MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way

[William Tell Underpass]

The real fun is that this strong Man Going His Own Way, refusing to cohabitate with leeching, lazy women, lives with his mum and doesn’t have a job. The irony has my sides in orbit.

Isn't that always the way with them though?

 

[Ex Cummunicated Sasser HD]

Lol mate my thoughts exactly when I read it. He’s gonna get a lot of very interested fellow bachelors trying to fill up his dance card.

Call me late but I knew a few people who were obviously older than me that called themselves "bachelors". Yeah they were gay, but they kept it on the downlow, and some of them just went asexual, because they didn't want a scandal. Everyone knew and didn't really care and that was just a euphemism for being gay. Talking to them, apart from the odd gay bashing which was just the usual lager lout shite, they got on with it and nobody cared. I have two godfathers who are great and bad people, because nobody is perfect but it wasn't even a thing in the 70's when I was born... Both my godparents are faggots, and I'm ok with that, and they are always gonna be faggots.

 

[Trashfire Garbagefuck]

Has anyone here ever met a radical feminist or MGTOW radical in real life?

sorta, I had a friend who was kinda like that before mgtow existed , or at least before it was known about. largely avoided women he wasn't related to and thought they were out to get him and all other men. he had several instances where women poked holes in the condom to try and trap him and it made him paranoid and resentful. I lost track of him years ago, he was actually pleasant to talk to when he wasn't on a weird rant about women which was thankfully rare. I hope he didn't find his way into mgtow, they'd ruin the guy. never had a friend go full batshit radical feminist, just mildly woke.

 

[Bob Barker]

Not to burst everyone's bubble but this channel has only 4 videos and 8 subs. His channel's prior videos were devoted to "Anarcho-Socialism." Are you sure this isn't just a big troll?

At any rate he's not the kind of guy you think he is. If he's being at all truthful he's a hardcore anarchist and far, far to the left of any feminists. He claims to be MGTOW because he doesn't support "irresponsible breeding."

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Yeah as funny as that video is it was obviously either a troll or just some crazy fringe. Funny as shit but you're a retard if you think its representative of the MGTOW movement.

 

[Dread First]

The feminists call us incels. The incels call us feminazis. We can't win with degenerates, can we?

 

[karz]

Oh drat, foiled again

And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling MGTOWs!

 

[Pee Cola]

We've got a live one, right here on the farms.

This was just several days prior to our brave MGTOW hero subjecting KF to his rigourous First Amendment Audit process. If you look at the video (around 2:40), this very post is clearly visible.

Spoiler: SCREENSHOT

It could be a coincidence. Or it could be that our MGOTW friend was so triggered by having his attempted MGTOW love-in carted out to Spergatory that he just had to reeeeee at us in retaliation.

$5 says it's the latter.

 

[Amya Spedonym]

via @CatParty:

Domestic Terrorist Website KiwiFarms fails at thwarting MGTOW(First Amendment Audit)

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So, wait, basically this is the sped who came and started a MGTOW "no girls allowed" thread, and he got neg rated and his thread shipped off to spergatory, so he went to YouTube to chimp out about how the Farms failed his First Amendment Audit because we're Feminazi Jezebel Domestic Terrorists?

That's pretty exceptional. I feel like only obscurity is standing between him and his own thread.

EDIT: I see that @Robert Sanvagene is drawing the same conclusion.

 

[DumbDude42]

While there are exceptions, MGTOW are as a rule economically right wing and want to be left alone while feminists are as a rule economically left wing and think the state has the duty to make women equal to men at all costs. That, and MGTOW tends to be a lot more decentralized whereas feminists focus more on "activism". MRAs focus on activism as well but... well, 50 years of trying that has netted them exactly zero victories.

activism is a noob trap

activism is effective if (and only if) the position you are advocating for already has significant support in the media. if the media likes and supports your movement then you will be portrayed as heroic and selfless revolutionaries speaking out against grave injustice, if the media dislikes and shuns your movement then you will be portrayed as crazy, dumb, immoral, unpleasant and dangerous.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

via @CatParty:

Domestic Terrorist Website KiwiFarms fails at thwarting MGTOW(First Amendment Audit)

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This is probably the funniest slander against KiwiFarms and it's users I've seen so far, because it's so absurd and far out there. He's comparing this website and it's users to the people who did 9/11. That's why it's so god damn funny.

 

[Stoneheart]

This is probably the funniest slander against KiwiFarms and it's users I've seen so far, because it's so absurd and far out there. He's comparing this website and it's users to the people who did 9/11. That's why it's so god damn funny.

They called us Joos?

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Men Gaying Their Own Waddies.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

While the Incel's have slid into MGTOW in the last few years this began as a group for bitter divorced men who wanted a way out of paying child support.

 

[Pepsi-Cola]

Has anyone here ever met a radical feminist or MGTOW radical in real life? I know I haven't, and I haven't exactly lived a sheltered life, I did a degree in fine art, and worked in the media for a time and worked within the arts also, so just by going on numbers if the internet is to be believed I should have seen one at some point. Only person who I ever met who could be labelled a "radical feminist" was a batshit insane BPD lesbian who frankly even wound up ostracising herself from every straight or gay women I knew as well.

I mean I know a tonne of self described feminists, but they are not batshit insane, and they have good talking points, and aren't afraid of valid criticism, and whether I am friends with them or not, they are not lunatics like the radicals on both sides.

edit: I think there isn't a whole lot of people that crazy, but as we all know the internet has a very strange side effect that those who would have zero social life 20 years ago are now followed, egged on and discussed by tens of thousands of similar sad sacks.

The honest answer to this is simply that the internet is attractive to social rejects and unlikable weirdos. Radical femnazis and MGTOW MRA keyboard warriors are uncommon irl because nobody likes them. Who wants to hangout with or work with someone who's constantly being negative and views the entire world through an extremely narrow perspective?

If these types of people expressed their beliefs away from internet echo-chambers, they'd probably be ostracized until they finally realized how dumb they were acting or at the very least became a little more open-minded. Seriously, look at heavy left-wing twitter pages or alt-right forums like stormfront, it's literally just dozens of bot-like posters repeating the same talking points over and over again like they're reading off of a script.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Has anyone here ever met a radical feminist or MGTOW radical in real life? I know I haven't, and I haven't exactly lived a sheltered life, I did a degree in fine art, and worked in the media for a time and worked within the arts also, so just by going on numbers if the internet is to be believed I should have seen one at some point. Only person who I ever met who could be labelled a "radical feminist" was a batshit insane BPD lesbian who frankly even wound up ostracising herself from every straight or gay women I knew as well.

You were lucky lol. I did a BA and graduate degree in one of the humanities (keeping it vague) and I've seen at least one in every lecture and seminar I've been to. Sometimes it's the professor.

I've even seen them form firsthand from women who came from single-mother households. A few of my friends from high school and some of my former friends from college (all with severe daddy issues) are now raging pro-tranny radfems, sort of the equal opposite of the TERFs you see people whine about.

Academia is lousy with these people, I guess is what my point is.

 

[Neko GF]

The feminists call us incels. The incels call us feminazis. We can't win with degenerates, can we?

Kiwi Farms is the duct tape of internet boogiemen. Almost every group of exceptional individuals can find some way to use the Farms as a boogieman to try and garner sympathy.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Kiwi Farms is the duct tape of internet boogiemen. Almost every group of exceptional individuals can find some way to use the Farms as a boogieman to try and garner sympathy.

If all the insane extremists hate you, you are doing something correct.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

Kiwi Farms is the duct tape of internet boogiemen. Almost every group of exceptional individuals can find some way to use the Farms as a boogieman to try and garner sympathy.

We should begin to offer our services as professional boogeymen. Maybe that way we can help finance the forum.

 

[#zzz]

I mean I know a tonne of self described feminists, but they are not batshit insane, and they have good talking points, and aren't afraid of valid criticism, and whether I am friends with them or not, they are not lunatics like the radicals on both sides.

No one should be a "self-described feminist". Women having the same legal rights as Men and being afforded the same opportunities is law already, it's like saying you are a supporter of Police and Courts existing. It's the default position. The only way you can say you are feminist these days is if you say something like Women need things over Men, special priviledges, special treatment, special safe zones where they don't feel under threat. I wonder if this means someone who is a Feminist are actually sexist towards Women? That they can't handle things?

 

[The Crow]

I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here and say that you're wrong. In general, there's a massive difference between MGTOW and feminists that is very much overlooked: the role of the state in regards to gender. The mindset of feminists seems to be something like this:

Premise 1: Men and women are equal
Premise 2: Men and women do not achieve equal results
Conclusion: There is some untouchable factor that discriminates against women (micro-aggressions, "the patriarchy" et cetera).
Solution: The state must be involved in dismantling "the patriarchy" (through the use of gender quota's, various female-only beneficial programs, the Duluth model et cetera).

The mindset of MGTOW and MRAs alike seems to be the mirror image of the feminist reasoning, as in its similar but at the same time the opposite.

Premise 1: Men and women are -formally- equal before the law
Premise 2: There are many laws, programs and policies that actively benefit women over men
Conclusion: The state is actively discriminatory against men
Solution: The state must be restrained, either by reducing actively misandrist elements (MRAs), rolling back state power altogether (libertarians) or by undermining the state through non-participation (MGTOW).

While there are exceptions, MGTOW are as a rule economically right wing and want to be left alone while feminists are as a rule economically left wing and think the state has the duty to make women equal to men at all costs. That, and MGTOW tends to be a lot more decentralized whereas feminists focus more on "activism". MRAs focus on activism as well but... well, 50 years of trying that has netted them exactly zero victories.

That's just my two cents. IMO it's a lot more complex than the blanket statement that feminists and MGTOW are the exact same.

You bring up a very good point here, though two things:

1. I was actually referring to radical feminists as opposed to just regular feminists who just simply want equal rights and the same opportunities as men. The radical feminists, obvious, are the ones who absolutely hate men, or just simply see men as stupid and mentally/socially inferior, while fearing them for 9 times out of 10, being physically inferior to men.

2. The point of me stating that both groups are alike, is because they are so similar, because they are essentially polar opposites, as you have already mentioned. Both have essentially the same bitterly negative view in regards to the opposite gender, yet are alike, because of those specific views.