🤝 Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[GenociderSyo]

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It's a shame that she abandoned the collar after like two posts

Chelsea is that you! We miss you Chelston!

 

[everybody in Portugal]

She recently got out of a long stint in a state psych hospital (late February - early May). Interestingly, we haven't seen an ng tube since February; maybe she's too focused on a different part of her terrible larp?

Oh no no no, that 100% tracks for her. She always removes the NG when medical professionals are around because it's so clear that she doesn't actually need it and she will feel the full weight of her fraudulence if they call her on it. Thanks for the update!

I'm amazed she can find any state in the nation that's still willing to take her in for an extended length of time, tbh. She gets nothing from it therapy-wise and just likes to revel in the asspats and proximity to 'medical' stuff, even if it's a psych ward. Her claim was always that places couldn't handle her complex medical needs, but that's bollocks, they (and we)just know that cluster Bs don't do well inpatient and end up in love with the attenshunz and dependent on it, as her countrywide questing would seem to prove.

Glad some of you are keeping an eye on her — I love her but I don't use SM and also she's boring as fuck mostly, so my only updates tend to come from here and occasional OtherFarms visits. Thanks, frens

 

[Trifecta]

Oh no no no, that 100% tracks for her. She always removes the NG when medical professionals are around because it's so clear that she doesn't actually need it and she will feel the full weight of her fraudulence if they call her on it. Thanks for the update!

Oh, yeah, for sure I expected her to have it out during the inpatient admission - I'm surprised that she doesn't seem to have reinserted it in the month since she was discharged, though. I feel like it usually shows back up a day or two later?

 

[everybody in Portugal]

Oh, yeah, for sure I expected her to have it out during the inpatient admission - I'm surprised that she doesn't seem to have reinserted it in the month since she was discharged, though. I feel like it usually shows back up a day or two later?

Ohh, my b, misinterpreted your comment there. Yeah, it surprises me too, tbh, but as you say she has probably just been focusing on a different bit of the larp and forgotten she can get her asspats that way. Who needs an NG when you can throw a tonic-clonic and pretend to fall out of your wheelchair, eh? (incidentally, I love that she just had to refer to it as her TiLite, lest we all otherwise think she has a normie/no-brand chair).

I look forward to more fake seizures and the like; wonder if she feels she has to compete with the other troons and munchies @GibMoneyPls mentioned — that house must be alternatingly hilarious and nightmarish when they're all decompensating or attenshun-seeking at the same time. I'd need respite care if I were Alex, but I suspect he has some problems of his own (or deep masochism) and quite enjoys being 'needed' by all those crazies around him.

 

[Smellee Cat]

These newnBPD girls will first be “trans” now. Or “gender non conforiming” “queer” “ally” but when the attention dries up, munchie.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

These newnBPD girls will first be “trans” now. Or “gender non conforiming” “queer” “ally” but when the attention dries up, munchie.

A 'ditch or an armwurst would actually be great for these people — genuinely sick and broken and needing constant medical treatment and revisions and antibiots and shit for the rest of their lives and being told they're stunning and brave for doing so? A munchie's dream! Surprised more haven't pooned out, tbh.

Speaking of, any news of Shelby/Julian recently? Iirc last we saw of her she was moving towards detransing a bit, but still munching.

 

[fartnite]

there’s a lot of funny content on the ol’ farms but that allyson ‘seizure’ video is possibly the funniest video I’ve ever seen. Nobody could ever have prepared me for how incredibly unbelievably fake that was, really takes me back to the good old Amanda/ren days :’)

 

[Fapcop]

To be fair, she's a hefty girl so faking that probably took quite a lot of effort and energy. Lol fat, she jiggles like a blancmange.

I've worked with numerous people with actually sever epilepsy of various types over the years and none of them presented quite like that during a tonic-clonic.

I love her, she's so transparently terrible at faking, and so beige and boring despite all her best efforts. She still toobing herself when the doctors aren't looking? What happened with her endless inpatient-care quest? #freealex

$50 says that “Skylar” is about to troon out and become a 100% real man.

There are only so many ways for a fat, ugly chick to get attention, and she clearly isn’t very good at munching.

Imagine her delight when service providers encourage her nonsense, instead of leaning her off on someone else.

 

[GibMoneyPls]

Since Allyson has been a topic here. Seems like the roommates aren't giving her enough attention so she's "seizing" like crazy. Pic was too good not to spread.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

Since Allyson has been a topic here. Seems like the roommates aren't giving her enough attention so she's "seizing" like crazy. Pic was too good not to spread.

I'll give her attention-by-proxy through you. Here's hoping she catches another on camera for us, preferably one that makes her fall out of her TiLite!

 

[TittlyWinks ;)]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vUz9xCTOPRw
In munchie news, Physics Girl has put on a show to prove she's really totally sick guise.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_IAeZaBpJpw

I know I'm late af, just wanted to point out that they want us to believe it took her an hour to eat that meal, including 10 solid minutes of scraping out the end of a bowl during the last few seconds of the vid. This timelapse is pure fakery. 3+ million subs, hundreds/thousands of asspat comments, though I'm sure they sanitize the hell out of them. What a world.

 

[KMFDM Sucks]

I don’t want to go look back at her list of fetishes to see if humiliation is one of them but I’m struggling to understand why she’d even come to the farms on her own accord. Humiliation? Slyly advertising her ‘services’ to anyone happen to read it by including ways to contact her? it’s obvious she’s been reading here and would know it only ever ends in further humiliation when a munchie shows to try prove their super real diagnosis while being to afraid to present anything resembling actual medical documentation while thinking we’d accept a “just trust me, bro”. It’s all just ick.

As a tangent to this - are humiliation fetishes even real? They just seem like an alternate presentation of "haha I was only pretending to be retarded" in the form of "haha you thinking I'm retarded makes me horny". It fits with the munchie profile at least.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

As a tangent to this - are humiliation fetishes even real? They just seem like an alternate presentation of "haha I was only pretending to be retarded" in the form of "haha you thinking I'm retarded makes me horny". It fits with the munchie profile at least.

Nope, it's real. A few of the sissification AGP freaks in stinkditch have it. Whether Rose actually does or is just lying about that too is another matter, but it's definitely a legit thing.

 

[Jupiter Doughnuts]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vUz9xCTOPRw
In munchie news, Physics Girl has put on a show to prove she's really totally sick guise.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_IAeZaBpJpw

She currently, as of the writing of this post, has 16,739 paid members and 25,610 total members (8,871 free members). The default pledge on her Patreon is $5, some will pledge less but many will pledge more. We can safely estimate she is making at least $75,000 a month right now, before she started munching she was likely making around $10,000 a month. She was making good money before, now she's making more than 99% of Americans. All for laying in bed all day. She so far has been very careful to not directly ask for money for medical bills etc.

Last time she came up I was leaning towards "severely depressed and in deep denial about it," but this seems like just a straight up grift. I can't get over just how healthy and put together she looks for someone who has supposedly spent years in bed in a dark room. Even people who are physically healthy but seriously mentally ill don't look this good.

 

[whiterock]

Both Rose and Allyson talk about having been in troubled teen programs, which 100% tracks, and I'm guessing more of the girls here were "in treatment" than have been identified. Those places are 1, magnets for kids who were already on the BPD track, and 2, breeding grounds for BPD/CPTSD/flavor du jour adverse reaction to trauma. If you didn't have it going in, you're liable to have it coming out. It's sort of a shame that they didn't stick it out until treatment acquired the reputation for abuse it has now, because they probably could have gotten a satisfying amount of internet attention and "i see you survivor's" with a whole lot less effort.

Spoiler: TTI sperg

Conservatively like 50% of the teenage girls who end up in treatment have a version of BPD and are just too young to get formally diagnosed, which is why most treatment programs are heavily DBT focused. The average treatment program is between 6 months and a year, more if you add on things like 2-3 months of wilderness therapy or 6 months of a stepdown school. You could not design an environment more conducive to lifelong psychological issues around attention.
Rose's "30 hours of therapy a week for 2 years" probably looked something like 2-3 hours of group therapy a day, plus a couple individual therapy sessions and family therapy to boot. 30 hours is a bit of an extreme estimate, but that shouldn't surprise anyone lol. I'd be very interested in the programs Rose went to, because there's a big difference between partial hospitalization/day school and full on residential plus wilderness plus hospital. Either way, not great, but the latter is what I'm talking about here. All of this more or less applies to ED treatment too.
Treatment is nonstop attention on the basis of having something wrong with you, and it is very competitive. Everyone is constantly informing on each other, often in group settings with an adult facilitator. Everyone knows the gory details of each other's trauma, or suicide attempts, or eating disorder, and the more you talk about your issues, the more you're rewarded for it. Constant focus is on getting better, but because this is a house/school full of BPD teen girls, everyone is really more interested in being the worst. After all, if you get all the way better, you leave. You become a social non-entity and are no longer the fixation of anyone there (in fact, your name will literally no longer be spoken, you'll be referred to by initials for HIPAA reasons). For a year, your life is a mental hospital themed cult, and then it suddenly ends, leaving people lacking purpose. It's a little like the failed gymnast pipeline- call it the failed fuckup pipeline.
Turning from mental health issues to physical ones is also a great way to make the attention you get not your fault. Threaten to kill yourself, get "gooned" and taken to treatment, get out, get sick, relive the structure and atmosphere of treatment only this time, nobody is making you recount your rape in front of male college students making minimum wage supervising you. If I had the time I'd take a long hard look at the teenage social medias of these girls, because if there's a year long gap, the odds are strong that they were in Utah feeding off a collective well of BPD and learning how to lie. For the record, I've never seen someone flex being in treatment on social media while there, only later once whatever program they were in inevitably shuts down.
The main form of entertainment in these places is also, generally, other people's insanity. (That and Mormon boomer approved movies, aka Disney.) It's a lol-calving ground. Kids run away, they shove stuff up their asses, they serially shit in the showers, they have sex with each other and adult staff, et cetera. It creates in a person a real appetite for other people's drama.
I'm not unsympathetic to the munchie reaction. Real munchausen's experts tend to talk about how recreating past medical trauma plays a role in munching, and the TTI itself is pretty consistently abusive. If such a thing as CPTSD exists, treatment is how you acquire it- look at any of the recent lawsuits and closures for an example of this. (Elan, Trails Carolina, Provo Canyon, Vista, Agape, etc). The TTI could use its own thread on here.
I've been aware of Allyson for years and my theory has always been that since getting out of an environment where she was constantly getting attention for her mental issues, she lacked an alternate source of attention and has been gradually reclaiming what she used to have.
The powerlevel here is probably obvious already but, PL, I know a version of most of these girls. They get out of treatment and flop back in, or don't and end up half heartedly in and out of mental hospitals until they realize that treatment itself is considered traumatic enough to justify a CPTSD label, at which point they settle down. Many are semi-munchies and a couple are full on, although not particularly interesting, nor public with it. As an aside, the rise of discourse around the TTI has led to the emergence of a few people faking having gone to treatment, or pretending to have gone to residential when they didn't, since an "RTC" is where the clout is these days.

TL;DR- Allyson, Rose, and probably others lived irl sickstagram/mental-healthstagram years before doing any of this, and probably miss it, hard.

 

[The Hoh Rainforest]

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Thanks for the perspective. In your opinion, what would be a better way to treat these girls, or modify existing residential treatment to prevent toxic social dynamics from developing? Is group therapy a net positive or negative at these places?

 

[Chub Rub]

The TTI could use its own thread on here.

There is one.

 

[whiterock]

Thanks for the perspective. In your opinion, what would be a better way to treat these girls, or modify existing residential treatment to prevent toxic social dynamics from developing? Is group therapy a net positive or negative at these places?

Spoiler: more tti sperging

These places are basically universally detrimental, both in theory and practice. Taking kids out of the real world, not letting them talk to anyone outside of their program, and just doing therapy 24/7 doesn't really translate to actual improvement. Lots of kids are great while in treatment and terrible outside of it, or the reverse. I heard the statistic that 70% fail in the first year from the head honcho of one program, so it's probably a bit higher. These places are also almost universally abusive and are typically covering up a whole lot of shit- sending kids back to family members who have admitted to sexually abusing them was a common theme. Staff on teenager sexual assault was like, an every six months kind of thing, and never went to the police.
It's fashionable now to discuss the TTI in absolute terms of abolishment- see TikTok "survivor" discourse- but there's always going to be a class of unstable teenagers who need some sort of intervention. I don't know what the answer is, probably just intensive therapy with mental hospitals as a last resort. And public healthcare. The TTI seems to be rapidly self destructing right now, but I'm sure it will return.

For BPD in particular, it sets an impossible-to-replicate expectation for how much drama one can cause and people like Allyson spend the next however long chasing that, replicating that, coping with that, however you phrase it.

 

[Flourishing Pinecone ❧]

There is one.

Jesus just the first post is harrowing

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Jesus just the first post is harrowing

Yeah that whole thread is a hard read but thankfully some of these monsters are finally getting what they've deserved for decades.