Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Friedrich Hayek's Ghost]

But IF it were possible, I want a full 16 inch barrel, or a shorter one with a pinned brake, and it uses Tommy gun mags for max reliability and ammo since it holds 30 rounds.

So you want this thing?

 

[WelperHelper99]

So you want this thing?

Auto-Ordnance Tactical Thompson Rifle

I mean kinda. But not a tommy based platform. It needs to be lighter than a tommy, in a AR style platform, while keeping the brake (or a better brake since its lighter), stock, grip, and mags from this. Really I want to use the straight 30 round Tommy gun mags, the drums would just be bonus.

 

[Friedrich Hayek's Ghost]

Auto-Ordnance Tactical Thompson Rifle
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I mean kinda. But not a tommy based platform. It needs to be lighter than a tommy, in a AR style platform, while keeping the brake (or a better brake since its lighter), stock, grip, and mags from this. Really I want to use the straight 30 round Tommy gun mags, the drums would just be bonus.

I swear this thing went into production at some point, but I can't find it. I assume this is a good bit lighter than a standard 1927, since they lost all the wood. CMMG makes a .45 Banshee, but that's AR mags, not Thompson. You might be able to Bubba a mag conversion together.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I swear this thing went into production at some point, but I can't find it. I assume this is a good bit lighter than a standard 1927, since they lost all the wood. CMMG makes a .45 Banshee, but that's AR mags, not Thompson. You might be able to Bubba a mag conversion together.

YES. That's what I read in Guns and Ammo, the Banshee!


That is the closest to the ideal if not for the mags. Plenty of rail space, beefy muzzle brake, the PCC (not the pistol) has a stock, etc. Really I want the Thompson mags though because they're double stack double feed. I know glock and glock style double stack single feed mags have gotten reliable... but come on lol. I just want perfect is all. I guess though I'll have to settle for the Banshee in the distant future.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

How much do pre-ban tommyguns go for these days?

It has to be some "win the lottery" amount, yes?

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Are you telling me you finally got approved? If so, caloo calay!

Approved like Null's unbanning from X (denied again lmao).

My take for new gun owners is shoot something cheap or a buddy's gun and figure out what you hate and like about it, then go buy something that keeps the aspects you like while shoring up what you hated. The best gun is the one you'll practice with, and you're not going to do that with something you hate even if others swear by it.

One thing I'm going to highlight, is if you go bullpup you're gonna have to relearn the manual of arms from scratch. They are almost completely different from standard designs. It's just different.

Most 9mm PCC's are straight blowback, I'm fairly positive that blowback .45 ACP submachine guns have been a thing for at least 100 years.

Honestly chamber it in 7.62x25 like the PPSH/PPD-40, goes through NIST IIIA easily.

 

[BohrokSwarms]

@BohrokSwarms

https://www.brothersfirearmshop.us/products/rifles-anderson-b2-k869-a023-676351707945-6274

Well now I really want this, so does anybody object?

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

How much do pre-ban tommyguns go for these days?

It has to be some "win the lottery" amount, yes?

Pretty much any full auto that's registered and transferrable is going to be for the cheapest at least five figures and that would be for a full auto M-16 lower a thompson would probably be tens of thousands.

 

[miniature chungus]

Well now I really want this, so does anybody object?

Anderson makes based chinesium like psa, should be good.

 

[♦️ King of Diamonds ♦️]

I really would love to own an SVT-40 one day, I think it would make a really good hunting rifle with more flexibility/rate of fire than a traditional bolt action, but the problem is the cheapest ones I can find are $3000 fucking dollars. I also am iffy about trusting an 85+ year piece of equipment with my personal safety when a pissed-off Moose is charging me head-on... Is there any hope one day that a private company creates a more affordable modern reproduction of the SVT-40, in the same way GSG made a reproduction of the MP40 for example?

 

[DocAwe]

I really would love to own an SVT-40 one day, I think it would make a really good hunting rifle with more flexibility/rate of fire than a traditional bolt action, but the problem is the cheapest ones I can find are $3000 fucking dollars. I also am iffy about trusting an 85+ year piece of equipment with my personal safety when a pissed-off Moose is charging me head-on... Is there any hope one day that a private company creates a more affordable modern reproduction of the SVT-40, in the same way GSG made a reproduction of the MP40 for example?

I had one, not that great.
Pierced primers, shit gas system, really ammo sensitive.
Just get an M1.

 

[♦️ King of Diamonds ♦️]

I had one, not that great.
Pierced primers, shit gas system, really ammo sensitive.
Just get an M1.

If I wanted a battle rifle in .308 I'd just pony up for a FN-FAL and play "Rhodesians Never Die" on stereo as I was placing the order on Gunbroker. If you're referring to the Garand- I hate those things and never has there ever been a more overrated rifle in the history of warfare. Yes, it was the rifle American GIs used in WW2 but American homes during WW2 also tended to have lead paint and asbestos.

No detachable magazine, meaning reloading is far more slower and runs the giant risk of permanently mangling your thumb due to incompetent Canadian engineering, and best of all if you were actually carrying it in a combat situation like it was originally designed for it lets out an extremely loud "PING" noise indicating to the enemy you're completely out of ammo so they know it's safe to get out of cover and gun you down.

 

[Club Sandwich]

No detachable magazine, meaning reloading is far more slower and runs the giant risk of permanently mangling your thumb due to incompetent Canadian engineering, and best of all if you were actually carrying it in a combat situation like it was originally designed for it lets out an extremely loud "PING" noise indicating to the enemy you're completely out of ammo so they know it's safe to get out of cover and gun you down.

BM-59 and the M14 are arguably detachable magazines in an M1 Rifle platform, reloading an M1 Rifle is generally faster than the magazine reloads at the time of implementation (considering the en bloc clip auto-ejects on empty and there isn't any real spring pressure preventing slamming in a new clip). you cannot get "Garand Thumb" with a loaded weapon - it's something that happens to people fucking around with an empty one. the en bloc clip physically preventing your finger from being in the way unless you contort your pinky at the chamber mouth at an odd angle. John Garand was Canadian-American and moved to i think Connecticut with his family when he was 10 or 11 years old. the "ping" noise is completely overrated - not only has there never been any documented sources of it actually being heard over the battlefield din of an actual shootout or battle, but there's no interviews that support it. the nearest thing was some GIs in Europe using empty en block clips to throw onto rocks to distract sentries.

out of all the misinformation there, the "ping" thing really gets me. do you think that after firing 8 rounds of .30-06 that it's the "ping" that is easily audible over all the other noise and distinguishable from thrown brass cases or other random bits? or that in 1940's people were still using volley-fire and had to reload simultaneously, or that a Garand carrying soldier was operating and suppressing some Germans by his lonesome? it really stretches credulity.

 

[EggImpregnator]

I hate the NFA. I just want to put a CTR stock on my 10.5.

 

[miniature chungus]

I wanted a battle rifle in .308

Man basically everything you just said about the m1 garand is retarded but anyways theres basically zero hope for a svt reproduction because unlike soviet jew goblins nazis had swag, cool ass looking guns, and that mysterious hyperborean meme energy so people will buy shitty reproductions to get a taste

 

[EggImpregnator]

if you were actually carrying it in a combat situation like it was originally designed for it lets out an extremely loud "PING" noise indicating to the enemy you're completely out of ammo so they know it's safe to get out of cover and gun you down.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

If I wanted a battle rifle in .308 I'd just pony up for a FN-FAL and play "Rhodesians Never Die" on stereo as I was placing the order on Gunbroker.

The G3 is better from a parts/pricing point of view as of right now.

Man basically everything you just said about the m1 garand is retarded but anyways theres basically zero hope for a svt reproduction because unlike soviet jew goblins nazis had swag, cool ass looking guns, and that mysterious hyperborean meme energy so people will buy shitty reproductions to get a taste

M/42 or Hakim brother. Sturmgewehr 54 if you want something closer to Germany but not German. I really want a Sturmgewehr 57 based in 7.62x51, 7.62x39, or 5.56 (the other two had functional models).

I hate the NFA. Government should stop telling what I can or cannot do for self defense.

FTFY

 

[DocAwe]

If I wanted a battle rifle in .308 I'd just pony up for a FN-FAL and play "Rhodesians Never Die" on stereo as I was placing the order on Gunbroker. If you're referring to the Garand- I hate those things and never has there ever been a more overrated rifle in the history of warfare. Yes, it was the rifle American GIs used in WW2 but American homes during WW2 also tended to have lead paint and asbestos.

No detachable magazine, meaning reloading is far more slower and runs the giant risk of permanently mangling your thumb due to incompetent Canadian engineering, and best of all if you were actually carrying it in a combat situation like it was originally designed for it lets out an extremely loud "PING" noise indicating to the enemy you're completely out of ammo so they know it's safe to get out of cover and gun you down.

Look you do what you want.
I'm just relating my hands on experience with the svt and IMO it's a Soviet meme tier rifle.

And that "ping" bullshit is only applicable on a one way range.
And if you really want a semi automatic battle rifle "pony up" to an AR-10 type or a Galil ACE.

 

[Burekbossman]

The G3 is better from a parts/pricing point of view as of right now.

PTR has welded pic rails so you don't have to mess with the stupid claw mount and have push buttom mag release.

 

[crab fucker]

I think the SVT-40 is cool, but it wasn't very prolific for a reason. I mean if you just wanted a soviet hunting gun, just use a mosin, can't really go wrong with them if you wanted something older that can down a deer. Also am I retarded for actually enjoying flushing the cosmoline out of old soviet shit?