Men Write Women - Or: How I Learned To Stop Loving Literature and Worry About Patriarchy

[TFT-A9]

To be fair, though, when male characters are flawed, you're still going to hear cries of sexism - it just doesn't come from feminists.

Like?

I've yet to see any hue and cry from the media about some of the monsters-in-men's-skins GRRM cooked up, as one relatively recent example.

 

[NNewt84]

Like?

I've yet to see any hue and cry from the media about some of the monsters-in-men's-skins GRRM cooked up, as one relatively recent example.

Guys complain all the time about how The Simpsons is sexist for portraying Homer as a bumbling idiot, and Bart as an underachiever, while Marge is more sensible and Lisa is smart and studious. Similarly, when Frozen came out, everyone was bashing on it for its portrayal of male characters, namely Kristoff as a sperg and Hans as an out-of-nowhere asshole. And when Inside Out came out, everyone pointed out how the father was just thinking about sports while at the dinner table, and that the mother was thinking of some hot Brazilian guy.

The funny thing is, though, if you were to take Bart and make him a girl, the feminists would probably love that - they'd praise the hell out of "her" for being a plucky tomboy who defies gender roles and goes against social norms. Meanwhile, the antifeminists would complain because she's just a boy with a vagina, girls don't act like that, etc., and that her younger brother is a socially inept nerd who doesn't even eat meat.

On a side note, I sometimes refer to the main three girls on Harvey Street Kids as "girl Bart" (Audrey), "black Lisa" (Dot) and "girl Homer" (Lotta), respectively. And this is the show that (occasionally) panders to feminists.

 

[TFT-A9]

Guys complain all the time about how The Simpsons is sexist for portraying Homer as a bumbling idiot, and Bart as an underachiever, while Marge is more sensible and Lisa is smart and studious.

Okay. Got citations for that?

Similarly, when Frozen came out, everyone was bashing on it for its portrayal of male characters, namely Kristoff as a sperg and Hans as an out-of-nowhere asshole. And when Inside Out came out, everyone pointed out how the father was just thinking about sports while at the dinner table, and that the mother was thinking of some hot Brazilian guy.

News to me. All I could hear when Frozen came out were people CLAIMING men were just upset they didn't get to be the hero of a story for once, which... didn't line up with anything else I was hearing. I have never heard a single man give the slightest shit about Frozen beyond getting the movie and the toys for their kids.

The funny thing is, though, if you were to take Bart and make him a girl, the feminists probably wouldn't care - they'd praise the hell out of "her" for being a plucky tomboy who defies gender roles and goes against social norms. Meanwhile, the antifeminists would complain because she's just a boy with a vagina, girls don't act like that, etc., and that her younger brother is a socially inept nerd who doesn't even eat meat.

Interesting hypothesis.

On a side note, I sometimes refer to the main three girls on Harvey Street Kids as "girl Bart" (Audrey), "black Lisa" (Dot) and "girl Homer" (Lotta), respectively. And this is the show that (occasionally) panders to feminists.

Not familiar with it.

 

[LiquidKid]

Guys complain all the time about how The Simpsons is sexist for portraying Homer as a bumbling idiot, and Bart as an underachiever, while Marge is more sensible and Lisa is smart and studious. Similarly, when Frozen came out, everyone was bashing on it for its portrayal of male characters, namely Kristoff as a sperg and Hans as an out-of-nowhere asshole. And when Inside Out came out, everyone pointed out how the father was just thinking about sports while at the dinner table, and that the mother was thinking of some hot Brazilian guy.

No one authentically cries sexism over the Simpsons. They only do so as a counter to “women are all stereotypes” as a means to show that in comedy, everyone is a stereotype of something.
People complain about Hans in Frozen because he was solely a villain for the sake of having a villain in a story that didn’t actually need a villain, and because there was nothing in his portrayal up until the end that would lead you to believe he was a villain. A twist is fine, but you need to plant foreshadowing for it to be effective. Kristoff, like Olaf, simply had no actual impact on the story whatsoever and almost nothing of value would be lost without him. No one thought he was sexist.
Ironically, the opposite happened when the film first came out because someone people believed it was sexist that Elsa and Ana looked like Barbie dolls while the male characters looked more cartoony.
There was no Inside about sexism controversy, you were just assmad at a joke.

The funny thing is, though, if you were to take Bart and make him a girl, the feminists would probably love that - they'd praise the hell out of "her" for being a plucky tomboy who defies gender roles and goes against social norms. Meanwhile, the antifeminists would complain because she's just a boy with a vagina, girls don't act like that, etc., and that her younger brother is a socially inept nerd who doesn't even eat meat.
On a side note, I sometimes refer to the main three girls on Harvey Street Kids as "girl Bart" (Audrey), "black Lisa" (Dot) and "girl Homer" (Lotta), respectively. And this is the show that (occasionally) panders to feminists.

Nobody cares about what you think of the children’s cartoons on Netflix. Or the fact that those characters are just more modern interpretations of vintage Harvey Comic characters, or have you never heard of Little Audrey and Little Dot(she used to be white, and we know how you feel about making white characters black)

 

[Tasty Tatty]

That opinion about how Marge and Lisa are "good" while Homer and Bart aren't is something I've seen around and I somehow agree. A lot of tv shows have moved from portraying husbands and fathers from being open and goofs to be simpletons and stupid. Doesn't happen with the women.

I guess it comes from the "ask your mother" stereotype, but most modern writers can't do it right. Bill Cosby and Uncle Phill were more relaxed than their wives, but they weren't stupid and the power balance in the relationship was equal. Even Jack Arnold who was always portrayed as The Man of the House type and was always on the edge of a heart attack had some moments when you could see he was "afraid" of his wife and he played along the trope with his sons (he literally says "ask your mother" in one episode). The problem with Homer isn't isolated, especially in animation, but I think it has more to do with the Simpsons being shit now. The last animated show that managed that trope well (goof father, responsible mother, but both are ok and love children) was, imo, Daria.

 

[samuraicrack]

Most of the shit that comes from this side of Twitter/Reddit is directed at terrible smut at the back of book stores written for lonely crazy cat women like 99% of the time. I think they tried to bitch about Game of Thrones' female characters once but even then there was some infighting among the community, which kinda goes to show that they'll only go after really low hanging fruit about weird breast movement from dudes who probably aren't that great at writing to begin with, let alone good at writing female characters.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

There's an entire subreddit of that shit as well. Like 70% of the romance books that have dudes with rippling 90-packs on the front aren't full of unrealistic writing of men. It's fiction. Most of the characters are probably not going to be realistic.

You know who else focused on realistic writing

Socialist realism[edit]
See also: Proletarian literature
Socialist realism is the official Soviet art form that was institutionalized by Joseph Stalin in 1934 and was later adopted by allied Communist parties worldwide.[16] This form of realism held that successful art depicts and glorifies the proletariat's struggle toward socialist progress. The Statute of the Union of Soviet Writers in 1934 stated that socialist realism

is the basic method of Soviet literature and literary criticism. It demands of the artist the truthful, historically concrete representation of reality in its revolutionary development. Moreover, the truthfulness and historical concreteness of the artistic representation of reality must be linked with the task of ideological transformation and education of workers in the spirit of socialism.[19]
The strict adherence to the above tenets, however, began to crumble after the death of Stalin when writers started expanding the limits of what is possible. However, the changes were gradual since the social realism tradition was so ingrained into the psyche of the Soviet literati that even dissidents followed the habits of this type of composition, rarely straying from its formal and ideological mold.[20] The Soviet socialist realism did not exactly emerge on the very day it was promulgated in the Soviet Union in 1932 by way of a decree that abolished independent writers' organizations. This movement has been existing for at least fifteen years and was first seen during the Bolshevik Revolution. The 1934 declaration only formalized its canonical formulation through the speeches of the revolutionary Maxim Gorky and Andrea Zhdanov, the representative of the Party's Central Committee.

The official definition of social realism has been criticized for its conflicting framework. While the concept itself is simple, discerning scholars struggle in reconciling its elements. According to Peter Kenez, "it was impossible to reconcile the teleological requirement with realistic presentation," further stressing that "the world could either be depicted as it was or as it should be according to theory, but the two are obviously not the same."[21]

 

[Prompt Critical]

Oh hey, there's a thread for this particular brand of autism. Nice.

I ran into this one in the wild a few days ago:

Now, to preface, Jim Butcher is a terrible writer and there's a huge amount of legitimately bad stuff you can pick on in his work.

But the replies full of women who are so assmad about this paragraph is simply comedic. It does not seem to have occurred to anyone involved in the discussion that:

1. The book is (childishly) written in a limited first person perspective so it doesn't actually matter if women do this or not, because it's just saying that the author self-insert protagonist believes they do;

2. There is actually a fair body of research showing that yes, on the whole women do something almost exactly like what the author describes (you can google "Visual Attention Pattern Heat Maps" if you want to see some advertising studies that visualize this process and yes, it's very gender-distinct);

3. It really doesn't seem to occur to anyone responding here that their personal anecdote about their own behavior doesn't provide much value to disprove a generalization, regardless of how snarky you make it.

 

[SamTheEagle]

I've only read the first three Dresden Files books, and I see them get a lot of flack for sexualizing women. It's the first person perspective of a straight man who also tends to be on the horny side of things. Of course he checks out every attractive woman he runs into.

Hell, men and women look each other over all the time. If the POV character is attracted to the person they're looking at, chances are they're going to look at the parts they find appealing. Generally, I think the best approach is to keep in mind who's the POV and what they'd actually think about. When Sally's telling the story, she probably won't think about her boobs (unless they're getting in the way), but Bob will notice them. Likewise Bob won't think much about his chiseled jawline when he's telling the story, but Sally will point it out when we're in her head.
Unless, of course, the whole point of the story is about sexy people in titillating situations. In which case, carry on (and don't apologize).

 

[NNewt84]

Oh boy, you again. Well, let's go over your points, then.

No one authentically cries sexism over the Simpsons. They only do so as a counter to “women are all stereotypes” as a means to show that in comedy, everyone is a stereotype of something.

Hoo boy, you're gonna have a heart attack when you see the episode "Lisa the Simpson".

People complain about Hans in Frozen because he was solely a villain for the sake of having a villain in a story that didn’t actually need a villain, and because there was nothing in his portrayal up until the end that would lead you to believe he was a villain. A twist is fine, but you need to plant foreshadowing for it to be effective. Kristoff, like Olaf, simply had no actual impact on the story whatsoever and almost nothing of value would be lost without him. No one thought he was sexist.

Oh really? No-one thinks Frozen is sexist? https://www.mamamia.com.au/is-frozen-sexist/

Ironically, the opposite happened when the film first came out because someone people believed it was sexist that Elsa and Ana looked like Barbie dolls while the male characters looked more cartoony.

I actually remember hearing about that on a daytime talk show, and the guys justified it by saying it's a cartoon.

I've also heard this criticism levied at Inside Out, where the female emotions are designed to be cute, while the male emotions are more zany and exaggerated. However, this time, it was addressed as a sleight against men, saying that men are all ugly and women beautiful/pretty. Point is, everyone's a bunch of pansies who like to claim "sexism" at everything one way or the other (or both).

There was no Inside about sexism controversy, you were just assmad at a joke.

I personally didn't mind the dinner scene - if anything, I actually relate to Riley's dad going off into his own world and thinking about other stuff, since I fall into this trap in my daily life. (And I'm sure you're going to use that against me at some point.) I was just stating that other people called sexism on it, because he was thinking about sports specifically.

Nobody cares about what you think of the children’s cartoons on Netflix.

My point was to show how the archetypes we see on The Simpsons and similar shows aren't necessarily gendered, as we see similar characters in other shows who aren't the same gender. Though, in retrospect, I probably should've brought up Gravity Falls as an example, since Dipper and Mabel are basically a gender-swap of the usual "foolish boy, responsible girl" duo we see on shows like The Simpsons, Futurama, Crash Bandicoot, Kim Possible, The Amazing World of Gumball, etc.

Or the fact that those characters are just more modern interpretations of vintage Harvey Comic characters, or have you never heard of Little Audrey and Little Dot(she used to be white, and we know how you feel about making white characters black)

Dude... I was a fan of the Little Audrey cartoons as early as 2015/16, long before Harvey Street Kids was even a thing. Hell, the reason I got into the show was because I was a fan of Little Audrey, and I was curious to see what a modern-day interpretation of her would look like. And needless to say, she didn't disappoint.

And to prove I'm not bullshitting, here's a video I released in 2017 where I mention the character (around 5:18 ):

ARC Commentaries - #2. Crazy Millenials That Are Decidedly Regressive [Cracked]

ARC Video #100! Feminism 101 syllabus: Watch 'The Buzz on Maggie' and 'Inside Out'. Run time: approx. 33 and a half minutes. Original video: https://www.yout...

www.youtube.com

Hell, I actually found out about Little Dot first, since she was briefly mentioned in the Simpsons episode "I Am Furious (Yellow)" (i.e. the Angry Dad episode). While Bart is trying to think of a name for a new comic book hero, he thinks of names such as Batman and Green Lantern, only to realise that - what a shock - those names are already taken. Marge steps in, thinking Bart is intentionally plagiarising, and suggests that he rips off Little Dot, because no-one will ever know. (Man, hindsight is such a bitch!)

So, naturally, I was curious to find out who this "Little Dot" was, and it turned out to be... some girl who likes painting dots. Yeah... not exactly a thrilling concept, but I did end up discovering Little Audrey through her, as well as rediscover the earlier Little Lulu character, who I previously only knew from her own reboot series that aired in the late 1990s. (Talk about history repeating itself on multiple levels!)

And as for Dot being black on the new show, the difference is that she's not a PC-pandering SJW Mary Sue libtard buffoon meant to steal the show and show just awesome black people can be. Instead, she's the token black character - it's a trope that's been done on other shows such as Punky Brewster, The Simpsons, South Park (where his name is literally Token Black), Family Guy, LazyTown, that show that must not be named, Kim Possible, Miraculous Ladybug, and even another Netflix cartoon with a plucky tomboy protagonist, Hilda. It's basically a way to show that, yeah, we care about black representation, but just so you know, we're still a white boys'/girls' club, and you're just here to be the black girl/guy.

Granted, Dot does show feminist tendencies on Harvey Street Kids, but even then she's what intersectionals would call a "white feminist", i.e. a feminist who doesn't bring race or other non-gender demographics into it. (Personally, I would prefer "non-intersectional feminist", but "white feminist" is just what they call it.) And freakin' kudos to the show for having a black female feminist character and not making it intersectional! (Shit, now I'm a hypocrite for saying that.) That's the reason I called her "black Lisa" in that other post - because she's the smart one, the voice of reason, and the feminist one. I actually find her more likable than Lisa, because her being a preachy activist isn't the bulk of her character, and even when she does show that side, she's calm and mature about it, and the show even makes fun of her preachy liberal side at times. She's basically Lisa if Lisa were on a Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network show for kids. I'd dare even say she's my favourite character on the show, and this is coming from someone who started watching it for Audrey. (Granted, Audrey is a close second for me.)

Not to mention, she's come a looooong way from the girl who just liked painting dots.

 

[Ineedahero]

Harvey Street Kids

Why can't you shut up about this show I've never heard of? It seems you bring it up at least once every time you post.

 

[LiquidKid]

Oh boy, you again. Well, let's go over your points, then.



Hoo boy, you're gonna have a heart attack when you see the episode "Lisa the Simpson".



Oh really? No-one thinks Frozen is sexist? https://www.mamamia.com.au/is-frozen-sexist/



I actually remember hearing about that on a daytime talk show, and the guys justified it by saying it's a cartoon.

I've also heard this criticism levied at Inside Out, where the female emotions are designed to be cute, while the male emotions are more zany and exaggerated. However, this time, it was addressed as a sleight against men, saying that men are all ugly and women beautiful/pretty. Point is, everyone's a bunch of pansies who like to claim "sexism" at everything one way or the other (or both).



I personally didn't mind the dinner scene - if anything, I actually relate to Riley's dad going off into his own world and thinking about other stuff, since I fall into this trap in my daily life. (And I'm sure you're going to use that against me at some point.) I was just stating that other people called sexism on it, because he was thinking about sports specifically.



My point was to show how the archetypes we see on The Simpsons and similar shows aren't necessarily gendered, as we see similar characters in other shows who aren't the same gender. Though, in retrospect, I probably should've brought up Gravity Falls as an example, since Dipper and Mabel are basically a gender-swap of the usual "foolish boy, responsible girl" duo we see on shows like The Simpsons, Futurama, Crash Bandicoot, Kim Possible, The Amazing World of Gumball, etc.



Dude... I was a fan of the Little Audrey cartoons as early as 2015/16, long before Harvey Street Kids was even a thing. Hell, the reason I got into the show was because I was a fan of Little Audrey, and I was curious to see what a modern-day interpretation of her would look like. And needless to say, she didn't disappoint.

And to prove I'm not bullshitting, here's a video I released in 2017 where I mention the character (around 5:18 ):

ARC Commentaries - #2. Crazy Millenials That Are Decidedly Regressive [Cracked]

ARC Video #100! Feminism 101 syllabus: Watch 'The Buzz on Maggie' and 'Inside Out'. Run time: approx. 33 and a half minutes. Original video: https://www.yout...

www.youtube.com

Hell, I actually found out about Little Dot first, since she was briefly mentioned in the Simpsons episode "I Am Furious (Yellow)" (i.e. the Angry Dad episode). While Bart is trying to think of a name for a new comic book hero, he thinks of names such as Batman and Green Lantern, only to realise that - what a shock - those names are already taken. Marge steps in, thinking Bart is intentionally plagiarising, and suggests that he rips off Little Dot, because no-one will ever know. (Man, hindsight is such a bitch!)

So, naturally, I was curious to find out who this "Little Dot" was, and it turned out to be... some girl who likes painting dots. Yeah... not exactly a thrilling concept, but I did end up discovering Little Audrey through her, as well as rediscover the earlier Little Lulu character, who I previously only knew from her own reboot series that aired in the late 1990s. (Talk about history repeating itself on multiple levels!)

And as for Dot being black on the new show, the difference is that she's not a PC-pandering SJW Mary Sue libtard buffoon meant to steal the show and show just awesome black people can be. Instead, she's the token black character - it's a trope that's been done on other shows such as Punky Brewster, The Simpsons, South Park (where his name is literally Token Black), Family Guy, LazyTown, that show that must not be named, Kim Possible, Miraculous Ladybug, and even another Netflix cartoon with a plucky tomboy protagonist, Hilda. It's basically a way to show that, yeah, we care about black representation, but just so you know, we're still a white boys'/girls' club, and you're just here to be the black girl/guy.

Granted, Dot does show feminist tendencies on Harvey Street Kids, but even then she's what intersectionals would call a "white feminist", i.e. a feminist who doesn't bring race or other non-gender demographics into it. (Personally, I would prefer "non-intersectional feminist", but "white feminist" is just what they call it.) And freakin' kudos to the show for having a black female feminist character and not making it intersectional! (Shit, now I'm a hypocrite for saying that.) That's the reason I called her "black Lisa" in that other post - because she's the smart one, the voice of reason, and the feminist one. I actually find her more likable than Lisa, because her being a preachy activist isn't the bulk of her character, and even when she does show that side, she's calm and mature about it, and the show even makes fun of her preachy liberal side at times. She's basically Lisa if Lisa were on a Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network show for kids. I'd dare even say she's my favourite character on the show, and this is coming from someone who started watching it for Audrey. (Granted, Audrey is a close second for me.)

Not to mention, she's come a looooong way from the girl who just liked painting dots.

TL;DR
But thanks for sharing your YouTube channels, as if you needed to dox yourself even further.
You really need to chill out Sam

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Most male authors are too dumb to write women.

 

[Neko GF]

Hello again, Sam. Since you like talking about how female characters are written, lets take a look at how you've written female characters in the past: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12191058/1/Lisa-vs-Ms-Male-Characters-Part-1

Have to say, this was pretty funny to read. Seeing you write Lisa as a self inset for yourself is truly reminiscent on how of Enter writes his female OC as a self insert. Except it's even more pathetic when you do it, because Enter at least bothers make up is own characters instead of using an already established character as a self-insert. You are truly the a-log to Mr Enter's CWC.

 

[LiquidKid]

Hello again, Sam. Since you like talking about how female characters are written, lets take a look at how you've written female characters in the past: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12191058/1/Lisa-vs-Ms-Male-Characters-Part-1

Have to say, this was pretty funny to read. Seeing you write Lisa as a self inset for yourself is truly reminiscent on how on Enter writes is female OC as a self insert. Except it's even more pathetic when you do it, because Enter at least bothers make up is own characters instead of using an already established character as a self-insert. You are truly the a-log to Mr Enter's CWC.

It’s also incredibly sad that this fanfic was written in 2016 and doesn’t have a single review. I’ve been in enough dramatic reading discord calls to know that no review = the absolute lowest in quality

 

[NNewt84]

TL;DR
But thanks for sharing your YouTube channels, as if you needed to dox yourself even further.
You really need to chill out Sam

Okay then, I'll try to sum up my points quickly, then.

"Lisa the Simpson" isn't exactly a flattering portrayal of men.

Yes, people do think Frozen is sexist. https://www.mamamia.com.au/is-frozen-sexist/

That criticism you mentioned people levied at Frozen was also aimed at Inside Out, but stated as thought it benefits women over men. Because people are pansies who claim sexism.

I didn't mind the dinner scene, but others did, and that's what I was addressing.

My point with Harvey Street Kids was, gender stereotypes aren't necessarily set in stone. But in retrospect, I should've used Gravity Falls as an example instead.

I knew about Little Audrey before Harvey Street Kids was even a thing, and here's a video from 2017 to prove it (5:18 ):

ARC Commentaries - #2. Crazy Millenials That Are Decidedly Regressive [Cracked]

ARC Video #100! Feminism 101 syllabus: Watch 'The Buzz on Maggie' and 'Inside Out'. Run time: approx. 33 and a half minutes. Original video: https://www.yout...

www.youtube.com

And I actually discovered Little Dot first, via the Simpsons episode with Angry Dad, and through her I discovered Little Audrey.

Dot on Harvey Street Kids is the token black character - she's there to just be the one black character on an otherwise white show, not to show off how awesome black people can be like Kilometres Éticos.

Yeah, she can be a feminist at times, but she's more of a "white feminist", as the intersectionals say. And her being a liberal SJW isn't even the bulk of her character, so I find myself liking her more than her Simpsons counterpart.

Hello again, Sam. Since you like talking about how female characters are written, lets take a look at how you've written female characters in the past: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12191058/1/Lisa-vs-Ms-Male-Characters-Part-1

Have to say, this was pretty funny to read. Seeing you write Lisa as a self inset for yourself is truly reminiscent on how on Enter writes is female OC as a self insert. Except it's even more pathetic when you do it, because Enter at least bothers make up is own characters instead of using an already established character as a self-insert. You are truly the a-log to Mr Enter's CWC.

Well, if it helps, I do create my own characters - I just thought, for the purposes of this story, it would make more sense to use previously-established characters to drive the point home. I'm currently working on a series bible (thanks to suggestions from you guys criticising Enter) for my own series of self-published comics about a young girl with autism, who aspires to... well, you read the shitty fanfic, so you can probably see where this is going.

I've even made a cartoon short with the character (and yes, I'm aware it sucks, but we all have to start somewhere):

Wood Under the Bridge

Adele Wetter loves to play her violin, but her father... is a bit contemptuous about it. This short subject was made throughout April and May of 2014, to be ...

www.youtube.com

(And don't worry; I ditched that scary-ass tapir logo for the more simplistic Hungarian runes I use now.)

I also created a character for my animation course, if it helps. Frau Musicale, a teenage superhero with music-based powers (civilian name Liliana Messman).

 

[LiquidKid]

Okay then, I'll try to sum up my points quickly, then.

"Lisa the Simpson" isn't exactly a flattering portrayal of men.

Yes, people do think Frozen is sexist. https://www.mamamia.com.au/is-frozen-sexist/

That criticism you mentioned people levied at Frozen was also aimed at Inside Out, but stated as thought it benefits women over men. Because people are pansies who claim sexism.

I didn't mind the dinner scene, but others did, and that's what I was addressing.

My point with Harvey Street Kids was, gender stereotypes aren't necessarily set in stone. But in retrospect, I should've used Gravity Falls as an example instead.

I knew about Little Audrey before Harvey Street Kids was even a thing, and here's a video from 2017 to prove it (5:18 ):

ARC Commentaries - #2. Crazy Millenials That Are Decidedly Regressive [Cracked]

ARC Video #100! Feminism 101 syllabus: Watch 'The Buzz on Maggie' and 'Inside Out'. Run time: approx. 33 and a half minutes. Original video: https://www.yout...

www.youtube.com

And I actually discovered Little Dot first, via the Simpsons episode with Angry Dad, and through her I discovered Little Audrey.

Dot on Harvey Street Kids is the token black character - she's there to just be the one black character on an otherwise white show, not to show off how awesome black people can be like Kilometres Éticos.

Yeah, she can be a feminist at times, but she's more of a "white feminist", as the intersectionals say. And her being a liberal SJW isn't even the bulk of her character, so I find myself liking her more than her Simpsons counterpart.



Well, if it helps, I do create my own characters - I just thought, for the purposes of this story, it would make more sense to use previously-established characters to drive the point home. I'm currently working on a series bible (thanks to suggestions from you guys criticising Enter) for my own series of self-published comics about a young girl with autism, who aspires to... well, you read the shitty fanfic, so you can probably see where this is going.

I've even made a cartoon short with the character (and yes, I'm aware it sucks, but we all have to start somewhere):

Wood Under the Bridge

Adele Wetter loves to play her violin, but her father... is a bit contemptuous about it. This short subject was made throughout April and May of 2014, to be ...

www.youtube.com

(And don't worry; I ditched that scary-ass tapir logo for more simplistic Hungarian runes I use now.)

I also created a character for my animation course, if it helps. Frau Musicale, a teenage superhero with music-based powers (civilian name Liliana Messman).

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Please man, share everything about this. I want to see it all

 

[heyilikeyourmom]

If a female protagonist isn’t constantly worried about her biologicsl clock or if she accidentally left the stove on, I consider her to be unrealistic.

 

[NNewt84]

Another thing that bugs me is whenever a female character is introduced to a show, movie etc. because it's "too male-dominated". Like, bruh, there's plenty of stories where the females dominate the scene, so why do you have to be such an ungrateful little shit? This happened with the Jungle Book remake, this happened with Treasure Planet, this happened with Fairly OddParents, and it even happened to Rocko's Modern Life of all things. Like, why? If you want to see more female characters, just create your own darn show with female characters, and let the boys have their fun!

 

[HensKenKline]

There should be a reversed analysis being done by someone, about men written by women. I guess the only problem is that no sane man would waste his time reading Twilight or 50 Shades of Grey, even for fun.