Mystery Woman's Story - You dare question the King's indefatigable loyalty to his GF???

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If these other girls don't want to discuss their experiences, shouldn't we just let the subject drop? If they want to make accounts on here, awesome. If they want to go on some podcast and air their dirty laundry, that is equally awesome and I'm sure the video will be archived and posted throughout the threads here. But, it sounds like they're uncomfortable talking about things here. Dropping vague hints is just going to get people more interested and draw more attention to them, which is apparently the opposite of what they want?

I'm just kind of confused as to what the end game is here. I'm glad MW got paid, and I can understand why she had to use this initial thread as motivation for Phil to pay up. Now, there's other people that either can't say anything or don't want to say anything, but we're not supposed to ask questions about them. But also, here's a picture of one of them, and also there's an ongoing police report, but don't ask about that. Oh, and Phil might have an illegitimate child. But don't ask about that either.

I'm legitimately confused about what we are or are not allowed to discuss. I could understand the frustration with a lot of the MW requests because they were incredibly repetitive and covering things that were already answered. But there were just a lot of big bombshells dropped in a very vague fashion that will naturally have people asking questions, but it feels like we're not allowed to ask questions because the people involved want privacy and aren't willing to talk about it? But then why was it brought up in the first place? If there's going to be some tell all podcast, why not just reveal all the information on that, and then we can discuss it here after the fact. We don't need little teases of what's to come, people are already clearly invested enough just with the MW part of the story to watch the podcast. It's not like we're known for just skipping out on big DSP related streams here.

*Quick edit* Just to add, as others have also pointed out, if there is some sort of ongoing investigation or someone needs actual serious help, this really isn't a good place to be discussing it. With an ongoing investigation especially, the best thing to do is not openly discuss anything.
 
carolburnett dijo:
No, that's understandable, I was just clarifying as you stated she called you and there a couple different women involved in the story and was wondering if there had been any previous contact with Tiffany in particular. I don't necessarily expect her to be swayed if she comes around here because I think many of the users will think she is fake or will make fun of her for getting involved with Phil (whether they believe her sincerity or not). If she's looking for Phil for comfort and he has already shown her toxic relationship behavior there's probably a lot of other stuff going on in her life for reasons she was attracted to him. The best thing for her is just work on her, maybe go seek counseling,and family and friends that she trusts. I'm glad she has found a resource in you, but it's going to probably take more of a network for her to break free of an existing toxic relationship - and I don't think that this forum is that. In a best case scenario and even if everyone was very kind to her, the only thing people want from her here is dirt on Phil, they most likely don't give a shit about her well being. She should stay clear away and just cut ties with Phil and be done with it Leanna style.
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I have to agree with you, she does read here a lot so probably best to keep it that way for now. As for if ai had contact with her before no I didnt, she contacted me yesterday because she is beginning to have more and more doubts about him. As for seeking help I agree after what she has been through definitely best to seek help in a different way then talking to Phill or being with him. As for Family there isnt really any Family to be there for her no idea about friends though maybe she didnt want to bother her friends with her perosnal things if she has any since I havent really talked to her about if she has friends or not to help her. I did ask about help from Family but she said there is no Family to help her.
 
MysteryWoman dijo:
I have to agree with you, she does read here a lot so probably best to keep it that way for now. As for if ai had contact with her before no I didnt, she contacted me yesterday because she is beginning to have more and more doubts about him. As for seeking help I agree after what she has been through definitely best to seek help in a different way then talking to Phill or being with him. As for Family there isnt really any Family to be there for her no idea about friends though maybe she didnt want to bother her friends with her perosnal things if she has any since I havent really talked to her about if she has friends or not to help her. I did ask about help from Family but she said there is no Family to help her.
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Is she comfortable with being discussed in this thread in the first place?
 
It's a good thing there are no statutes of limitations so that something DSP did 5 years ago can still start getting investigated now.

It's also good that the local law enforcement are keeping her up to date on the strength of their case, all law enforcement agencies do that and it helps ensure justice isn't tampered with.
 
MysteryWoman dijo:
Yes she is or I wouldnt have posted about her at all
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Okay, I guess it just feels like we're talking behind her back, especially since it seems like she is very hesitant to make an account on here because she doesn't want personal things being discussed. I guess I'm just at a loss for what else to post. I'm sure it goes without saying that I and many others here have questions, but given the personal nature of the story and her feeling too uncomfortable to make an account, I don't know what can really be asked without being accused of chasing her away.

I guess I'll just ask, again, what's the end game here? Are you/her looking for proof of Phil being an asshole? Because we can certainly provide lots of instances of that.
 
Cyber Bowling dijo:
Okay, I guess it just feels like we're talking behind her back, especially since it seems like she is very hesitant to make an account on here because she doesn't want personal things being discussed. I guess I'm just at a loss for what else to post. I'm sure it goes without saying that I and many others here have questions, but given the personal nature of the story and her feeling too uncomfortable to make an account, I don't know what can really be asked without being accused of chasing her away.

I guess I'll just ask, again, what's the end game here? Are you/her looking for proof of Phil being an asshole? Because we can certainly provide lots of instances of that.
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In her case I gues she does need some kind of confirmation that he is indeed the biggest asshole around and that she doesnt make a mistake of pursuing anything further with him.

As for me I already know he's an asshole because he tried to screw me out of my money.

When i received my payment today I sended him a simple text message saying : Thanks for finally paying what you owed and let me be clear that I dont want anymore personal contact with you and will never accept any booking from you ever again but I will now always hold a grudge towards you for what you tried to do.

And that was it.
 
MysteryWoman dijo:
In her case I gues she does need some kind of confirmation that he is indeed the biggest asshole around and that she doesnt make a mistake of pursuing anything further with him.

As for me I already know he's an asshole because he tried to screw me out of my money.

When i received my payment today I sended him a simple text message saying : Thanks for finally paying what you owed and let me be clear that I dont want anymore personal contact with you and will never accept any booking from you ever again but I will now always hold a grudge towards you for what you tried to do.

And that was it.
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I mentioned it earlier, but I know things tend to get lost in the shuffle, but I'm glad he paid, even if it does mean we won't get to see any of the juicy content from the NDA.

As for Phil being an asshole, well, I think one of the best examples to show someone who is actually considering dating Phil is the end of the Leanna saga. The fact that he disclosed her personal information on stream and just his general behavior at the hospital should go to show how much he values his partners. His more recent comments about only wanting a girlfriend because it means a second source of income and having someone to cook food for him is also very telling.

Assuming this isn't asking too much, and I apologize if it is, but do you know what it is she actually likes about Phil/why she's thinking about staying with/dating him in the first place? This isn't an attempt to ask for proof or anything like that just to be perfectly clear, but it would be a lot easier to open her eyes and prevent concrete evidence if we knew what she was interested in. Otherwise, I think we might just be bringing up points that she doesn't care about/has already been brainwashed by Phil to overlook or the like.
 
MysteryWoman dijo:
I think what she needs the most is be convinced that Phill is not the right person to be with no matter how good he makes it because in the long run she ends up like Leanna and then wasted 5 years of her life on him.
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If she needs guidance and help well, we can help her but we might not be the best group of people in this regard. But I think we can give her the guidance she needs to steer clear of the pigroach. But it sounds like she needs help we certainly aren't qualified to give if she has thoughts about being with him in any kind of serious or long term aspect.
 
MysteryWoman dijo:
Tiffany is 22 years old as I have mentioned in the post i made and not 21.

As for the picture she emailed it, no idea how she took the picture or with what camera, does it even matter what camera someone uses to take a picture.
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If Tiffany is trying to say its a recent photo saying she's 22 with that low a resolution an old 8 bit per sample jpeg encoder that hasn't received a single update in 9 years then yeah I'm going to be skeptical that its:
  1. even her in the first place (do you think its her in the photo?)
  2. a recent photo which would put her age in question.
If anyone missed it I did a rather autistic analysis of the photo in question here:

MysteryWoman dijo:
Do we really have to go so far that we have to resort to telling this girl that she has to get a better camera or phone and take better pictures or she isnt welcome to be heard ?
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Absolutely not but as others have pointed out there are better ways of dealing with Phil. i.e go through the proper channels, as much as I'd like all the details on it. Its probably best I dont tbh so why even mention it on the farms in the first place if its something law enforcement should be involved in.
 
I spent days catching up a little per day, only to finally catch up and find out it went down with a whimper, not a bang. I am not sure what to think about the BSV stream, but I guess in the end it did give some of us the clue as to what was really going to happen. She was going to do what she wanted to do, and there was a solid chance we'd never find anything out.

Gotta be honest though, from the get-go I believed you but also thought since we were your leverage it wasn't likely we'd ever find anything out.

Now onto the Saga's Epilogue: Ruse Cruise (?)

Since the reveal was no reveal (despite the escort's identity being confirmed, and the escort confirming payment from DSP thus enforcing the NDA which would seemingly in itself violate the NDA or legally be argued as such) I guess now we just walk away and wait to see if we were not just leverage to make DSP squirm, but if it was just for giggles against us as well.

Thanks for the good times, @MysteryWoman . Seeing how displeased DSP was with your activities and the internet's reaction to them was a lot of fun.

tripmix dijo:
If Tiffany is trying to say...
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I have some theories on Tiffany if you want to talk about her in the Deanna thread or whatever it was called.
 
tripmix dijo:
If Tiffany is trying to say its a recent photo saying she's 22 with that low a resolution an old 8 bit per sample jpeg encoder that hasn't received a single update in 9 years then yeah I'm going to be skeptical that its:
  1. even her in the first place (do you think its her in the photo?)
  2. a recent photo which would put her age in question.
If anyone missed it I did a rather autistic analysis of the photo in question here:



Absolutely not but as others have pointed out there are better ways of dealing with Phil. i.e go through the proper channels, as much as I'd like all the details on it. Its probably best I dont tbh so why even mention it on the farms in the first place if its something law enforcement should be involved in.
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The law enforcement thing has nothing to do with Tiffany, 2 complete different girls, as to how she took the pic or with what camera i have no idea maybe she shrunk it for email purposes no idea im not good at looking into these things or maybe she just had it taken with an old camera and never bought a new one. I'm sure others still have older digital cameras laying around that they use, maybe she tought why buy a new one if the one i have works fine. But again i have no idea i just posted what was given and did not bother to check resolutions of the pic etc. But from the sound of her voice I would say yeah she is definitely not older then the age she has given me.

Btw. I just did a reverse google image search of my own with her picture and also found nothing, so the picture definitely doesnt come from online and also confirms her story about not using social media like twitter or facebook etc.
 
In regards to Tiffany coming here and registering an account I advised her to first contact @neger psykolog and @Null after making an account and run what she wants to tell by them before posting it on the forum just so there will be no misinterpretation of things and just so they know exactly what she is going to say and in what way. But that is just incase she wants to actually come here, for now she is just reading along as a guest and taking it all in. I also advised her to read the other threads about Phill so that maybe it will help her get a bigger picture about Phill.
 
MysteryWoman dijo:
In regards to Tiffany coming here and registering an account I advised her to first contact @neger psykolog and @Null after making an account and run what she wants to tell by them before posting it on the forum just so there will be no misinterpretation of things and just so they know exactly what she is going to say and in what way. But that is just incase she wants to actually come here, for now she is just reading along as a guest and taking it all in. I also advised her to read the other threads about Phill so that maybe it will help her get a bigger picture about Phill.
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Yes thats probably a good idea.
She doesn't need approval to post anything really, but with the volume of people interested its probably a good idea to have a dedicated thread.

We'd also probably need to see some proof of who she is (@Null would have to give his input because its his site) and the same level of confidentiality with regards to proof of identification would apply.

If she just wants to make a statement of some sort without having an account, then she's more than welcome to send me a private message and we can take it from there.

Also to fully clarify I only deal with the subforum here related to DSP, @Null is the owner/operator of the website and there are some other moderators too.
 
MysteryWoman dijo:
In regards to Tiffany coming here and registering an account I advised her to first contact @neger psykolog and @Null after making an account and run what she wants to tell by them before posting it on the forum just so there will be no misinterpretation of things and just so they know exactly what she is going to say and in what way. But that is just incase she wants to actually come here, for now she is just reading along as a guest and taking it all in. I also advised her to read the other threads about Phill so that maybe it will help her get a bigger picture about Phill.
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Don't think that'll go well for Tiffany. Whilst some will be supportive and sympathetic, without evidence of alleged wrongdoing by Phil they'll face fairly intense scrutiny.
 
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