Nazi Paranoia

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For some time now I saw a lot of left leaning people talking serious about some sort of Nazi menace. Of course, they often do this just for drama, political profits and demonizing their foes.

But I also saw ones who REALLY believe there are a huge underground white supremacy movement just await the opportunity to take down the government and send everyone to Auschwitz. People that think Trump was Hitler's second coming, that January 6 was a Nazi coup d'état try out and we are just one step close to the 4th Reich.

This shit has reached the point where a simple ok hand sign leads them to hysterical meltdowns.

What’s your opinions about that?
 
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So what you're saying is the left has gotten so paranoid that they started seeing phantoms of themselves in the mirror. Who'd have thunk that this could've ever happened.
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The left has almost always done this throughout modern western history. They create self fulfilling prophesies through the outcome of their flawed policies and religious intrepretation of human behavior. Those they label fascist/nazi/reactionary are typically people who see the failings of leftist policy and speak out. Many of the fascist intellectuals were disillusioned leftists who saw the failings. Leftist belief is also very attractive to those already in power as it validates centralized control and harsh crackdowns on dissent.
 
My opinion is that from a realpolitik viewpoint it is completely sensible to use fear tactics to prod people to vote for you and that's what it was more than anything. Never forget that half the population or more is below 100 IQ and they need more exagerated ideas and more repitition of those ideas to have it stick. I presume people here average about 120 IQ and the result is that ithe message intended for the thickest sounds both dumb and repetitive.

I despise the left, but what their spin doctors were doing was very sensible and effective. It may not have been enough to win thethe election fairly, but it helps to put activists boots on the floor and threaten violence or online report the slightests infractions.
 
There are no Nazis in America. No one who has ever been called a Nazi by SJWs is actually a Nazi. Even the people who call themselves Nazis are not Nazis at all; in fact, most Neo-Nazis don't even know what Nazism is.

Fascism quite literally means ethnocentric nationalist socialism. In other words, a kind of business-centric socialism where the means of production are not fully centralized, and where there is a focus on improving the welfare of one's own race above all others. As a deeply authoritarian ideology, it's pretty much diametrically opposed to the right-libertarianism of things like the patriot movement. Even many self-avowed Neo-Nazis today have no idea what fascism actually was or what it stood for.

The closest thing to fascism still existing today is what the Communist Party of China practices, which is the same exact thing as the Nazis; ethnocentric nationalist socialism focused specifically on the racial welfare of the Han people, with businesses that practice self-administration and a government that merely nudges them around to produce this or that as needed.

In modern SJW parlance, a Nazi or a Fascist is "anyone I don't like". The terms have been diluted so thoroughly, by this point, it's arguable that they don't mean anything at all.
 
I have Nazi paranoia too. Not from anything I'm seeing on the right but every time the left pushes a crackdown on expressions or ideas or their bizarre social experiment on children I think this only ends with blood in the streets.
 
I wouldn’t call it paranoia, it’s just that the word “Nazi” has become a powerful offensive tool: you can label someone a Nazi or fascist and kill them socially (at least in some social environments). It’s a very clever move because debating about actual fascist ideologies is still widely a taboo.
 
Calling someone a "Nazi" evokes all of the things members of the National Socialist party did; that is, those who call you a Nazi are saying you are as bad as people who would commit genocide, that you have discriminatory racial beliefs, that you are a loser because the Nazis literally were losers--an ideology that your grandfather might have fought and died against in the world's largest conflict.

The problem is that when you actually understand everything the Nazis did, and when you actually understand how depraved some of our "allies" in that same war were, how twisted their policies, how deranged their bloodlust, how disengaged they remained from the realities of their people--you know, then, that some faggot calling you a Nazi over the internet, or calling people you associate with Nazis at their gay fucking rallies and Antifa protests, don't have a solid understanding of how, historically, things really went. You can safely disregard the opinion of anyone using "Nazi" as though it is a damnable slur, because the connotations they evoke are hollow when you consider the ideologies they themselves are arguing for.
 
The-Patriarchy dijo:
Then again, maybe it just means the progressives are just looking for excuses to demonize everything other than themselves- which is also not strictly paranoia (but it is gaslighting)
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Everyone can agree the Nazi's were bad. Hence why it's such a popular label to call people you dislike or disagree with.

The-Patriarchy dijo:
It's not paranoia if everyone around you is secretly a Nazi, even if they don't realize it themselves!
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The woke ideology really does believe this. Even if you don't realise it, people who aren't woke are indoctrinated in a false consciousness that upholds an oppressive white supremacist society. Nazis and they don't even know it.

Unless they break free of this false consciousness and develop critical consciousness. They are incapable of even understanding how they contribute and maintain the system of oppression. So all-encompassing is this system, it is impossible to convince people it exists, because the tools they understand of facts, science, logic and reason are all tained with maintaining the impression. So they need to be forced out of it. The woke are justified in any tactic possible to force people to adapt to a critical consciousness. They don't believe it's possible to reasonably explain why they are right and what they believe to the non-woke.

When the non-woke point out what the woke are saying is bullshit. They're using the aforementioned tools of maintaining the oppression. So it's not valid criticism of the woke and their beliefs. Even if the woke think the non-woke are making a valid point. It doesn't matter because the woke are justified in lying and being underhanded or violent to try and break peoples false consequences.
 
These are largely aimless, unmoored people in desperate search of a Great Big Evil to contrast themselves and their own behavior with, and to justify their worst urges by predicating them on the notion that they're Punching The Nazi... e.g. "Sure I defamed someone horrifically, attempted to ruin their lives and killed their dog. But they were a Nazi! They do and say Nazi things, unlike me! I'm not a Nazi, and so I hurt the Nazis! Me good, Nazi bad!"
 
Groon dijo:
For some time now I saw a lot of left leaning people talking serious about some sort of Nazi menace. Of course, they often do this just for drama, political profits and demonizing their foes.

But I also saw ones who REALLY believe there are a huge underground white supremacy movement just await the opportunity to take down the government and send everyone to Auschwitz. People that think Trump was Hitler's second coming, that January 6 was a Nazi coup d'état try out and we are just one step close to the 4th Reich.

This shit has reached the point where a simple ok hand sign leads them to hysterical meltdowns.

What’s your opinions about that?
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To these weirdos the labels of "nazi" or "white supremacist" are just euphemisms for any person who would be recognizable as sane and healthy to the majority of their ancestors. People who want families, who exercise and take care of their bodies, and those who seek to actually educate themselves by reading bad-think literature are all branded heretics by the lunatics. This even extends to people who are of a non-European extraction who refuse to get on-board the anti-white nonsense. The freaks fear normal people because their power comes from the enfranchisement of the undeserving. They're forced to engage in perpetual revolution to advance the (legal) "acceptance" of increasingly debased acts and lifestyles so that their own depravities are shielded from scrutiny.

The actual National Socialists of Germany from back in the day got their initial support in part by bringing the abject filth of Berlin and other hubs of degeneracy to light and promising to take out the trash. They kept their promises and working class people were extremely pleased with the party until the war started.

When they call you a nazi they're branding you as a heretic who wants to demolish their caste system of perverts and psychopaths and replace it with family values, justice, and fair representation.
 
A lot of the paranoia is intentionally provoked. They have conditioned themselves to be frantic and to at least appear as sincerely terrified as possible precisely because the more terrified and scared and miserable they seem, the more likely it is someone will pacify them, ie, they get at least some of what they want.

I liken this to the 'Summer of Rage' when it came to Lancaster, PA, and you had exactly one night of furious rioting violence over some black lunatic getting shot while charging a cop with a knife. Then, unlike the other riots, it stopped cold. Coincidentally, the first rioters arrested were held on a 1 million dollar bond, and instead of instantly being sprung from prison, the ones caught were looking at being held for a possibly lengthy amount of time.

Kind of amazing, isn't it? How the people taking part in those riots - supposedly explosions of sincere, uncontrollable, righteous indignation and outrage - were able to calm the fuck down the precise moment actual meaningful penalties for their behavior were introduced.

People bullshit about their emotions constantly nowadays, and if you don't believe that, take a look at how many people are able to choreograph highly emotional (and yet very intentionally set up) Tiktoks.
 
It's funny how the so-called progressives have actually regressed at a point mentally to reverse back to "fighting" Nazism. We moved on to the Cold War with Russia/USSR after Hitler's suicide, then, battled certain terrorist factions in the Middle East. Now, we're back to "battling" Hitler/Nazism again, as if it's Frieza/Android 17 in Dragon Ball or something.

Hitler's been dead for about 75 years, physically, but he still lives through the idiots who fear his return (many thought Trump was Hitler 2.0) or believe a minority group (Neo-Nazis) will overrun the American government to push Nazism to the forefront. Saddest part is most of us didn't even grow up in that time, so it's instilled fear.
 
Shit like Charlottesville is what stokes the fires of this bullshit, but really white supremacy in general isn't anywhere near as big as they hype it up to be. Nazi is just a scarlet letter, it's dangled over your head to shut you down from the conversation at large. Hell, it doesn't even matter if you're not white, let alone pure ethnic German, they'll still slap it on you anyways, just look at Milo or Ben Shapiro, a couple of fucking jews.
 
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