Disaster "Mass casualty incident" declared after Key Bridge in Baltimore collapses

No article yet as this just happened, but could be big. One of the largest bridges in the world according to Wikipedia.

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/breaking-news-key-bridge-collapsed

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[MadStan]

When you look at all things considered, the ship hitting the bridge was a combination of multiple factors all happening at exactly the wrong time. 2 mins later it would have cleared the bridge, hell, even if the power had cut out 2 boat lengths from the opening it still would have floated through without impact. The route was 500-600 feet give or take from the support structures.

We can build (and should) all safety precautions we can, but with a 100,000 ton ship failing at exactly the right moment, there is only so much one can realistically do.

My biggest concern out of all this is seeing terrorists decide that highjacking a ship just off the coast and slamming it into the Golden Gate Bridge or other bridge is an easier route than trying a plane on for size.

If 100K ship can do this at 8 knots, imagine what it would do at 22 knots. Terrifying.

 

[Otterly]

It was, I think, too big and have too much momentum to have any but one or all of these in play (although someone else may know better.

1. The rudder was already turning to get into the main channel when the power died.

2. That being the case, the following picture (in an exaggeration) shows how the anchor could have an opposite effect:
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3. When they got power again and put it in reverse, IIRC the direction of the blades of the propeller would cause a significant "pull" to the port. [Edit: .....at the stern]

I don't know if any single one of them could have caused it, but I think all three could.

I’m probably looking at it wrong but in the video the ship seems to turn the other way and go into the pier. That’s what’s confusing me. I’m probably just spatially retarded
I still think there’s something dodgy about all this.

Bridge officers being honored at the Orioles baseball game. Apparently they were so quick on the draw closing the bridge the only people on it was the pothole repair crew.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=HYha1KvaUZI

Glad to see this.

 

[Pierre D'Olnique]

I'm now positive that the other 4 construction workers simply went home.

 

[Heed Not]

Germany is making them illegal again IIRC after safety testing demonstrated they are worse than the (already illegal) using your phone while driving in terms of distraction

I've seen a few yachting accidents including collisions from reliance or forced implementation of touchscreens in place of manual controls. And quite a few collisions on military ships. You basically cannot get a new car in America that doesn't have a giant computer screen front and center. They should obviously be illegal because of how unreliable and outright useless they are.

 

[TheHarbinger]

When all is said and done who ultimately gets the blame. I assume the pajeet captain will be the designated fall guy, one of the shell companies operating this ship gets a random fine for operating the vessel without following regulations, and nothing ever happens to the actual people at fault for this.

Who gets the blame in public and who gets the blame from the government or insurance companies might be two or three different groups entirely. The people at most fault are the captain, officers, and engineering staff on the Dali ship who knew that it was suffering total electrical failures routinely and allowed an unaware bay pilot to operate the controls without warning him that the ship was unstable. They basically put this man on a collision course without any knowledge that the ship should have remained in port for repairs.

The second most culpable group are the owners of the ship who clearly skimped on safety and maintenance (highly common in the shipping industry) out of greed, incompetence, and sloth. The last group are the port operators who elected to use bay pilots instead of tugs and thought it would be safe to run a cargo ship at 8-10knots regularly through a narrow bridge passage. Those speeds are too dangerous because if the ship needs to correct course under its own power it will not be possible in such tight areas. With tugs you simply won't get the speeds necessary to smash a bridge down.

International shipping is absolute monster to prosecute legally so I really can't blame them. All these container ships have all sorts of dubious legal ownership to unravel.

So do most large yachts as well. There are entire law practices that specialize in creating shell companies for maritime ownership. When the U.S. government and other NATO governments began seizing various large yachts their owners were often dubious and ambiguous.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Weeks Marine has brought in crane 553 along with second crane barge that was moored in Curtis Bay. DonJon Marine brought in a large(60+ton) excavator with a shear in this morning. That will probably be used to process the bridge chunks at Sparrow's Point.


I expect they will start lifting much larger pieces soon.

 

[Corpun]

I've seen a few yachting accidents including collisions from reliance or forced implementation of touchscreens in place of manual controls. And quite a few collisions on military ships. You basically cannot get a new car in America that doesn't have a giant computer screen front and center. They should obviously be illegal because of how unreliable and outright useless they are.

The forced computerization of everything from basic machinery to complex vehicles is a terrible sign for the impending competency crisis. Almost every single plane today relies on computers to control every single thing for example. Any of this shit fucks up and we will be having Dali disastsers on roads, factories, and the sky.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The forced computerization of everything from basic machinery to complex vehicles is a terrible sign for the impending competency crisis. Almost every single plane today relies on computers to control every single thing for example. Any of this shit fucks up and we will be having Dali disastsers on roads, factories, and the sky.

Idiocracy was supposed to be a satire. Not a prophecy.

 

[MadStan]

The forced computerization of everything from basic machinery to complex vehicles is a terrible sign for the impending competency crisis. Almost every single plane today relies on computers to control every single thing for example. Any of this shit fucks up and we will be having Dali disastsers on roads, factories, and the sky.

forced computerization is a technical degeneracy? Is that what you are alluding to?

 

[Leakage Current]

The forced computerization of everything from basic machinery to complex vehicles is a terrible sign for the impending competency crisis. Almost every single plane today relies on computers to control every single thing for example. Any of this shit fucks up and we will be having Dali disastsers on roads, factories, and the sky.

The computerization isn't the problem. Everything runs on computers. Factories that will kill hundreds if they fail have run on computers (PLCs) for longer than a lot of people here have been alive.

The problem is insufficient safety engineering.

 

[Betonhaus]

The computerization isn't the problem. Everything runs on computers. Factories that will kill hundreds if they fail have run on computers (PLCs) for longer than a lot of people here have been alive.

The problem is insufficient safety engineering.

And replacing PLCs with general purpose systems running multiple levels of abstraction so the developers can code in AppleScript

 

[The Dude]

But do you think people deserve to die because of their geographic location?

That depends on a few factors. If they are in North America or Europe and are non-White or non-East Asian? Yes. If they're anywhere else in the world then I really don't care because it doesn't affect me.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

The Boeing MAX is a perfect example where the computers got too smart for the nigger pilots. Once things are sufficiently computerized it better be niggerproof because nobody will actually know what the fuck they’re doing, they just press buttons.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

Baltimore Sucks

 

[Reverend]

I'm seriously impressed by the Farms' collective faith in the existence of a black person who would willingly go near a body of water, much less the ocean, and who is able and willing to hold down a job.

It's free goddamn money, why else would you think it's going to the Gibs?

 

[Billy Hargrove]

pajeets should be banned from most jobs. maybe they can be allowed to dig ditches or something.

 

[moocow]

It's free goddamn money, why else would you think it's going to the Gibs?

Most niggers are more terrified of water than they are of incoming gunfire. Probably because the shooter is usually a fellow "brother" who can't aim for shit and also because they can't save themselves from drowning by shooting the water.

The Boeing MAX is a perfect example where the computers got too smart for the nigger pilots. Once things are sufficiently computerized it better be niggerproof because nobody will actually know what the fuck they’re doing, they just press buttons.

Nah, that's one instance where it really wasn't pilot error that downed those planes. MCAS really was a disaster. It was installed without pilot knowledge (Boeing explicitly requested permission from the FAA to omit a description of it from the operations manual). The pilots did know what they were doing (based on their training) and were taking correct actions based on their own intuition as well as their training. The fucking planes just decided they knew better and forced themselves into nose dives. Note that in both crashes MCAS continued to override pilot inputs by ordering "nose down" commands even after the autopilot was disconnected.

The only way to disable MCAS was to disable a group of controls, including direct control of part of the stabilizer, which made the planes harder to control for obvious reasons. MCAS should never have been allowed on the MAX in that form and Boeing should never have been allowed to remove two of the three (no longer redundant) sensors it depended on for attitude control. Fuck Boeing.

 

[BulletSpongeRTR]

Most niggers are more terrified of water than they are of incoming gunfire. Probably because the shooter is usually a fellow "brother" who can't aim for shit and also because they can't save themselves from drowning by shooting the water.

In Navy bootcamp we had one nigger recruit who could not swim to save his life. He was taking swim classes but had failed the test twice and had one more chance to take the test and pass. This nigger was so retarded he asked me to go take his third and final swim test for him. He literally thought the instructors were so stupid they would not realize the guy answering to Leroy Jefferson had suddenly turned lily white over night.

 

[AssadsTopGuy]

Left wing theory on why this happened: "The boat that was carrying all of this cargo sadly crashed recently because the owner of the boat cargo company's great ucle's sister's half Pakistani brother was involved with the CIA and they did the crash because they wanted to destroy the boat to expand trade influence along with start racial tensions to distract people from the real problem which is class difference and then launch the west into a full on race war were capitalism forces us to fight each other until we all die-" you get the picture

Right wing theory on why this happened: "It's because they're Indian lmao"

 

[FrancineCansMcGee]

In Navy bootcamp we had one nigger recruit who could not swim to save his life. He was taking swim classes but had failed the test twice and had one more chance to take the test and pass. This nigger was so retarded he asked me to go take his third and final swim test for him. He literally thought the instructors were so stupid they would not realize the guy answering to Leroy Jefferson had suddenly turned lily white over night.

Did you at least google to investigate the logistics of full body, waterproof blackface?