Marvel Cinematic Universe

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That was supposed to be a teenager? I never got the memo. I could not feel anything for her. I thought it was the freckles. I could not get why Sam was all horrified by Walker killing one guy, but this chick kept killing people left and right and Sam seemed to want to "save" her and probably make her an Avenger later. Bucky probably killed hundreds of people but that's OK, Walker has one "oh shit" and we gotta throw him right out.
Bucky was on a conditional pardon by the US government, he wasn't let off the hook at all. Walker was made into a walking mascot by the US and killed a dude that had no part in his partner's death just to get some kind of emotional catharsis which is not how a solider is supposed to act. Frankly, it's lucky that John wasn't thrown in jail.
 
Falcon and Winter Solider set up a lot of plot lines but most of them aren't given the time needed nor backed up with the writing needed to make them anything but shallow, they really should have cut the amount of plot lines and stopped trying to set up future marvel shit and be more concerned with it's own quality.

Take Falcon's family and the stuff about the boat, it really added nothing to the show and could have been cut with a very small rewrite. Not saying his family couldn't be a point of interest in the show but it's not given any time to be anything more than time wasted and having the most lazy link to other plot lines, But most of the plot lines start to feel like that by the end of the show.
 
Falcon and Winter Solider set up a lot of plot lines but most of them aren't given the time needed nor backed up with the writing needed to make them anything but shallow, they really should have cut the amount of plot lines and stopped trying to set up future marvel shit and be more concerned with it's own quality.

Take Falcon's family and the stuff about the boat, it really added nothing to the show and could have been cut with a very small rewrite. Not saying his family couldn't be a point of interest in the show but it's not given any time to be anything more than time wasted and having the most lazy link to other plot lines, But most of the plot lines start to feel like that by the end of the show.
The boat thing was fine IMO, it was the bank bit that was unnecessary since that did literally go nowhere. The community aspect was what I enjoyed the most and it made for a satisfying close to the series. You can really tell that Covid fucked with the overall pacing though.
 
I thought it was good but the quality of the story was brought down by that horrible female villain character Karly or whatever her name is. They tried so hard to make her sympathetic while showing her endlessly attacking and blowing people up. It was hard to even understand what her motivation was. She was also supposed to be a teenage girl yet knows martial arts, has started a terrorist organization with apparently millions of followers and can just casually cross continents while being enemy number one of the most powerful governments on earth.
I absolutely hated Karli. She was a close-minded bitch. When she got shot by Carter, I said "YES!" out loud at her getting killed.
What a generic trailer. The cinematography is boring (typical of what the MCU has become), carefully crafted based on focus group feedback, they even have that ugly gook to do the quips. I'm actually surprised that they didn't use "War Ready" for the music.
Do you think the Chinese audience will want to watch that?
They can't possible be doing this for the China market anymore. Every movie Disney makes for China flops in China. Mulan and Raya both grossed around $20 million in China. Meanwhile, Godzilla vs. Kong is closing in on $200 million.

Unless there is some edict from the commies where Disney has to release a movie set in China once a year or they can't release the next Avengers there or something.
Imo, probably not.

Remember, they said that Liu and Awkwafina were ugly and not watchable, which is why Awkwafina's recent films failed in China.

Chinese-Americans producing and releasing films in China just doesn't work out well.

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FATWAS was entertaining but really came up short in most areas.

They needed to establish what was going on in the world to actually give Karli's plot and arc a purpose. Is there a Marvel film that got delayed because of the pandemic that fleshed out the post snap and snap undoing world?

That Karli actress didn't work as the leader of the rebels in SOLO, so I don't know why they'd think she'd work in this role. I guess she fills some look of a rebel leader for Disney but she's not a convincing leader.

So does the super-soldier serum give you the ability to fight? Most of the fights felt inconsistent about who was more powerful or skilled.

Falcon's headpiece looked stupid in his final costume. I know there's a point of a non super powered hero, but give him a helmet to protect the top of his head. Also make his costume more akin to an Iron Man or Black Panther suit. Not just look like fabric.
 
FATWAS was entertaining but really came up short in most areas.

They needed to establish what was going on in the world to actually give Karli's plot and arc a purpose. Is there a Marvel film that got delayed because of the pandemic that fleshed out the post snap and snap undoing world?

That Karli actress didn't work as the leader of the rebels in SOLO, so I don't know why they'd think she'd work in this role. I guess she fills some look of a rebel leader for Disney but she's not a convincing leader.

So does the super-soldier serum give you the ability to fight? Most of the fights felt inconsistent about who was more powerful or skilled.

Falcon's headpiece looked stupid in his final costume. I know there's a point of a non super powered hero, but give him a helmet to protect the top of his head. Also make his costume more akin to an Iron Man or Black Panther suit. Not just look like fabric.
The whole “snap” and “unsnap” thing is a big ???????? in the MCU. There’s no way they can address it in any serious and thorough manner without raising a whole lot of questions they don’t have the answers to, the most you can do is raise surface-level concerns and brush away everything else with “it’s just a movie, don’t think about it too hard”. Because if something like this actually happened IRL - half of all life on Earth disappearing and then coming back 5 years later - just the snap on its own would likely cause a collapse of the world’s ecosystems, everyone coming back all at once would strain a slowly recovering system past the breaking point.

Really, the way it’s been treated so far feels more like what would happen if 15-20% of life got wiped out. It would take a massive toll, but it wouldn’t fast-track the end of civilization or anything, and when people come back you’re not dealing with like a 30% global homeless/unemployment rate.
 
FATWAS was entertaining but really came up short in most areas.

They needed to establish what was going on in the world to actually give Karli's plot and arc a purpose. Is there a Marvel film that got delayed because of the pandemic that fleshed out the post snap and snap undoing world?

That Karli actress didn't work as the leader of the rebels in SOLO, so I don't know why they'd think she'd work in this role. I guess she fills some look of a rebel leader for Disney but she's not a convincing leader.

So does the super-soldier serum give you the ability to fight? Most of the fights felt inconsistent about who was more powerful or skilled.

Falcon's headpiece looked stupid in his final costume. I know there's a point of a non super powered hero, but give him a helmet to protect the top of his head. Also make his costume more akin to an Iron Man or Black Panther suit. Not just look like fabric.
I've heard that the original plot was meant to be about a virus wiping people out (hence why they were going after vaccines in episode 2 and why Karli's mother figure died) so that would explain why it feels janky plot-wise. I agree that the costume needs a tweak and maybe a proper helmet. He's really asking for a sniper to take him out otherwise.
 
I call bullshit on that. Sounds like ego stroking or arrogance that Marvel would want to steal a fan's ideas and put them in the show.
No, what they’re saying is that because Marvel saw that people thought they were hinting at Reed Richards, they had to change things in the show as less of a build up to temper said expectations. Basically a “ah shit, people think we’re introducing the Fantastic Four, dial back the mystery!”
 
Watched the FATWS finale today. It was okay -- the entire season was consistently just okay. The worst part of the finale for me was Sam's speech towards the end. The world's governments have a serious problem due to millions (probably billions) of people suddenly returning and all Captain America can do is spout empty platitudes.
Politicians: What should we do about the millions that were displaced due to the snap?
Sam: Uhhh... just do better, okay?

The Flag Smashers were a dud. Probably should've just focused on Zemo, the Power Broker, and the super soldier serum. Could've even brought back Arnim Zola. Related to the serum, how is the super soldier serum 'off the table' now? The government has at least four corpses with the stuff in their system plus possibly one living super soldier in custody.
 
No, what they’re saying is that because Marvel saw that people thought they were hinting at Reed Richards, they had to change things in the show as less of a build up to temper said expectations. Basically a “ah shit, people think we’re introducing the Fantastic Four, dial back the mystery!”
I swear I've seen this sort of thing happen more lately, creators changing the plot because they can't get their eyes off the audience. It completely misses the fun of mysteries. People are supposed to have the chance of figuring it/getting it wrong.
 
No, what they’re saying is that because Marvel saw that people thought they were hinting at Reed Richards, they had to change things in the show as less of a build up to temper said expectations. Basically a “ah shit, people think we’re introducing the Fantastic Four, dial back the mystery!”
Yeah that makes more sense. I have seen the thing I mentioned happen before so I guess I'm cynical lol.

Watched the FATWS finale today. It was okay -- the entire season was consistently just okay. The worst part of the finale for me was Sam's speech towards the end. The world's governments have a serious problem due to millions (probably billions) of people suddenly returning and all Captain America can do is spout empty platitudes.
Politicians: What should we do about the millions that were displaced due to the snap?
Sam: Uhhh... just do better, okay?

The Flag Smashers were a dud. Probably should've just focused on Zemo, the Power Broker, and the super soldier serum. Could've even brought back Arnim Zola. Related to the serum, how is the super soldier serum 'off the table' now? The government has at least four corpses with the stuff in their system plus possibly one living super soldier in custody.
It's not really Sam's job to have the answers tbqh, that's on the senators since they have all the power and resources. They didn't really give a fuck about the currently settled people, all it was doing was swapping one set of refugees for another without understanding the core problem and just labelling people as terrorists or whatever if they resisted. Remember - Sam didn't condone Karli's methods, he just understood her issues. It's why he wouldn't fight her, but still tried to stop her.
 
It's not really Sam's job to have the answers tbqh, that's on the senators since they have all the power and resources. They didn't really give a fuck about the currently settled people, all it was doing was swapping one set of refugees for another without understanding the core problem and just labelling people as terrorists or whatever if they resisted. Remember - Sam didn't condone Karli's methods, he just understood her issues. It's why he wouldn't fight her, but still tried to stop her.
That's not how his speech is presented, though. The senators look around all embarrassed and ashamed as if they've just been schooled, with a news report later confirming they're rethinking their plans and a character commenting it was likely because of Sam. Realistically it isn't on Sam to come up with the answers... but the show seems to think that there were answers in that speech.
 
That's not how his speech is presented, though. The senators look around all embarrassed and ashamed as if they've just been schooled, with a news report later confirming they're rethinking their plans and a character commenting it was likely because of Sam. Realistically it isn't on Sam to come up with the answers... but the show seems to think that there were answers in that speech.
I just saw it as Captain America holding them to an ideal they're supposed to represent. It's unrealistic in a show mostly trying to be realistic, but if I can swallow a man flying about and throwing a shield with perfect accuracy then politicians actually doing their jobs isn't that far-fetched.
 
It's not really Sam's job to have the answers tbqh, that's on the senators since they have all the power and resources.
And maybe perhaps people shouldn't try to burn everything down because The Government is dealing with 2 unimaginable events in the course of 5 years.

Maybe the Avengers should have told somebody that they were doing this shit as they were building the time machine.

Hulk : *rings up Ross* "hey TB..we got a plan to undo The Decimation, so ya'll maybe you should tell the president and him and congress can get prepared...SHITTY DABBING HULK OUUUUUUT"

then politicians actually doing their jobs isn't that far-fetched.
Have you seen politicians in real life? I would believe Thanos showing up in real life before I believe that Congress is actually going to (CORRECTLY) solve a problem.
 
And maybe perhaps people shouldn't try to burn everything down because The Government is dealing with 2 unimaginable events in the course of 5 years.

Maybe the Avengers should have told somebody that they were doing this shit as they were building the time machine.

Hulk : *rings up Ross* "hey TB..we got a plan to undo The Decimation, so ya'll maybe you should tell the president and him and congress can get prepared...SHITTY DABBING HULK OUUUUUUT"
Avengers aren't really proactive enough for that. We need the Nowvengers: They get it done right away.
 
The boat thing was fine IMO, it was the bank bit that was unnecessary since that did literally go nowhere. The community aspect was what I enjoyed the most and it made for a satisfying close to the series. You can really tell that Covid fucked with the overall pacing though.
My point was, everything feels under developed, whether or not the boat/family plot was cut or another plot line was cut, they need to cut something to give the other stuff the time need to be fully thought out and fleshed out. I really doubt covid would have fixed most of the issues, feels like most of it was them wanting to set up a ton of other marvel movie and shows rather than anything else.
 
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