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Mary the Goldsmith dijo:
a little late for the guilty pleasure confessions but I'll confess I like the first Thor movie, and kinda like the second one, but absolutely despise Ragnarok it is the first film I've turned off midway and never resumed
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Agreed, never understood all the hate for Thor 2 myself, it's a perfectly average if forgettable film. Whereas Ragnarok was the epitome of the MCU being incapable of making a serious movie. Mostly I enjoyed Thors character arc of growing into the responsibility of leading his people, despite losing his family, friends, homeland and most of his people. Made him one of the more constantly sympathetic characters in the MCU. You know, until they decided to drop his entire character arc when it looked like it was about to reach its finale.
 
Mr Snek dijo:
Agreed, never understood all the hate for Thor 2 myself, it's a perfectly average if forgettable film. Whereas Ragnarok was the epitome of the MCU being incapable of making a serious movie. Mostly I enjoyed Thors character arc of growing into the responsibility of leading his people, despite losing his family, friends, homeland and most of his people. Made him one of the more constantly sympathetic characters in the MCU. You know, until they decided to drop his entire character arc when it looked like it was about to reach its finale.
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Ragnarok was basically two entirely different movies smushed together. It's actually guilty of the same thing I criticize Star Trek: First Contact for having. Planet Hulk is more like a GotG kind of premise with Thor in it that languidly has to have the Ragnarok part of the movie. It might actually be worse than First Contact because at least First Contact tried to tie the two separate plots together; the Borg were the threat to Cochrane's rocket working. I can't remember what Hel and Planet Hulk have in common aside from Valkyrie, who noped out of Asgardian society a long time ago. Hel doesn't care about gladiator planet.

Maybe it would have worked better as Planet Hulk guest starring Thor.
 
Mr Snek dijo:
Agreed, never understood all the hate for Thor 2 myself, it's a perfectly average if forgettable film. Whereas Ragnarok was the epitome of the MCU being incapable of making a serious movie. Mostly I enjoyed Thors character arc of growing into the responsibility of leading his people, despite losing his family, friends, homeland and most of his people. Made him one of the more constantly sympathetic characters in the MCU. You know, until they decided to drop his entire character arc when it looked like it was about to reach its finale.
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I'm kind of iffy because literally every single criticism I see of Ragnarok is 100% accurate, but it's still the best Thor movie imo. Hemsworth's Thor works better as a "frat douche" character despite not actually acting like that in the source material, and I felt like the comedy worked a lot better in that than something like the first two Avengers or Captain Marvel. I do hope a lot of this "lol, 80's tho!" shit we're seeing in the run up to Love and Thunder is a slight misdirect because after Guardians 2 it does feel like they're jst afraid of anything sincere without the safety of 'PUNCHLINE PUNCHLINE QUIPQUIPQUIP'. Like the Guardians of the Galaxy; the first time it was good, the second time it was acceptable, but I really hope you pump the breaks on the shit now. Kind of why I hope Etenerals ends up ok. I'd love for them not to feel like they NEED to coat everything resembling sincerity in a wacky humor shell.

Speaking of, Iron Man 1 side-stepped most of that dogshit brilliantly in a way not even 2 and 3 did, and I've always found it weird.
 
KillThemCrackasBabies dijo:
Speaking of, Iron Man 1 side-stepped most of that dogshit brilliantly in a way not even 2 and 3 did, and I've always found it weird.
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The first movies in each characters story are the best films in the MCU, because they actually have character development, the characters start off flawed and learn lessons. The movies after this are so boring because outside of maybe one or two examples, there is no more development. And I don't really hate Ragnarok, it's a fun watch but I do wish it had been a bit more serious, the only joke that really got a laugh out of me was "Are you Thor, god of hammers?"
 
Mr Snek dijo:
The first movies in each characters story are the best films in the MCU, because they actually have character development, the characters start off flawed and learn lessons. The movies after this are so boring because outside of maybe one or two examples, there is no more development. And I don't really hate Ragnarok, it's a fun watch but I do wish it had been a bit more serious, the only joke that really got a laugh out of me was "Are you Thor, god of hammers?"
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Get rid of the director's bullshit self-insert character undercutting every single emotional moment with shitty non-jokes and it would be a much better film.
 
Mr Snek dijo:
The first movies in each characters story are the best films in the MCU, because they actually have character development, the characters start off flawed and learn lessons. The movies after this are so boring because outside of maybe one or two examples, there is no more development. And I don't really hate Ragnarok, it's a fun watch but I do wish it had been a bit more serious, the only joke that really got a laugh out of me was "Are you Thor, god of hammers?"
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The clear exception is Captain America. Like… his first movie was okay, but Winter Soldier is much better in every way and like Iron Man 1 even sorta stands on its own as a pretty good movie, outside the context of the MCU.
 
I really like the first half of the first Captain America movie, the second half kinda sucks though. The first Thor movie I thought was ruined by really shitty pacing, with Thor becoming worthy and redeemed because... he hung out with Natalie Portman for like a day. Really should've added like a month time jump there with maybe a montage of him having to work for a living and becoming friends with the residents of the town or something.
 
I wonder if all this multiverse stuff is gonna be a bridge too far for some people.

My mom is what you would call a "Normie", and she enjoys the MCU movies, but she didn't like Loki, because she just found it confusing and weird.
 
Gaear Grimsrud dijo:
I wonder if all this multiverse stuff is gonna be a bridge too far for some people.

My mom is what you would call a "Normie", and she enjoys the MCU movies, but she didn't like Loki, because she just found it confusing and weird.
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Time travel was always a shaky proposition, especially since Endgame explained it so poorly that they had to do it twice; once in the lab and again with the Ancient One. So to have a show about time travel was always sus. Especially when the Loki character would have been better served trolling Cosmic Marvel as a supervillain instead of getting slapped around.
 
Drag-on Knight 91873 dijo:
Time travel was always a shaky proposition, especially since Endgame explained it so poorly that they had to do it twice; once in the lab and again with the Ancient One. So to have a show about time travel was always sus. Especially when the Loki character would have been better served trolling Cosmic Marvel as a supervillain instead of getting slapped around.
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I don't even think it's the time travel stuff necessarily. She just found all these different versions of Loki weird and off-putting.
 
Drag-on Knight 91873 dijo:
Time travel was always a shaky proposition, especially since Endgame explained it so poorly that they had to do it twice; once in the lab and again with the Ancient One. So to have a show about time travel was always sus. Especially when the Loki character would have been better served trolling Cosmic Marvel as a supervillain instead of getting slapped around.
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Except it doesn't even really work there, because changing the past doesn't change the present... except Sam and Bucky got to meet Old Steve, so apparently it can.

Time-travel shows can be fun, but shows about time travel can make your brain hurt.
 
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