NBC’s Olympics Coverage

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Why was the match in woman beating so short? you should take a punch better if you go to the olympics
 
NBC's coverage is overall dogshit but an improvement over 2020/21 coverage but it's seriously gone down the shitter since 2008.

I do not give a fuck about the American if they are in 16th place, I want to actually see the best in the world sometimes. Crazy notion, I know.
 
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People are arguing that he’s not a man but a woman with “elevated testosterone levels”
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Best I can find, Khelif has XY chromosomes but with a vagina. If Khelif has ovaries then, scientifically, Khelif is female (because female means "produces large gametes"), but I cannot find if Khelif produces any gametes, only that Khelif does not have penis or testes. EDIT: and now some are saying XXY...

I found speculation that Khelif is missing the Y chromosome gene that produces testes, or that Khelif somehow missed the fetal transformation to male and therefore has the default female body plan, but I can't really find any good sources for any of that. The reporting is kind of a mess, especially with all the internet slapfights.

It seems Khelif is part of the 0.05% (1 in 2000 to 1 in 4000) that are actually intersex. Not gender dysphoric, not AGP, one of the nigh-mythical intersex that the others appropriate to justify themselves. Khelif could still be an opportunist, but it seems more like Khelif got into boxing at a young age and stayed with it due to being good at it due to biology, which is true of many olympic athletes.

What should society do about such rare cases? No clue. Doesn't seem fair to expect an XX woman to fight an XY person with massive testosterone bonuses, but it also doesn't seem great to discriminate based on genetic, epigenetic, or fetal abnormalities.
 
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What should society do about such rare cases? No clue. Doesn't seem fair to expect an XX woman to fight an XY person with massive testosterone bonuses, but it also doesn't seem great to discriminate based on genetic, epigenetic, or fetal abnormalities.
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Banning anyone who went through a male puberty from competing in women's sports. That's just an innate advantage even if the athlete uses GnRH agonists to get their testosterone down under the IOC's maximum levels later. Unfortunately this would be impossible to check and enforce.

There have been a handful of intersex athletes competing in women's sports across the years who were raised as women and honestly just have no idea what's going on. Mostly from Africa. It's not fair to them to ban them but it really just needs to be done to make the competition fair for everyone.
 
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Best I can find, Khelif has XY chromosomes but with a vagina. If Khelif has ovaries then, scientifically, Khelif is female (because female means "produces large gametes"), but I cannot find if Khelif produces any gametes, only that Khelif does not have penis or testes. EDIT: and now some are saying XXY...

I found speculation that Khelif is missing the Y chromosome gene that produces testes, or that Khelif somehow missed the fetal transformation to male and therefore has the default female body plan, but I can't really find any good sources for any of that. The reporting is kind of a mess, especially with all the internet slapfights.

It seems Khelif is part of the 0.05% (1 in 2000 to 1 in 4000) that are actually intersex. Not gender dysphoric, not AGP, one of the nigh-mythical intersex that the others appropriate to justify themselves. Khelif could still be an opportunist, but it seems more like Khelif got into boxing at a young age and stayed with it due to being good at it due to biology, which is true of many olympic athletes.

What should society do about such rare cases? No clue. Doesn't seem fair to expect an XX woman to fight an XY person with massive testosterone bonuses, but it also doesn't seem great to discriminate based on genetic, epigenetic, or fetal abnormalities.
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In that case she’ll age out and it’s rare enough that it’s very unlikely we’ll see another such thing in our lifetimes. If it was common for them to continuously present an advantage, they could have their own league.
 
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Best I can find, Khelif has XY chromosomes but with a vagina.
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she has DSD and/or some form of hyperandrogenism, basically it boils down to her being a woman that produces a shit ton of testosterone. something like Swyer syndrome can give women XY chromosomes and falls under that sort of spectrum.
A rare genetic condition in which people who have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome (the usual pattern for males) look female. They have normal female reproductive organs, including a uterus, fallopian tubes, and vagina. However, the ovaries do not develop and are replaced by clumps of tissue where they would normally form.
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keep in mind she's Algerian and being gay is literally against the law there, so i also sort of doubt they would send a tranny to the Olympics out of principle anyway.

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There have been a handful of intersex athletes competing in women's sports across the years who were raised as women and honestly just have no idea what's going on. Mostly from Africa. It's not fair to them to ban them but it really just needs to be done to make the competition fair for everyone.
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i think the discussion to ban people for how they composed genetically is a bit of a slippery slope, it isn't fair for women to compete with intersex people (see Caster Semenya) but you can argue the same for people who had to swim versus Michael Phelps and Katie Ledecky or sprint versus Usain Bolt. of course they didn't benefit from having more testosterone but they are genetic freaks nonetheless, if you were competing during their reign you were basically shit out of luck, the best athletes are typically those who are genetically predisposed to excel.
 
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keep in mind she's Algerian and being gay is literally against the law there, so i also sort of doubt they would send a tranny to the Olympics out of principle anyway.
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Being against the law does not mean there could not be workarounds.
Iran sort of allow gender reassignment surgeries in the case of homosexual relationship IIRC. One has to bite the bullet and get the surgery because gay = sin but being born in the wrong body is somewhat 'accepted'.

As for her looks, I had a few classmates for Algeria, some of the chicks looked a lot like dudes. One that comes to mind was a 14y.o. girl who was pushing 220lbs and +-6"2'
The other chicks used to call her 'The Bull' lmao.
 
George Lucas dijo:
I’ve never watched shooting at the Olympics aside from Biathlon (a winter sport). Is it interesting?
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No. It's bullshit just to give the Chinese and Indians more medals.

It barely beats male volleyball and 3 on 3 basketball.

Although I would like to try it. My local hardware store is selling air rifles for $100 and I imagine I could set up a 10 meter target indoors.
 
Chongqing dijo:
No. It's bullshit just to give the Chinese and Indians more medals.

It barely beats male volleyball and 3 on 3 basketball.

Although I would like to try it. My local hardware store is selling air rifles for $100 and I imagine I could set up a 10 meter target indoors.
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Biathlon uses actual .22LR bolt-action rifles, though they look quite weird as they are designed to be as light and ergonomic as possible.
 
Maybe I’m retarded but it seems like today’s American track & field athletes are all wearing big gold chains and have tons of tattoos and it makes us look like retards. I don’t remember them looking this URBAN before.
 
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