Marvel Cinematic Universe

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

Are you fucking serious? Hollywood has been trying to pander to china for most of the last decade at least. I even gave examples. And those weren't even the only ones, just the most blatant.

I wasn't pulling it out of my ass that they put a (Vietnamese) chink into Star wars to appeal to china, and the chinese people thought she was ugly and didn't watch.

I don't really know who or what awkwafina is, but I've heard that the mainland chinks think she? is ugly too. I googled it, and yeah... that's a fucking ugly person. They're playing a main character in the MCU's newest chink bait movie?
I predict that they don't like it either.

Then say China, and not "chinky movie chink chink chink" and then get pissed off that I wasn't able to deduce specifically what you meant immediately.

 

[UnKillFill]

Then say China, and not "chinky movie chink chink chink" and then get pissed off that I wasn't able to deduce specifically what you meant immediately.

No.

What I find hilarious is how they then always half-ass their pandering and being "authentic."

When it comes to authentic representation in front of and behind the lens. They just want something that superficially looks correct to a racially ignorant person and are ignorant as to if it really is.

Similarly to how all female lead films need a female director now. This needed an Asian director. Do they get a Chinese one? Nope. Just some dude from Hawaii who has a Japanese parent. He looks Asian, authentic!

On a writers podcast a while back an Asian American female writer was talking about how annoying this is. She keeps only getting offered writing gigs that have Asian characters. Gets told it'll be great to have an authentic voice. No care if they're characters or people that relate to where her family was from. I can't remember the specifics. But it was something like she was being offered to write something about Koreans in Korea. Told they want to be authentic and representative in hiring her. They didn't understand when she'd say, "but my family is from the Philippines, my parents and I were born and raised in America." It was all so hollow and virtue signalling with no attempt to do what they were saying.

 

[Oats12345]

Martial arts movies typically do perform quite well, yeah. Particularly with blacks, despite what I think people might believe. All this movie is going to be is the run of the mill Jackie Chan/Jet Li type of shit with a capeshit exterior. There's a case to be made for "forced diversity" and the cast of this movie being increasingly up their own asses with the supposed importance! of the casting, but for the most part "Asians in a martial arts/martial arts flavored movie" isn't going to be anywhere close to the turn off for most people as I think a lot are betting it's going to be.

Have the cast really been pushing this movie as important? Yeah let's ignore greats like Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan and Jet Li. And think about the cast of a superhero movie that most audience don't know about until recently.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

Have the cast really been pushing this movie as important? Yeah let's ignore greats like Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan and Jer Li. And think about the cast of a superhero movie that most audience don't know about until recently.

They did that "We're not an experiment!" thing a while back and the main one has been (though to be fair not particularly obnoxiously) going on about how psyched he is to be one of the few "Asian stars" of today. It's nowhere near as intense as the Black Panther campaign but it's been noticeable for sure.

 

[Oats12345]

They did that "We're not an experiment!" thing a while back and the main one has been (though to be fair not particularly obnoxiously) going on about how psyched he is to be one of the few "Asian stars" of today. It's nowhere near as intense as the Black Panther campaign but it's been noticeable for sure.

Dude should probably chill down. Wait until the movie comes out and see if his name will be remmber like Bruce Lee who has been dead for decades yet is still a known name like John Wayne.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Have the cast really been pushing this movie as important? Yeah let's ignore greats like Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan and Jet Li. And think about the cast of a superhero movie that most audience don't know about until recently.

Ignoring actual greats and erasing their prominence so that you can posture yourself as a pioneer fighting a RACIST and BIGOTED system is literally SOP for woke faggots.

 

[The Valeyard]

Marvel’s Katy (Awkwafina) seems annoying even in this short clip.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Have the cast really been pushing this movie as important? Yeah let's ignore greats like Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan and Jet Li. And think about the cast of a superhero movie that most audience don't know about until recently.

Yes.

 

[Oats12345]

Yes.
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Did this guy just say "fuck you to Bruce Lee, Jackie Chen and Jet Li"? Seriously dude what the fuck there were Asian action stars you could of watch growing up. Thanks for spitting on their careers (Bruce Lee specifically Grave). Especially Bruce Lee since he was form a time where there was actually racism to Asians and was able to breakthrough with a big Hollywood career at time that was considered impossible for someone like him. And even after dieing young and not having a very long career that he should have is still a known name to this day. So fuck you for not aklowedging him. Seriously I have had it with these woke shithead actors who think their hot shit.

 

[The Nothingness]

Yes.
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Black people who saw the marketing for Black Panther but knew of Blade, Spawn, Steel, and The Meteor Man:

 

[Gar For Archer]

Black people who saw the marketing for Black Panther but knew of Blade, Spawn, Steel, and The Meteor Man:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Qu_sVAByvBk

At least with those you could argue that they’re pretty niche, and only people who are into comic books would’ve known about or watched them. I certainly didn’t know that there was a Blade movie until people were using it as an example of Black Panther not being the first black superhero movie. Same can’t be said of Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, et. al. and the general concept of Kung fu movies.

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

At least with those you could argue that they’re pretty niche, and only people who are into comic books would’ve known about or watched them. I certainly didn’t know that there was a Blade movie until people were using it as an example of Black Panther not being the first black superhero movie. Same can’t be said of Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, et. al. and the general concept of Kung fu movies.

There was no other Blade movie. When the PG-13 MCU Blade is released it will be the first movie to ever star a black person, and if you disagree you're a NAZI and should be sent to a covid reeducation camp.

Finally saw the Eternals trailer and WOW OMG HOLY FUCK. The way the Chinese lady captured that drab gray filtered outdoor setting, really showcasing that one hill and some grass, blew my mind. It's like she paints a movie with her camera! No wonder she won an ACADEMY AWARD!

Shit looks gay, yo.

edit: I suppose I should actually try to add to the topic. Angelina looks great and makes me wish the movie was entirely about her heroic-looking character because everyone else just stands around in t-shirts and jeans looking confused and bored. I'm really sick of Salma Hayek. That little Mexican hobbit hasn't been hot since the '90s, and somehow her English has actually gotten worse after a quarter century. I can't stress how miscast she is in this, and this trailer is all I know about The Eternals.

Epic trailer ends with stupid Marvel quip jokes. Yawn.

Best part was the goofy white guy in jeans and t-shirt flying through the air like a bullet and shooting flying dogs with his lazer eyes. It looks so fucking bad.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

Yes.
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Yea, because Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, etc. didn't exist while you were growing up.

Everyone wants to be Bruce Lee. He's a goddamn icon.

A problem for me is that everything after Endgame and Thanos is feeling kinda inconsequential.

I can't shake this feeling that the MCU ended with Endgame and everything after it is a really long epilogue.

I get this same feeling too. I stopped watching the MCU after Far From Home.

Actual Justice Warrior argued that all of the TV shows are "part of canon" but are completely inconsequential to the MCU plotline. It's just too much to juggle at this.

By the Falcon and the Winter Soldier, the Falcon just ends up back where he was in Endgame. In WandaVision, the Vision and Scarlet Witch end up back where they were after the events of Endgame. And it makes you wonder why Monica Rambeau wasn't the star of Captain Marvel instead of a feminist plank.

Makes me question how much worth it it is for me to look at these TV shows.

It's that time again.

James Gunn on Martin Scorsese’s criticism of superhero movies: “Coming out against Marvel is the only thing that would get him press for his movie. He’s creating his movie in the shadow of Marvel, he uses that to get attention for something he wasn’t getting much attention for.”

Gunn tries to temper it but it still comes off as whiny bullshit.



Let it go, people, Scorsese hasn't even said anything about Marvel Movies in a while but he's been living rent-free in the heads of people who aspire to write superhero movies with Whedonian dialogue where characters say things like "totes amazeballs".

I kinda feel bad for Scorcese for all the flack he's getting for saying this stuff, but I think it all comes down to semantics and what he means by "cinema".

A film like The Godfather, if you adjust for inflation, would have made as much money when it was released into theaters as all of these Marvel films coming out. What's different about these two entities is that Marvel films aren't really deep. Everything is shown to you in a first viewing. The VFX, plot and etc. are all there, which is why I have only watched these films each once, maybe with the exception of Iron Man and Civil War. Even Black Panther is very apparant with what it's trying to say. There's nothing really special or groundbreaking going on in these films other than the fact that it's an entire cinematic universe they're working with.

Films in Scorcese's time and The Godfather involved everything mattering. A lot of artistic integrity was involved. In the 70s, directors like Coppola and Scorcese were given all the creative freedom in the world, so long as they stayed within budget. And the budgets were usually small. The lighting, soundtrack, the writing especially, sometimes the nudity, the cinematography, the way the characters acted, all of that stuff mattered and defined these directors. They also willfully stirred controversy because of what they were doing. I'm reminded of Last Tango in Paris. You don't even know the majority of the directors from the Marvel films and TV shows.

When Scorcese released The Irishman a while back, that appeal for long stories with intermissions and scenes with people sitting down giving important dialogue wasn't there like it was in the 70s, which is why he released the film on Netflix. You can see the box office results for something like Blade Runner 2049 and realize that the movie consumer is generally not interested in these drawn-out, artistic films in which a lot of thought is being put in, and is more interested in shit just being thrown in your face instead of letting your mind wander.

Iron-Man 2 is absolutely the worst movie in the MCU even if it's not as shitty as Black Panther, which literally gave terminal ass cancer to a guy it was so fucking bad. Audiences hadn't yet been conditioned to sit through ten minutes of credits to see a thirty-second snippet at the end of a movie, so if you hadn't seen Sam Jackson at the end of Iron-Man you'd have no idea who he was when he shows up in the second half of the sequel with no introduction and just starts ordering people around. God I hate Marvel so much. The MCU is like the iphone of movies.

Favreau was very upset with how Iron Man 2 came out. His film after that, Chef, was a small but very cheerful film. I enjoyed it when I watched it last month. It's also an analogy to his time directing Iron Man 2.

In my case I kinda enjoyed Black Panther and Thor 2, But GotG2 felt like that one guy who thinks he's really funny but isn't yet keeps making retarded jokes constantly

I generally liked Black Panther (there were a bunch of issues I could go all day talking about with it), but it still falls into those same Marvel tropes. Thor: Ragnarok and Black Panther have the same damn plot. Relative of protagonists feels that he/she has been wronged, she usurps the throne from the protagonist, the protagonist reached his low point and has to stop his relative and take his homeland back.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

I just want to say that as a martial arts sped who wishes he was like Bruce Lee, I feel personally attacked by that chink's statement of kids not having asian action heroes, fuck you faggot I grew up with Jakcie Chan, Jet Li and the aforementioned Bruce Lee, if he was 13-20 I would simply roll my eyes and say "typical zoomer who doesn't know anything made before 2009" but that nigga is 32 he has no excuse

 

[Secret Asshole]

I just want to say that as a martial arts sped who wishes he was like Bruce Lee, I feel personally attacked by that chink's statement of kids not having asian action heroes, fuck you faggot I grew up with Jakcie Chan, Jet Li and the aforementioned Bruce Lee, if he was 13-20 I would simply roll my eyes and say "typical zoomer who doesn't know anything made before 2009" but that nigga is 32 he has no excuse

Kids not having Asian action heroes? What the fuck? Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was absolutely fucking HUGE in America. It was fucking everywhere. You couldn't miss it. Jesus christ, these Disney talking points are getting more and more retarded with every release.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Jackie was so big when I was growing up he got his own cartoon.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee, and Jet Li were so well known to me in my youth, I knew who they were and what they were known for before I saw any of their movies.

Also these "Shang Chi is the first ever!" type of talk completely disregards cinema outside of the US. I've said it a million times, I grew up with Godzilla movies. It was a big part of my childhood and my exposure to a culture outside of my home country and featured predomentantly Japanese casts. the "Shang Chi first ever! Asians' rule!" sentiment completely disregards this.

 

[Product Placement]

Shit like oscar is so white, and this Shang Chi stuff, wouldn't be an issue if American's didn't fear the subtitles and world cinema.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=22Hy7jNoya4

I don't know why but I hate everything about that clip

 

[HumanHive]

Did this guy just say "fuck you to Bruce Lee, Jackie Chen and Jet Li"? Seriously dude what the fuck there were Asian action stars you could of watch growing up. Thanks for spitting on their careers (Bruce Lee specifically Grave). Especially Bruce Lee since he was form a time where there was actually racism to Asians and was able to breakthrough with a big Hollywood career at time that was considered impossible for someone like him. And even after dieing young and not having a very long career that he should have is still a known name to this day. So fuck you for not aklowedging him. Seriously I have had it with these woke shithead actors who think their hot shit.

Disney wants an eternal present where they and their actors’ egos will be forever satiated with “first ever” awards and various racial pandering. But the reality is that the Han have had a thriving film industry for almost as long as Hollywood and do not give a fuck about their superhero martial arts movie.