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The Human-Turian war? Damn.
It plays out a little differently, in B5 the Humans were very much getting their asses kicked and then miraculously won for unclear reasons that are revealed later as part of the show's plot, whereas in ME the Humans were winning initially because they actually understand combined arms warfare and the Turians are space-Chinamen who just throw bodies at a problem until it collapses, but Humanity would have lost eventually (because the Turians have a LOT of bodies to throw) if the Council (read: Asari) hadn't intervened. But you can clearly see where the inspiration came from.
 
It plays out a little differently, in B5 the Humans were very much getting their asses kicked and then miraculously won for unclear reasons that are revealed later as part of the show's plot, whereas in ME the Humans were winning initially because they actually understand combined arms warfare and the Turians are space-Chinamen who just throw bodies at a problem until it collapses, but Humanity would have lost eventually (because the Turians have a LOT of bodies to throw) if the Council (read: Asari) hadn't intervened. But you can clearly see where the inspiration came from.
Even a few hundred years from now our finest military tactics consist of throwing a ton of ordnance at the enemy's direction with drones and fire support and then just blazing through any gaps that open up at super-speed.
https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/..._Alliance#Systems_Alliance:_Military_Doctrine
The Alliance military is of great concern to the galaxy. At first contact with the turians, they were completely inexperienced. Turian disdain changed to respect after the relief of Shanxi, where the humans surprised them with novel technologies and tactics.

The human devotion to understanding and adapting to modern space warfare stunned the staid Council races. For hundreds of years, they had lived behind secure walls of long-proven technologies and tactics. The Council regards the Alliance as a 'sleeping giant'. Less than 3% of humans volunteer to serve in their military, a lower proportion than any other species.

While competent, Alliance soldiers are neither as professional as the turians nor as skilled as the asari. Their strengths lie in fire support, flexibility, and speed. They make up for lack of numbers with sophisticated technical support (VIs, drones, artillery, electronic warfare) and emphasis on mobility and individual initiative.

Their doctrine is not based on absorbing and dishing out heavy shocks like the turians and krogan. Rather, they bypass enemy strong points and launch deep into their rear, cutting supply lines and destroying headquarters and support units, leaving enemies to 'wither on the vine'.

On defense, the human military is a rapid reaction force that lives by Sun Tzu’s maxim, 'He who tries to defend everything defends nothing'. Garrisons are intended for scouting rather than combat, avoiding engagement to observe and report on invaders using drones.

The token garrisons of human colonies make it easy for alien powers to secure them, for which the Alliance media criticizes the military. However, the powerful fleets stationed at phase gate nexuses such as Arcturus are just a few hours or days from any colony within their sphere of responsibility. In the event of an attack, they respond with overwhelming force.
The Mako having the firepower and armor of a main battle tank and the ability to pull off crazy moves that would shame the General Lee is a feature, not a bug.
 
Even a few hundred years from now our finest military tactics consist of throwing a ton of ordnance at the enemy's direction with drones and fire support and then just blazing through any gaps that open up at super-speed.
If it's good enough for General Patton, then it's good enough for you.
 
If it's good enough for General Patton, then it's good enough for you.
Funnily enough there's at least one off-world settlement that owes allegiance to the United North American States (after the USA basically absorbed Canada and Mexico) as opposed to the Systems Alliance as a whole. Earth nations didn't magically go away after the First Contact War and still wield a great deal of influence and power over the Alliance proper thanks to its dependence on the place for materiel and manpower.

Hell, the Alliance was founded as a result of the big boys like the UNAS, Europe, and China, deciding to get together and go into space after the Prothean ruins were found on Mars, and they just up and told the rest of the place, "Eat shit, poorfags."
 
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Funnily enough there's at least one off-world settlement that owes allegiance to the United North American States (after the USA basically absorbed Canada and Mexico) as opposed to the Systems Alliance as a whole. Earth nations didn't magically go away after the First Contact War and still wield a great deal of influence and power over the Alliance proper thanks to its dependence on the place for materiel and manpower.

Hell, the Alliance was founded as a result of the big boys like the UNAS, Europe, and China, deciding to get together and go into space after the Prothean ruins were found on Mars, and they just up and told the rest of the place, "Eat shit, poorfags."
One of the really annoying things about Mass Effect is the universe has a lot of potential and there's a lot of really fun lore in the background, but then the main story does absolutely nothing with it, other than maybe retcon it away if it's inconvenient to the bland ass story they are trying to tell. It's why a TV show that tells a smaller story unconnected to Shepard could actually be great if done well, but obviously that won't happen in modern Hollywood.
 
pros or contra to bioware retcon prothean to humanoid insect?
i think i'm fine with it even if it's a bit dissapointing to see it being space bug.thoughie, it's atleast better than to make them generic humanoid
 
pros or contra to bioware retcon prothean to humanoid insect?
i think i'm fine with it even if it's a bit dissapointing to see it being space bug.thoughie, it's atleast better than to make them generic humanoid
We didn't know the shape of protheans in ME1.
In Mass Effect 2 the collectors are mutated protheans, which being a base, isn't enough.
Javik is strangely a good character in a good-to-mediocre game.
 
Yeah, but i mean that AI which took a human-shaped form and isn't even close to the statues.
The statues mean anything, like in any society.
Virgil was a bugged mess, it didn't take a human form. Also the humanoid statues make sense as the protheans given that the reaper tech is most adapted to bipedal species.

pros or contra to bioware retcon prothean to humanoid insect?
I quite like how Ilos looked and the statues had an interesting design. I was disappointed with the way they portrayed the protheans especially with Javik. He's not a full reflection of the species at their zenith, but now they come off as annoying and violent. ME3 protheans are interesting but they don't have at all the same appeal as Virgil gave off on Ilos.
 
The statues are supposed to represent the Inussanon, the civilization that came before the Protheans. IIRC this was explained by Javik at some point in ME3.
That's one of the retcons, but i can say ME1 wanted to be vague as possible to flesh out later.
And i'm sure Bioware never planned 2 & 3 after 1, remembering the "thanks!" prompt after finishing ME1.
 
There were plenty of statues on Ilos.
The statues are supposed to represent the Inussanon, the civilization that came before the Protheans. IIRC this was explained by Javik at some point in ME3.
That's one of the retcons, but i can say ME1 wanted to be vague as possible to flesh out later.
And i'm sure Bioware never planned 2 & 3 after 1, remembering the "thanks!" prompt after finishing ME1.
If they intentionally left it to be explained later on i wouldn't call it a retcon.
Also, ME was announced as a trilogy from day 1 so youre just pulling doo-doo feces out of your asshole to support your point.

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The statues are supposed to represent the Inussanon, the civilization that came before the Protheans. IIRC this was explained by Javik at some point in ME3.
Yeah, they retconned it.

That's one of the retcons, but i can say ME1 wanted to be vague as possible to flesh out later.
And i'm sure Bioware never planned 2 & 3 after 1, remembering the "thanks!" prompt after finishing ME1.
I agree. ME2 felt very different. I doubt that they had that in mind when they made the first game.
 
The Asari are fucking stupid and they are by far the worst race in the entire game.
>Brooooo what if there was a race of super hot alien babes who could have EPIC MIND SEX with you. Also they can have kids with any species from their epic mind sex too. Plus they REALLY want to have kids with non-asari (you especially).
 
The Asari are fucking stupid and they are by far the worst race in the entire game.
>Brooooo what if there was a race of super hot alien babes who could have EPIC MIND SEX with you. Also they can have kids with any species from their epic mind sex too. Plus they REALLY want to have kids with non-asari (you especially).
The closest the Asari ever got to being interesting is a random NPC conversation Bioware snuck into ME2, where a diverse group of aliens are all listing conflicting features that make the Asari attractive to them and they're so confused other species even find them hot. You get the vibe the Asari have been maybe using biotics to psyop everyone into finding them attractive/being predisposed to want to help them, and nobody knows what their true form is.
Of course, ME3 ruins that by taking us to Therum and you can see their artwork and it's all space babes with tentacle hair. Left hand didn't know the actually interesting lore the right hand was cooking up.
 
The Asari are fucking stupid and they are by far the worst race in the entire game.
>Brooooo what if there was a race of super hot alien babes who could have EPIC MIND SEX with you. Also they can have kids with any species from their epic mind sex too. Plus they REALLY want to have kids with non-asari (you especially).
One of the good things about ME3 is that they get a fucking they'd never recover from by the Reapers
 
Left hand didn't know the actually interesting lore the right hand was cooking up.
Lol, that asari convo is the breakfast question of Mass Effect. Yes, the throwaway shitpost of 3 drunk dudes looking at a stripper is the most epic lore that changes everything. Nevermind that literally nobody said anything of the sort at any point ever prior to it. Including the codex, a thinly veiled excuse to dump lore on the player.

This whole retarded horseshit falls apart in a nanosecond when you realize that it means that nobody has seen pictures and videos of asari when they aren't under the influence of blue space stripper psychic powers.

People treating that convo as a heckin lore plottwist that changes everything is just peak midwit shit. It's a gag about drunk dudes oogling a stripper.
 
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