Mega Rad Gun Thread

[LargeChoonger]

I finished

All built from a stripped lower. I know painting the flash hider is weird but it actually looks really neat when residue builds up on the edges after firing. Gives it a sort of weathered look

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

I know painting the flash hider is weird but ... gives it a sort of weathered look

Or like you dipped the tip in tactical peanutbutter.

But I see you're a man of culture in sticking with the forward-assist. GG.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

 

[Wahgonga]

My latest project.

Just a straightforward 5.56 AR without too many bells and whistles. Started with an in-the-white upper/lower set from a local manufacturer. Barrel is a 1/9 chrome lined M4 from Del-Ton, and the guts come from various sources. After fitting, tuning, and test firing, I stripped it all down and bead blasted everything. All aluminum parts have a pre-treatment of Alodine 1200, all steel parts are pre-treated with Milspec Parkerizing. The pre-treatment acts as an adhesion promoter for the sprayed on black Gun-Kote.

I use an automotive touch-up gun for the big parts, and an airbrush for the small stuff. Once baked on the stuff is pretty much rust proof and impervious to solvents. The furniture, mags, and rear sight are Magpul. Decided OD green would look good with the overall black. Been hearing good things about the newer Truglo red-dot optics, so I picked one up. And for the hell of it, I finished it off with an OD green canvas M1 Carbine sling.

 

[ConspicuousArdiunoDue]

Bought a bunch of Belom 124 grain 9mm and have had good luck with it. Iirc their 7.62x39 performed well in Paul Harrels accuracy test so they were already my go-to for brass AK food.

The plastic packages they come in stack on top of eachother like Legos, which is nice if you're on the spectrum.
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For my purposes it's close enough to 124 grain hst for practice/training use. Only issue is that they put something shiny on the rounds and it flakes off when you shoot. To my knowledge it doesn't cause any functional issues, just gold specks in the gun where normal debris collects.

If it was cheap and more readily avaliable, I would shoot Federal syntech.

I got some of that Belom 7.62x39 for my Yugo AK, it performs pretty well. The most annoying thing about it is the packaging, so I've just taken to smashing the top plastic off on the range table and taking round out that way.

I will say though, I've noticed that the brass might be a little softer than others I've shot, there are dings on the side of the cartridge from the round ejecting, and I don't get those same dings on other brass cased 7.62x39 out of the same rifle.

 

[HarblMcDavid]

Wahgonga's build has reminded me of something given the Aimpoint M4S style of optic: keep in mind that low position AA battery sized compartments basically preclude you from using a lot of brass catcher designs, and not just on ARs.

Not something everyone thinks about, so just FYI.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Voere VEC-91 Rifle & Caseless Ammunition:

"The rifle was costly when it was first imported in 1993, coming in at $2,200.00 for the gun and nearly $2.00 per round of ammunition."

Spoiler: Rifle & internals

.... this unassuming little bolt action rifle caused the ATF and proponents of gun control in the United States to freak out and cause a whirl of controversy ... when Voere, the small Austrian firearm manufacturer decided to create and export the VEC-91 rifle. The fear was over the rifle’s unique caseless ammunition that would make criminal investigations dependent on spent shell casings impossible. A study by the Violence Policy Center even recomended the following:

• 1) Congress immediately direct the federal Office of Technology Assessment to study caseless ammunition and its possible effect on criminal investigations;
• 2) the appropriate congressional committees conduct hearings to examine the problems that caseless ammo may present;
• 3) the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) request of Voere that it indefinitely postpone export of its rifle and ammunition to the United States until the possible public safety risks posed by the new technology are determined;
• 4) Congress give ATF statutory authority to regulate the availability, manufacture, distribution, and sale of fireams technology that poses a possible threat to public safety.

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I've noticed this sort of urban cowboy on TikTok and YT lately, showing off their totally legit giggleswitched Glocks (who also don't seem the type to pay for an ATF permission slip); but this is the first I've seen cook off a burst from inside his house.... or at least one who isn't a white Floridaman.

 

[TheGreatDodongus]

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I've noticed this sort of urban cowboy on TikTok and YT lately, showing off their totally legit giggleswitched Glocks (who also don't seem the type to pay for an ATF permission slip); but this is the first I've seen cook off a burst from inside his house.... or at least one who isn't a white Floridaman.

There's multiple videos circulating of people firing glocks through their windows. No joke, it started as a TikTok/Instagram trend because they're convinced it'll lower property values in their neighborhoods and therefore keep their rent low.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

There's multiple videos circulating of people firing glocks through their windows.

It's not really where they're shooting that I noticed, it's what they're shooting; namely full-auto Glocks, along with ghetto AR pistols & Dracos rocking banned devices. Seems like they started being filmed mostly next to swamps, golf courses, or construction sites.

But besides laziness, I figure the ATF started noticing a bunch of urban demographics making that kind of noise outside of their hood & posting it online; so it's less likely for them to get caught if they don't travel very far afield to make their TikToks with their FA Glocks and Dracos.

No joke, it started as a TikTok/Instagram trend because they're convinced it'll lower property values in their neighborhoods and therefore keep their rent low.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Are flechette rifles even a viable thing in modern combat like the ones in the ACR competition? I wonder how much materials science has advanced since then. I'm waiting to see the Styer entry crossed with a Pancor Jackhammer.

But besides laziness, I figure the ATF started noticing a bunch of urban demographics making that kind of noise outside of their hood & posting it online; so it's less likely for them to get caught if they don't travel very far afield to make their TikToks with their FA Glocks and Dracos.

That's racist.
I guarantee you the ATF will kill your dog and your family if you buy the fire-control group and the sear for an M-16 online.... Despite not owning one or other parts to one, "Constructive intent" they say.

 

[DocAwe]

Disband the AFT.

 

[Seafarer]

Disband the AFT.

Agreed, teachers unions were a mistake

 

[DocAwe]

Agreed, teachers unions were a mistake
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COME ON MAN!!!

Gaffe MACHINE!

 

[WelperHelper99]

This is just a thought -

Does anyone know of refillable 12g CO2 cartridges? I don't have a FAC or SGC at the moment (no need but had one) so I am limited to Airguns at the moment and the cost of them has shot up in the last 12 months.



If your after a .45 acp carbine there was someone selling Delise style Carbines made in the UK from some old training MK5 Enfileds a lot where exported to the USA with a pseudo shroud and plane barrel, this was about 10 years ago but they where relatively cheep like £200 for the suppressed version in the UK (yes we get a suppressor in the UK with our licence). They took standard 1911 mags and worked really well from what I was told.

I decided on a pistol, the Smith and Wesson SD40VE however my Car's power steering decided to shit itself. I'm going to be rebuilding my savings for a while, much sad. That does sound very cool though, you Brits always come up with the weirdest guns.

Bought a bunch of Belom 124 grain 9mm and have had good luck with it. Iirc their 7.62x39 performed well in Paul Harrels accuracy test so they were already my go-to for brass AK food.

The plastic packages they come in stack on top of eachother like Legos, which is nice if you're on the spectrum.
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For my purposes it's close enough to 124 grain hst for practice/training use. Only issue is that they put something shiny on the rounds and it flakes off when you shoot. To my knowledge it doesn't cause any functional issues, just gold specks in the gun where normal debris collects.

If it was cheap and more readily avaliable, I would shoot Federal syntech.

I have bought the Belom 7.62x39 for ranges that don't like steel case, SKS food, haven't tried it yet but I've heard it's immensely accurate, I wouldn't imagine the 9mm is any different

 

[AGPinochet]

Are flechette rifles even a viable thing in modern combat like the ones in the ACR competition?

Dunno, but I think it possible that people might get wishy washy on them for military purposes in a modern context because based on the gel test I saw of one being fired the actual flechette is like M193 from a 20'' barrel at close range x5. Meaning that thing turns organs into juice.

However a modernized flechette cartridge with a Sig hybrid case would be fun.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Deactivated Nambu w/ Tokarev frame, from the UK: allegedly a post-war Chinese modification/experiment.

Dunno, but I think it possible that people might get wishy washy on them for military purposes in a modern context because based on the gel test I saw of one being fired the actual flechette is like M193 from a 20'' barrel at close range x5. Meaning that thing turns organs into juice.

However a modernized flechette cartridge with a Sig hybrid case would be fun.

The problem with flechettes is on curve; devastating against unarmored targets at close-range; but they still lack of mass, then start to suffer from severe accuracy issues as velocity increases to try boosting penetration. But by increasing the weight to address stability & range, fewer flechettes can be contained in a round. Eventually you're left with something like a single or duplex discarding sabot projectile, which is kinda counter to the idea/purpose of a beehive round.

Years ago I saw an article somewhere about a "needle-rifle" prototype, IIRC during the era of research into salvo-rifles, and which fired projectiles akin to thick sewing needles at ludicrous speeds. However, in a duplex or triplex configuration they interfered with each other & separated widely in flight, while single projectiles still had the tendency to yaw from supersonic shockwave formation, or be deflected by crosswinds & foliage, regardless of how fast they're moving.

I was a big fan of the needlegun in Fallout, and always wondered if it would be effective. So I was fairly disappointed to find that while mechanically feasible, such a thing would never be very precise or effective at beyond bad-breath ranges.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Dunno, but I think it possible that people might get wishy washy on them for military purposes in a modern context because based on the gel test I saw of one being fired the actual flechette is like M193 from a 20'' barrel at close range x5. Meaning that thing turns organs into juice.

However a modernized flechette cartridge with a Sig hybrid case would be fun.

The problem with flechettes is on curve; devastating against unarmored targets at close-range; but they still lack penetration due to a lack of mass, then start to suffer from severe accuracy issues as velocity increases to try boosting penetration

I'm thinking a a telescopic, caseless ammo with both regular and flechette rounds in a mag.

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

I'm thinking a a telescopic, caseless ammo with both regular and flechette rounds in a mag.

Everything old is new again at some point.

 

[Nate Higgers]

I joined two cults over the past couple months. The cult of Czechnology and the cult of Ruger PC Carbine enjoyers.

I was buying my FMJ about 500 rounds at a time but I burnt through about 400rds just in one range trip the day I bought the carbine. For the Ruger, I brought two 10rd mags, two 15rd mags, and one 25rd mag (all glockazines) but I mostly stuck to the 10-15rd mags. That being said, I’ve stepped up to buying FMJ 1-2k rounds at a time.

The CZ is a P-01 with a pair of cheapy thin grips I bought off Amazon. I liked the stock rubber palmswells but I get a better grip with the slim ones. Just installed an upgraded “buffer plate”, upgraded ejector, and stronger steel retaining pins for the bolt face + ejector for the carbine. Can’t wait to get back to the range and see how it shoots now.

Haven’t done anything to the CZ other than the grips; I know a lot of people get theirs “cajunized” but it’s been mostly perfect in its stock form. The double action pull is pretty heavy but I know that’s what it’s for. The single action pull is really nice compared to my Glock 19 and my [insert forbidden brand] 9mm subcompact CCW but I’m still curious about whether I can use a dremel and some Mothers mag and aluminum polish to do a little trigger work and smooth out the trigger parts that rub together.

tl;dr: ive become a consoomer for gun stuff and I don’t regret it one bit

 

[HumptiDouji]

NGSW and the 6.8x51mm were pet projects of Mike Milley as he and a few other generals bought some utter bullshit sold by an ex USMC officer who worked for H&K about 5.56mm not killing people and being unable to defeat body armor.....

I recall that story from somewhere, but I'm certain there's been more to it. I think it was that NGSW either grew out of LSAT or LSAT melded into NGSW or something, but I don't recall that part with certainty.

Once Milley is out the NGSW will slowly die. Well get a thousands or maybe tens of thousands of M5s and the new machine gun, certain units will use them but 99% of the US military will be using M4A1s, SAWs, and M240s for a few more decades.

It'll be interesting to see how the belt-fed hunk of shit will ultimately perform. Still very befuddled by the lack of a quick change barrel.

Are flechette rifles even a viable thing in modern combat like the ones in the ACR competition?

IMO no. The hyper lightweight projectiles are very unpredictable and finicky, people who think 5.56mm doesn't do well enough through vegetation or light cover would find flechette rifles complete misery (not to talk about weather and wind).
They were apparently all comically loud guns, louder than the NGSWs, and one of the SPIWs was apparently prone to spitting glass fiber fragments towards the shooter, or the shooters next to the shooter, which involved at least one eye injury.
That part is more about weapon and ammunition design, but it's just one of those funny things about how ridiculous all those flechette rifles were.

Deactivated Nambu w/ Tokarev frame, from the UK: allegedly a post-war Chinese modification/experiment.
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Gut feeling here is that some terrible bored PLA armorer doing inventory found they had a spare Nambu upper half and a spare Tokarev lower half, maybe they were damaged and not normally usable, and just for the hell of it he goes about seeing if he can put the two together into a pistol with enough work.

The problem with flechettes is on curve; devastating against unarmored targets at close-range; but they still lack of mass, then start to suffer from severe accuracy issues as velocity increases to try boosting penetration. But by increasing the weight to address stability & range, fewer flechettes can be contained in a round. Eventually you're left with something like a single or duplex discarding sabot projectile, which is kinda counter to the idea/purpose of a beehive round.

Years ago I saw an article somewhere about a "needle-rifle" prototype, IIRC during the era of research into salvo-rifles, and which fired projectiles akin to thick sewing needles at ludicrous speeds. However, in a duplex or triplex configuration they interfered with each other & separated widely in flight, while single projectiles still had the tendency to yaw from supersonic shockwave formation, or be deflected by crosswinds & foliage, regardless of how fast they're moving.

You put it way better than I did. Feels a bit like the Gyrojet, a wild pipedream.