guys, seriously. We have to put this into perspective here: If you agree to voluntarily have sex with someone and it wasn't as nice as you hoped, or they didn't pay you enough attention afterwards, or if they paid you too MUCH attention after, or they offered you drugs but they weren't the kind of drugs you wanted, or you decided a couple of days, or even years afterwards that you didn't really mean to consent, then that's absolutely rape. It might even be turbo rape.
I wouldn't be surprised if that cunt does it for attention. Everyone and their grandmother knows what happens backstage. It's not a secret. People knew in the 1900s what was going on backstage and groupies thirsted for sex with their idol. But now it's suddenly as if it's a big revelation and everybody acts like before Rammstein everyone was just having tea and biscuits backstage and not just drugs and hardcore sex. It makes me mad how retarded people are. Those are just attention whores who get backed up by metoo-cunts.
 
Wow, a whorish slut went to a drug orgy after being told she would be fucked, consented and now is uppity?

Metoo was Mestake.
 
Breaking news:​
FIRST CONSEQUENCES

Rammstein ban female employee and call in lawyers​

According to a report in "Die Welt", the band has now banned the employee who was responsible for recruiting women from attending concerts.
June 6 2023, 15:32

The German rock band Rammstein has drawn the first consequences from the accusations against frontman Till Lindemann. The singer is accused by a number of women of systematic sexual exploitation at live concerts as well as after-show parties. As the German daily newspaper Die Welt was able to find out, the band is now parting ways with Alena Makeeva, the employee responsible for recruiting young women in the course of the after-show parties, as a first step.

Welt am Sonntag had revealed over the weekend how Makeeva is said to have selected young women at Rammstein events and fed them to Lindemann. She describes herself as a "casting director." Makeeva has been on the road with the band since 2019, but according to them never received any money for it.

Investigation results by Friday
Rammstein apparently had no professional PR support until now, but since last Friday they have hired a Berlin-based agency that specializes in crisis PR, according to the Welt report. The band did not even have its own spokesperson until then.

In agreement with the newly engaged PR agency, according to information from Die Welt, a renowned law firm has also been commissioned to investigate the allegations. Their first investigation results are to be available already by Friday, which is surprising. The results of an internal e-mail survey, which the band's management had conducted among employees shortly after the first allegations were made, are also to be included in the work. (red, 6.6.2023)

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"I don't want to say it was rape, because I did consent, but I wasn't obviously happy about what was happening now either. I was also in quite a lot of pain, and he must have noticed that it wasn't easy to make love to me." She had bled afterwards, but didn't want to say it hurt, "because it was just Till Lindemann. After ten minutes he was done and thanked me and said he was better now."
This woman is a complete retard and should be laughed out of court.

In another case, a then 21-year-old reported lying unconscious on a hotel bed after one of Lindemann's after-show parties. According to her recollections, the singer was lying on top of her when she regained consciousness and asked her if he should stop. She did not know what he should stop with. The frontman then left, and his associates offered the woman drugs. She refused, the woman said.
This one is very concerning/frustrating. On one hand I hate the idea of famous celebrities being able to drug and rape people Bill Cosby-style and get away with it. But on the other hand, when you go back stage with a musician as a groupie it's obviously for drugs, alcohol, and sex..
 
After ten minutes he was done and thanked me and said he was better now
idk about you but he is at least friendly. Whatever those women thought, that man is not gonna settle down with them. He had relationships with actresses before, he only needs a fuck to chill out after an intense rock concert and entertaining people. Or idfk, he is probably high on drugs majority of the time. Art and music is so often intertwined with drug abuse and groupies are just now surprised that they're only been taken advantage of. At least Lindemann doesn't leave bodies behind but makes sure his groupies get treated nicely and friendly.
when you go back stage with a musician as a groupie it's obviously for drugs, alcohol, and sex..
it's so fucking obvious. That happened since forever.
 
This woman is a complete retard and should be laughed out of court.


This one is very concerning/frustrating. On one hand I hate the idea of famous celebrities being able to drug and rape people Bill Cosby-style and get away with it. But on the other hand, when you go back stage with a musician as a groupie it's obviously for drugs, alcohol, and sex..

I've come to the conclusion that groupies are a special kind of dumb. They want so badly to have time with their favorite celebrity that they throw all caution out the door without a second thought. Don't meet these guys alone backstage. Meet them at public events. Don't agree to get on the tour bus or go to their hotel room or house. If it's not a public event stay away. It's really that simple.

They're banging every bitch from here to Saskatchewan. You're just another notch on the belt. There are some famous groupies that managed to bag their man. But ask yourself this question: Do you really want to be the next Paula Yates?
 
"Why don't men want to be with us anymore?" Cries the modern woman.

"Because not only you are a headeache, you bring down the full power of the law if I so much irritate you." Said the man.

Then she called to cancel him for sexism and bigotry. Like clockwork.
 
Update:​
FOR AND AGAINST

Should you go to a Rammstein concert? A pro & con​

There are serious accusations against Rammstein and singer Till Lindemann. Should you still attend the band's concerts?
Pro & Con / Ronald Pohl Valerie Dirk
June 7 2023, 17:18


With four concerts in Munich, the band Rammstein starts the Germany route of their current European tour from today, Wednesday. 240,000 people are expected to attend the four dates at the Olympic Stadium. Due to the pending accusations against frontman Till Lindemann for sexual exploitation, the shows will take place under special tension. Admittedly, there are already first consequences with regard to the course of the live concerts - both the controversial Row Zero is to remain empty as well as a new concept for the after-show parties is to be implemented. But is that enough to enjoy the music? The question will arise for fans at the latest at the Vienna concerts on July 26 and 27 at the Ernst Happel Stadium.

Pro: Rammstein heard
Anyone who habitually listens to Rammstein's music will not be spared discomfort: ambiguity, practiced in thoughts, words and stabbing steps, forms the basis of the East Germans' business. For days, there have been accusations that singer Till Lindemann had women fed to him in order to have sex with them without consent. Again, the presumption of innocence applies. But the rumored omnipotence behavior, which stages the contact with young women as a rendezvous on the fresh meat bench, is hard to bear.

Amorality is one of the great promises of freedom in modern art. Dark impulses are just as repertoire-ready in their creepy theater as exaggerated depictions of violence. Art must be capable of disturbing. Only in this way, in the unreservedness of some of its exaggerations, does it remain right - against the superiority of a hopeless reality.

It is up to each and everyone whether he/she wants to attend a Rammstein concert. Nevertheless, it may be necessary to think in two ways: In the face of a world that is itself characterized by violent conditions, the stubbornness of art remains an asset worthy of preservation. Till Lindemann may be personally repulsive on account of his colocated behavior. The musical work of art Rammstein belongs to be heard. (Ronald Pohl, 7.6.2023)

Contra: Do not finance contempt for women
Rammstein are among my earliest going-away memories. And although I didn't particularly like the band because of their German buffoonery, the lines in lead singer Lindemann's intonation burned themselves into my memory: "Mutterrrr, Sonnnnne, wenn die Engel schlafen gehn ...". Later I tried (successfully) to raise their music and image to a distancing meta-level, and because of the bombastic pyro shows I was actually close to buying a concert ticket last year.

Due to the accusations against Lindemann, the Metabene has now collapsed. The brute penis-cannon stage ego, the violence-fantasy-sealing lyrical ego seems to have become identical to the human being. Of course, the presumption of innocence applies to the singer, and of course it is necessary that the incidents be examined with regard to their punishability. But even if the sexual contacts with blood young groupies are based on voluntariness, a stale aftertaste would remain, now that one knows what the short break before the Germany song is used for. Do I want to fund or even celebrate the misogynistic lyrics and recruitment system described by Youtuber Kayla Shyx? No.

Now, if one has already bought an expensive ticket for an approaching concert, what then? Given the breach of trust between fans and the band (the band members have not distanced themselves so far), it would be imperative to put pressure on the promoters to take the tickets back. Because selling them or letting them expire at their own expense would allow the million-dollar machine Rammstein to continue unabashedly. (Valerie Dirk, 7.6.2023)​
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Should you go to a Rammstein concert?
Yes, because they're still a fucking great live band. Let's not act like groupies don't get fucked backstage at any other Metal Bands shows, this one just decided to go the MeToo route after not getting any clout because getting fucked by Till isn't exactly an exclusive club
 
Yes, because they're still a fucking great live band. Let's not act like groupies don't get fucked backstage at any other Metal Bands shows, this one just decided to go the MeToo route after not getting any clout because getting fucked by Till isn't exactly an exclusive club
tbf he is at least thanking them for having sex with him.

It's weird when groupies realize that their beloved rockstar isn't giving a shit about them. But it wouldn't be a lie to say, that they don't care much about him either. Both wanted sex, both got sex, deal done.

I always had the impression that he is a bit rougher. But he could literally kidnap women and rape them, but he rather fucks his groupies who consent to it and to the drugs. But fucking hell, don't act like rockstars taking drugs and fucking groupies is something new.
 
I've just about had it with the "adults" behaving like children and expecting the entire world to coddle them endlessly.
Fuck you- you've made a decision to go, "nobody told me" raises my hackles like nothing else. I bet nobody told you to breathe either, yet somehow your stupid inflated ego is still moving around. Some lessons need to be learned the hard way, if you do not understand what everyone else comprehends effortlessly just by observation.
Rammstein is one of the very few bands I'm still making an effort of spending money on and buying CDs. Leave them the fuck alone, you vapid bimbos
 
I've just about had it with the "adults" behaving like children and expecting the entire world to coddle them endlessly.
Fuck you- you've made a decision to go, "nobody told me" raises my hackles like nothing else. I bet nobody told you to breathe either, yet somehow your stupid inflated ego is still moving around. Some lessons need to be learned the hard way, if you do not understand what everyone else comprehends effortlessly just by observation.
Rammstein is one of the very few bands I'm still making an effort of spending money on and buying CDs. Leave them the fuck alone, you vapid bimbos
If the women are able to bring proof of being given drugs and getting raped, then all involved should be prosecuted and put in jail if proven guilty, no exceptions for rockstars.
I think the compromise solution should be:
- educate women, especially girls/young ones, that they are a highly sought after and treasured item for men, especially those with wealth and bored with normie life. Teach them that men often prey upon women they deem vulnerable, as it's largely in their nature and in many ways part of the reproduction behavior set in humans. Teach them to be careful and expect that men that act nice to them are likely wanting to fuck their brains out, which can be just fine, but they should know what the game is about
- if men rape, and I mean actual rape, not "oh shit this dude I fucked had a tiny dick and he smelled rancid you know what I didn't really consent RAAAAAAAAAPEEE HELLLLP", with proper proof, in a court of law, they get hard years of jail. Societies should feel safe for law abiding citizens. While we do understand the natural sex drive males have, they must learn to keep it in check and seek partners the "proper" way, not the bonk over head/take to cave way. Allowing men to rape creates anarchic, unstable societies which are undesirable. Not to mention that you will probably become a father and have a young, hopefully hot daughter, and then you will fucking understand when some sleazy 50 yrs old with a Ferrari and mansions is trying to "show her around" and "find her some cool jobs".
 
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