Modern Cartoon Network

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Didn't help that most of the shows were just inferior knock-offs of reality shows on other networks. BrainRush was just Cash Cab on a roller coaster, The Othersiders was a bog standard paranormal investigation show, Bobb'e Says was AFV with a more annoying host, and Dude, What Would Happen was Mysthbusters without the science, and thus without a point.
 
Fat Tub of Lard dijo:
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Sadly, no. Look at the press releases. They mention actual live-action shit, including some really Disney Channel-sounding sitcom.

Also, something called Tweety Mysteries, which I though was gonna be along the lines of The Sylvester and Tweety Mysteries, until I saw the blurb.

So no, it's not just the movies. CN really are retarded enough to make the same mistake twice. All in the name of feeding the AT&T mothership.
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Ain't that some shit. Good luck CN lmao, you're gonna need it.
 
I stopped watching the channel around the late 2000s. For those who may not know the true beginning of the end for the channel itself was December 2006. There was some okay shows being aired/produced back then but looking back even before 2006 the biggest red flag came that something was wrong when Ed Edd n Eddy's 5th season started (2005) and all of a sudden the characters are no longer in summertime but attending junior high school.

Then December 2006 happened and a made-for-tv movie aired called Re-Animated. This was when the channel began to really lose its identity when it started re-airing Canadian animation and producing/airing live-action content. Prior to that the closest you got to live action on Cartoon Network was when they aired the movie Osmosis Jones or Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I still don't understand why it all happened but my personal conspiracy theory was that the management wanted to really compete with Disney Channel and Nickelodeon by being just like them.

Regardless of the reasoning these decisions permanently altered the network and it hasn't truly been the same since.
 
General Gunther dijo:
I stopped watching the channel around the late 2000s. For those who may not know the true beginning of the end for the channel itself was December 2006. There was some okay shows being aired/produced back then but looking back even before 2006 the biggest red flag came that something was wrong when Ed Edd n Eddy's 5th season started (2005) and all of a sudden the characters are no longer in summertime but attending junior high school.

Then December 2006 happened and a made-for-tv movie aired called Re-Animated. This was when the channel began to really lose its identity when it started re-airing Canadian animation and producing/airing live-action content. Prior to that the closest you got to live action on Cartoon Network was when they aired the movie Osmosis Jones or Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I still don't understand why it all happened but my personal conspiracy theory was that the management wanted to really compete with Disney Channel and Nickelodeon by being just like them.

Regardless of the reasoning these decisions permanently altered the network and it hasn't truly been the same since.
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Maybe they should do what international versions did in the 90s


Animated works at day classic movies at night. And some rasslin as well, but WCW isn't around instead we get Tony Khan's version.
 
I stopped watching CN when it became teen titians go 24/7. My favorite shows on CN was chowder and reruns of older cartoons like courage the cowardly dog and Billy and Mandy. While I did like Adventure time and regular show as I kid, I stop watching both because i didnt like how it became about girl problems.
 
crows in guns dijo:
I stopped watching CN when it became teen titians go 24/7. My favorite shows on CN was chowder and reruns of older cartoons like courage the cowardly dog and Billy and Mandy. While I did like Adventure time and regular show as I kid, I stop watching both because i didnt like how it became about girl problems.
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Adventure Time is basically the originator of the modern Cal-Arts Style Cartoons we see today. It should also be noted that Pendleton Ward the series creator went to that school.

I hate the fact that we surrendered using the term Cal-Arts Style and replaced it with Bean mouth style. The initial reason cartoon stans on Twitter would dunk on you for using that term was because John K of Ren and Stimpy coined it.

But that’s why we should’ve kept using it. Everyone in the industry on some level was quiet about, personally knew or knew someone who knew what kind of person John K truly was. The only reason we even publicly know he’s a pedophile was because Buzzfeed decided to do actual journalism for once. The industry protected him until he was exposed.

We could've dunked on the industry and it’s fans over and over again if we just brought that up instead we got insecure that a bunch of spergs made fun of the term Cal-Arts style. Pathetic.
 
General Gunther dijo:
Adventure Time is basically the originator of the modern Cal-Arts Style Cartoons we see today. It should also be noted that Pendleton Ward the series creator went to that school.

I hate the fact that we surrendered using the term Cal-Arts Style and replaced it with Bean mouth style. The initial reason cartoon stans on Twitter would dunk on you for using that term was because John K of Ren and Stimpy coined it.

But that’s why we should’ve kept using it. Everyone in the industry on some level was quiet about, personally knew or knew someone who knew what kind of person John K truly was. The only reason we even publicly know he’s a pedophile was because Buzzfeed decided to do actual journalism for once. The industry protected him until he was exposed.

We could've dunked on the industry and it’s fans over and over again if we just brought that up instead we got insecure that a bunch of spergs made fun of the term Cal-Arts style. Pathetic.
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Like i said I was a kid when those cartoons came out and teenager when teen titians go came out.
 
There was a cartoon renaissance in the 90s, to be frank, where you had a sweet spot that we'll probably never have again.

It's something similar to what happened in the 60s and 70s in music, where you had older executives who didn't understand new trends, who just gave the reigns of creative freedom to a new generation of people because "who are they to judge what's hip" and it paid off well.

I think that you had that in the 90s as well, coming out of 80's cartoons which were just advertisements for GI Joe toys or Hannah Barbara rip offs, where cartoons were seen as somewhat more niche and a lot of executives, cartoon network included, were willing to take risks and just gave the creative reigns to probably the best generation of animators out there.

I don't think we're ever going to see a naked meterosexual devil or whatever else they were smoking before making the cartoon-cartoons again. In part, like Nickelodeon, cartoon network was both a victim of it's own success, and a victim of the need to guarantee money for its investors.

In Nickelodeon, because spongebob was so popular, the channel basically became the spongebob channel, and almost all future cartoons were just rip offs of spongebob either visually, comically, or thematically (rip Wild Thornberries).

I think cartoon network went through something similar, where animators had much less creative freedom, and shows now had to be green lit that the executives thought would be financially successful. Its why certain beloved series, like Ed Edd n Eddy, dragged on needlessly, or why you basically had endless rip offs of Adventure time in the 2010s (or shows that attempted to capitalize on current issues to preach to their choir, which still is popular I guess). Its also why you had the channel become Teen Titans Go central for awhile (I was initially receptive of that show, but my god, the way they tried to milk it just turned me off said show entirely).

There's fewer and fewer shows where creators are given complete freedom, and as the industry is becoming more insular and has its own internal politics as well, even when someone is given freedom, theyre likely to have clawed their way to the position of having their own show by sucking up to the right political causes and their show usually becomes infused by that.

Shows like Gumball, Flapjack, maybe Clarence are fun- but I really just think that these are the exceptions, rather than the rule, at CN.
 
DiscoRodeo dijo:
I think cartoon network went through something similar, where animators had much less creative freedom, and shows now had to be green lit that the executives thought would be financially successful. Its why certain beloved series, like Ed Edd n Eddy, dragged on needlessly, or why you basically had endless rip offs of Adventure time in the 2010s (or shows that attempted to capitalize on current issues to preach to their choir, which still is popular I guess). Its also why you had the channel become Teen Titans Go central for awhile (I was initially receptive of that show, but my god, the way they tried to milk it just turned me off said show entirely).
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I would go against this. CN and Warner in general seem to give quite a bit of creative control to their creators. AT, Regular Show, Gumball, Steven, and others all seemed very creator centric with CN just letting things happen.

I think the real downfall was just connections. It is no secret that animation has always been a particularly incestous industry, even back in the golden era of the 90s CN was primarily built by the same group of friends. Current CN started with Adventure Time, which gave Sugar an outlet to greenlight Steven, which gave Ian the greenlight for O.K. K.O. and Burnett the greenlight for Craig of The Creek. The only real studio driven decisions seemed to be the 3 reboots: Ben 10, PPG, and TTG.

As for the overplaying of TTG, well, this was always an issue for starters. Scooby Doo and Johnny Test were used the same way previously. Even looking past that, I believe two things occurred. The TV audience got smaller, thus CN played their biggest hit over others that were more so liked by adults, and streaming. For awhile, CN had a streaming app, and HBO Max was in production for a bit. I wonder if CN was intentionally killing the channel to place all cards into a streaming future.
 
This obsession with representation is getting out of hand. Black sign language? Really?
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