Nava-Verse / Moleman Literature

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Dr. Mario

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I've just finished reading the first chapter of Connor Thorn and the Film Reel of the Cosmos and this part caught my attention:
Connor Thorn and the Film Reel of the Cosmos dijo:
Connor had an extensive family tree with several much more responsible relatives readily available, and even if he didn't a regular babysitter would be more trustworthy to watch their son than an abuser like Grady, who lived miles away from their house anyway and wasn't even the most conveniently located guardian available, so there was absolutely no justifiable reason whatsoever for Connor's parents to have chosen this awful man to take care of their boy, they were just that stupid.

Please, tell me there's another reason for his parents to let Connor stay with this man, anything better than being stupid parents.
 
It's also a good sign when the omniscient narrator uses highly subjective adverbs like "stupid" to describe something the protagonist doesn't like.
 
In case anyone's interested: Here's the links to his stories about the Nava-verse:

1. Connor Thorn and the Film Reel of the Cosmos
The very first story about the Nava-verse, where Connor Thorn (Moleman's self-insert) is transported to the Nava-verse during a movie competition. Expect lots of trope lampshading and unfunny jokes.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3047651/1/Connor-Thorn-and-the-Film-Reel-of-the-Cosmos

2. Eggmen: Mercenary Legends
The story of five extremely edgy superheroes. Also including the Water-Egg (who is also Moleman's self-insert) who proves that retards are people too and they can kick your ass.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3047656/1/Eggmen-Mercenary-Legends

3. Lord Reson and the Multiversal Puzzle Box
A prologue to the next story which is The Jamblibam Incident:
http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/Lord-Reson-and-the-Multiversal-Puzzle-Box-348148459

4. The Jamblibam Incident
Unfinished story and on hiatus. The third story of the Navaverse.

Part 1: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-1-348824798
Part 2: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-2-349167121
Part 3: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-3-350350657
Part 4: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-4-352873647
Part 5: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-5-361555045
Part 6: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-6-362569361
Part 7: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-7-364583528
Part 8: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-8-365358472
Part 9: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-9-366885914
Part 10: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-10-367797870
Part 11: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-11-368533746
Part 12: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-12-368650562
Part 13: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-13-392320253
 
In case anyone's interested: Here's the links to his stories about the Nava-verse:

1. Connor Thorn and the Film Reel of the Cosmos
The very first story about the Nava-verse, where Connor Thorn (Moleman's self-insert) is transported to the Nava-verse during a movie competition. Expect lots of trope lampshading and unfunny jokes.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3047651/1/Connor-Thorn-and-the-Film-Reel-of-the-Cosmos

2. Eggmen: Mercenary Legends
The story of five extremely edgy superheroes. Also including the Water-Egg (who is also Moleman's self-insert) who proves that retards are people too and they can kick your ass.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3047656/1/Eggmen-Mercenary-Legends

3. Lord Reson and the Multiversal Puzzle Box
A prologue to the next story which is The Jamblibam Incident:
http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/Lord-Reson-and-the-Multiversal-Puzzle-Box-348148459

4. The Jamblibam Incident
Unfinished story and on hiatus. The third story of the Navaverse.

Part 1: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-1-348824798
Part 2: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-2-349167121
Part 3: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-3-350350657
Part 4: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-4-352873647
Part 5: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-5-361555045
Part 6: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-6-362569361
Part 7: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-7-364583528
Part 8: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-8-365358472
Part 9: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-9-366885914
Part 10: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-10-367797870
Part 11: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-11-368533746
Part 12: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-12-368650562
Part 13: http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/art/The-Jamblibam-Incident-Part-13-392320253

Every time I read Jamblibam Incident I keep thinking Jellybean incident. Also fun fact, Moleman was offered a crossover with Gary Gears, a little Megaman/My Life as a Teenage Robot inspired project created by an irc friend of mine. Moleman agreed to do it and the Multiversal Puzzle Box was supposed to figure in into the crossover. He later changed his mind however because in his mind, Gary Gears was inferior to the Nava-Verse (we suspect that the real reason was that Moleman didn't trust my friend).

http://garygears.deviantart.com/art/Gary-Gears-321611564
 
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Also fun fact, Moleman was offered a crossover with Gary Gears, a little Megaman/My Life as a Teenage Robot inspired project created by an irc friend of mine. Moleman agreed to do it and the Multiversal Puzzle Box was supposed to figure in into the crossover. He later changed his mind however because in his mind, Gary Gears was inferior to the Nava-Verse (we suspect that the real reason was that Moleman didn't trust my friend).

http://garygears.deviantart.com/art/Gary-Gears-321611564
Ah yes, he even made a journal about this too, and said about how Gary Gears actually influenced his universe:

http://moleman9000.deviantart.com/journal/The-Last-Chapters-Epic-Crossover-Inbound-360097408

Again, I thank and give a degree of credit to for the idea of including robot characters from another dimension. Despite his shortcomings, without him, this story, and the Mecha–Verse, would never have come to be at all.
And he actually posted about how he didn't trust the creator of Gary Gears.
http://pastebin.com/Wb1a8BC6
Jun 16 21:17:27 <SpacePirate> Suddenly I think Moleman9000 isn't funny. I think he's a pitiful sack of unrelenting shit
Jun 16 21:18:05 <RSDuke> Yeah, he's full of himself, SpacePirate.
Jun 16 21:18:15 <RSDuke> That's why he fired Homor.
Jun 16 21:18:32 <RSDuke> They were gonna do a collaboration together, but Gabe thought he was too good for Homey.
Jun 16 21:18:43 <Beekeeper> Yeah, how could you do that to Homor? he worked very hard
Jun 16 21:18:44 <PissWoofer> Piss, how could you do that to Pissmor? he worked very hard
Jun 16 21:18:56 <Moleman9000_> I also found that he was still associating with you people and mocking e.
Jun 16 21:18:57 <Moleman9000_> *me

Jun 16 21:19:10 <Beekeeper> LOL
Jun 16 21:19:10 <Candy> so what? moleman
Jun 16 21:19:11 <PissWoofer> so what? pissman
Jun 16 21:19:14 <enig> You missed out on your shot for fame, Moleman
Jun 16 21:19:18 <RSDuke> And he thinks Steve Jobs is god. lol
Jun 16 21:19:21 <Moleman9000_> STOP WITH ALL THE PISS STUFF.
 
The Jamblibam Incident
"Jamblibam" Sounds like something Bill Cosby would say.
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"cooking breakfast at six O'JAMBLIBAM in the morning"
 
I think I remember Gabe saying that he jumbles together this nonsense and searches it with quotes on Google until he finds nothing. Somewhat clever, yet also a really ill-advised way of trying to make sure your fiction is original.
It's not a terrible idea. A friend pointed out one place name in my stories was way too close to some disease. Which sucked and could have been avoided with Google back in the day. But I didn't feel that bad, because *ahem* I've seriously run into at least two pieces of (released! Actually proofread!) fiction that had a minor character named "Labia". Which may sound like a character name until you *ahem* point Google at it.

The real problem with Nava-verse is that there's no real consistency in the names. The usual question to think about is etymology - where the names come from and what do they mean, and by extension, how do you get names that fit the same sources. For example, if Gabe would base this heaven/hell stuff even vaguely on the Bible, a sprinkling of Hebrew, Greek or maybe Latin would do just fine.
 
The usual question to think about is etymology - where the names come from and what do they mean, and by extension, how do you get names that fit the same sources. For example, if Gabe would base this heaven/hell stuff even vaguely on the Bible, a sprinkling of Hebrew, Greek or maybe Latin would do just fine.

I run into that same problem with my more fantastical writings. If you're fabricating a world, you have to fabricate the ENTIRE world if you want to keep from breaking immersion. That doesn't mean bludgeoning people over the head with fake etymologies or the entire structure of whales á la Moby Dick, but it means having some consistency. Talking jaguars that are callaed Grum'bal-fluumps that smoke pipes and get drunk eating butter are... unusual, but why are they even there?

  • If your goal is to write something airy and fluffy (kids books), or a tale that is purposely bizarre or unusual as a metaphor (Gullivers' Travels) then by all means, go for it.
  • But if you're trying to write something that's taken seriously, it's a disaster. People will see through it even if they don't consciously understand why. It'll be labeled Gay and Unrealistic. Even then, it could STILL work financially - look at Twilight, it hit all the right notes by being a creepy love story about a shitty girl who lives in a world where nothing makes sense. Pre-teens and milfs ate that up because of ROMANCE and ignored the other stuff the rest of the population mocks.

Unfortunately Gaben isn't doing either. He wants to be Asimov and write Space Operas but he can't write well enough or create a unique enough story to overcome his autism and ego and lack of actual world building.
 
If you're fabricating a world, you have to fabricate the ENTIRE world if you want to keep from breaking immersion. That doesn't mean bludgeoning people over the head with fake etymologies or the entire structure of whales á la Moby Dick, but it means having some consistency.
Reminds me of another fantastic and simple piece of worldbuilding advice: Anything goes, as long as you can plausibly justify it.

Gabe got the "anything goes" part but not the "plausible justification" part.
 
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