Netflix's first Arabic production ignites moral outrage in Egypt - Who thought this was a good idea?

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Netflix's first Arabic film production was always set to be a big event, but within days of its release, public opinion in Egypt was so inflamed that critics called for a ban on the platform.

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A phone screen in Cairo showing a scene from the Netflix-produced Arab-language comedy "Ashab wala Aaz" starring Lebanese actors Adel Karam and Diamand Bou Abboud​

"Ashab wala Aaz" -- one of countless remakes of the Italian comedy-drama "Perfetti Sconosciutti" (Perfect Strangers) -- features renowned actors from Lebanon, Egypt and Jordan. The movie is about a group of friends meeting for dinner and deciding to make the night more interesting by agreeing to share every text message, email and phone call received with the rest of the group. As events unfold, the game reveals shocking truths about members of the group as it touches on topics from adultery and premarital sex to homosexuality, all widely considered taboos in Egypt.

The film, which was released on January 20, immediately shot up to the most-watched list in Egypt. But in the ensuing fracas, lawsuits have been filed against the culture ministry and the censor's office for allowing the film to be streamed, and MPs have called for a special session to discuss whether to ban Netflix altogether. Online, many slammed celebrated Egyptian actress Mona Zaki, who took part in what they dubbed a "disgraceful" movie.

Amid the storm, the US streaming giant has refrained from commenting.

'War on morals'​

One lawyer argued that the film "promotes homosexuality" while another said it seeks to "destroy family values" as part of a "systematic war on the morals" of Egyptian society. While homosexuality is not expressly outlawed in Egypt, it is often punished under loosely worded laws prohibiting "debauchery". Moreover, discrimination against the LGBT community is widespread in the deeply conservative and religious society.

Lawmaker Mostafa Bakry argued Netflix should be banned altogether as he called for an urgent meeting in parliament to discuss it. He particularly lambasted a scene in which one of the actors -- who was playing a father to a teenage girl -- discussed with his daughter her first sexual encounter.

Premarital sex is also taboo in Egypt, where in extreme cases it may provoke "honor killings", especially in rural areas. "This network targets Egyptian and Arab citizens ... we should ban Netflix," Bakri said in an interview with a private TV channel.

He said the film includes "more than 20 suggestive profanities which shocked Egyptian families". Netflix rated the one-and-a-half hour long feature as not suitable for those under 16 years old, though it did not include any nudity or sex scenes.

'Bold, unconventional'​

Egyptian film critic Tarek Shennawy said he was "surprised" at the attack on actress Mona Zaki. Zaki, who played the part of a wife trapped in an unsatisfying marriage, was particularly criticised for a scene in which she removes her underwear from under her dress. On social media, many viewed the scene as a source of shame for her husband -- renowned actor Ahmed Helmi -- and their daughter.

"How did Ahmed Helmi allow his wife to play this part in the movie," one user asked on Twitter.

Another questioned how Zaki "was not afraid for her daughter to see her this bold".

But Shennawy argued that "the movie's content should not affect the personal or national honor of those who took part in it". "We are confusing fiction with reality and this is very weird."

'Deny, silence or ignore'​

Egyptian cinema has a long history of films that shake social mores. Nearly 20 years ago, "Sahar al-Layali" (Sleepless Nights), broached the troubles facing young married and unmarried couples. It too raised topics such as adultery, classism and sexual dissatisfaction in marriages.

In 2006, cinemas screened "The Yacoubian Building" -- adapted from the best-selling novel by Alaa al-Aswany -- which explicitly discussed homosexuality.

Perhaps the greatest irony is the fact that in 2016, the Cairo International Film Festival's top prize went to none other than "Perfetti Sconosciutti".

But public appetite for such films has clashed with a mounting backlash as Egypt has become more conservative and freedoms have been further curtailed under President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, who took office in 2014. Yet despite the scathing criticism, others defended the film, viewing it as an accurate depiction of reality.

"It is bold, unconventional and broached topics that Arabic cinema did not discuss before," prominent leftist lawyer and former presidential candidate Khaled Ali wrote on Facebook.

"It is realistic, no matter how much we try to deny, silence or ignore it."



In my own country there was something similar but it was way, way more bold: a Netflix production depicted Jesus as gay. It caused a lot of uproar in more traditional religious groups. You can read more about it here if you are curious.
 
"Kingdom of Heaven" was fucked pretty hard when it got edited for theatrical release and they really went out of their way for the "Christian bad" message. The uncut version is significantly better and longer and it is individual Christian persons* are bad not the Christian religion. *Both versions do heavily indulge in massive character assassinations and Hollywood incessant need to change history in their movies.
 
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Who the hell is filing these lolsuits? Lawyers on their own? On behalf of whom? Who is the plaintiff here? Society as a whole? Allah and his prophet? Also, what kind of a fucked up culture is this where the citizens themselves are such crybaby snowflakes that they have to petition their own goverment to censor Netflix for them? It's not the government's job to protect you from a fucking streaming series. Grow the fuck up and just cancel your Netflix account. I just cannot believe the immatury and infantilism of these people.
This is Egypt, a country that actually protects its morality and culture, so yes on the basis it harms society.
 
The interesting thing is, that shouldn't surprise anyone, is that they HAD to know this would be offensive in a country with blasphemy laws.

They did this shit deliberately, to force these lawsuits, to test the water to see just how much they can get away with.
 
A movie about Saladin was made in the 2000s by Hollywood, known as "Kingdom of Heaven" and is hated by many here I would assume, because it shows crusader bad.
Watched it some time ago (the full director's cut), and it's nothing like that. If anything, the Christian knights look really fuckin' badass, and Saladin and his army too.



Much later I found out that Edward Norton was Baldwin IV, I honestly couldn't tell, but even with the mask on, he did a fine job.

It became one of my all-time favorite movies, it's actually really good, downright peak Christian kino.

Throwing in the scenes with the Knight Hospitaller because he was also fantastic.

 
Egyptian cinema has a long history of films that shake social mores.
Yeah but Netflix isn’t fucking cinema no matter how mich it wants to be and how well it convinces the awards shows it is. It’s a home-degeneracy-delivery system.

It’s one thing when shit is in the movie theatres, and probably only one or two in Cairo so who cares, easy to keep your kids away. When they’re creating content specifically targeted at your country misrepresenting the morality of your country and culture as happily accepting of degeneracy, and making it instantly accessible inside your home, that is different. Sure Egyptians can cancel their individual Netflix accounts, but sounds like the government wants to take a stronger stand. Good for them. This is NOT acceptable in Egypt, but if they allow increasing representations pretending it is, then it eventually the corruption will begin to be accepted and we see how that goes. That’s the entire point of all this social engineering.

Nip that shit right now haji, good on ya.
 
A movie about Saladin was made in the 2000s by Hollywood, known as "Kingdom of Heaven" and is hated by many here I would assume, because it shows crusader bad.

The Turks recently made some movie about the 1453 Fall of Constantinople which is a decent watch for those not triggered by the kebab itself trying to look white.
I didn't get "crusader bad" from that movie. But I probably lean very crusade so that doesn't count
 
I didn't get "crusader bad" from that movie. But I probably lean very crusade so that doesn't count
I guess as someone mentioned earlier, the uncut version is more balanced than the theatrical version.

I have only seen the uncut version but seen folks hate on it for being muzzie friendly.
 
The smart thing to do would have been to play it safe and make some Pan Arabic movie or series about Saladin or other figures from Arabic history.
those movies are all bad.

The interesting thing is, that shouldn't surprise anyone, is that they HAD to know this would be offensive in a country with blasphemy laws.

They did this shit deliberately, to force these lawsuits, to test the water to see just how much they can get away with.
they dont care the fine will be so pocketchange...


It’s one thing when shit is in the movie theatres, and probably only one or two in Cairo so who cares, easy to keep your kids away. When they’re creating content specifically targeted at your country misrepresenting the morality of your country and culture as happily accepting of degeneracy, and making it instantly accessible inside your home, that is different.
Its not that degenerated if its anything like the original or any of the other remakes. way to boring for kids and way less pozzed than us movies.
there are alot of remakes and i kind of wanna see how the Japanese

and the Koreans

deal with the problems of middle aged middleclass couples beeing a bunch of liars.


My guess is that this was a big hit with middle clas egyptians and that the ourrage is not organic, its just a desperate attempt to have one day with something other in the focus than the country crumbling under inflation.
 
I didn't get "crusader bad" from that movie. But I probably lean very crusade so that doesn't count

It's closer to the resurgent islamic kingdoms than crusade period so crusades arnt very relevant at that specific moment. They've already got Jerusalem afterall.

One of the weirder things about the period is the dynamic is sort of inverted were the eastern kingdoms are the sophisticated nations in terms of tech, economics and culture wereas the Western kingdoms are a bunch of warlords relying on religion and post Imperial culture to hold the whole thing together. The first crusade even has the thunderbolt in a clear sky that 9/11 had going on were the everyone is caught with their pants down.

But yeah I'd have probably gone for something a bit more historical or classical if I'd have been netflix. I saw a show called Paranormal on netflix which is an Egyptian pulpy horror adventure series so it's not like this is new ground and dealing with some theocratic inbred mutant who hates women isnt worth the fuss if you're looking to make money since you're just going to be percieved as an outsider coming in anyway.
 
It's interesting how they're STILL trying to push homosexuality and wokeness on the Arab world.

That was half the fucking problem in Afghanistan. They spent literally billions trying to make the Afghanis OK with pole smoking, lesbians, trans, and other shit.

Then the Taliban rolled in, went "Whore, where is your hijab?" and most of the population seemed totally OK with it.
There are definitely wokes in the Arab world though, they’re just either very online and covert, or they’re very pick-and-choose with their activism.
 
One of the weirder things about the period is the dynamic is sort of inverted were the eastern kingdoms are the sophisticated nations in terms of tech, economics and culture wereas the Western kingdoms are a bunch of warlords relying on religion and post Imperial culture to hold the whole thing together. The first crusade even has the thunderbolt in a clear sky that 9/11 had going on were the everyone is caught with their pants down.
Yes and no. Europe, yes, the Outremer kingdoms, no. One of the big reasons Saladin did his thing is because Muslims loved Outremer rule since taxes were lower and the laws were fairer, even for them, than being under Muslim rule.
 
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