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Kurosaki Ichigo dijo:
They were clearly implying possible police brutality on Sam because yelling black man. Its not too huge of a stretch that the two officers could’ve just been some government officials there to arrest Bucky for skipping therapy in a scrapped script but the pandering was too enticing or something.
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The whole scene with the black supersoldier felt completely out of place and tbh I was so uninterested due to the awful pacing and uninteresting subplots with the flag smashers (Seriously it felt so lifeless and they have that weird ginger girl from Solo as the focus) that I just kinda zoned out. That and the Cop Intervention were clearly inserted to inject a very unnecessary and weird racial message into a story which frankly doesn't need it. Falcon was NEVER made a big deal about because of his race in the past (to my recollection) so this was utterly bizarre and just dragged the already insomnia curing pacing down.

I am gonna watch the rest of this (via the high seas) but I am having a three strikes rule in place, if the rest of this series continues to be drivel, that will be Strike 2 after Wandavision's underwhelming story. If Loki sucks, then that's Strike 3 and I am out.

I know I shit on the MCU constantly, but I actually did use to like the MCU despite some issues with some of the movies, but the left wing agenda driven writing and the rather complacent and lazy nature of the editing and scripts has seriously soured me on them, that and Disney being a dreadful company nowadays. I was expecting these shows to be somewhat entertaining and just like some of the movies, but so far I am very let down more than I ever wanted. I went into Wandavision with good expectations! I EVEN LIKED THE STYLE IT HAD UNTIL IT OUTSTAYED ITS WELCOME! But was overall a flawed and meandering bore with a very unsatisfying plot. Falcon and Winter Soldier seems to be that, just with more weird social justice agendas and less experimental elements, which makes it worse.

And also, I am very shocked at the lack of discussion about this, on /tv/ and twitter (aside from a brief surge when a new episode came out), there aren't even any memes or quips being spread around seem to like. That gives off a very worrying sign for the MCU if this becomes a common trend.
 
InsolentGaylord dijo:
The whole scene with the black supersoldier felt completely out of place and tbh I was so uninterested due to the awful pacing and uninteresting subplots with the flag smashers (Seriously it felt so lifeless and they have that weird ginger girl from Solo as the focus) that I just kinda zoned out. That and the Cop Intervention were clearly inserted to inject a very unnecessary and weird racial message into a story which frankly doesn't need it. Falcon was NEVER made a big deal about because of his race in the past (to my recollection) so this was utterly bizarre and just dragged the already insomnia curing pacing down.

I am gonna watch the rest of this (via the high seas) but I am having a three strikes rule in place, if the rest of this series continues to be drivel, that will be Strike 2 after Wandavision's underwhelming story. If Loki sucks, then that's Strike 3 and I am out.

I know I shit on the MCU constantly, but I actually did use to like the MCU despite some issues with some of the movies, but the left wing agenda driven writing and the rather complacent and lazy nature of the editing and scripts has seriously soured me on them, that and Disney being a dreadful company nowadays. I was expecting these shows to be somewhat entertaining and just like some of the movies, but so far I am very let down more than I ever wanted. I went into Wandavision with good expectations! I EVEN LIKED THE STYLE IT HAD UNTIL IT OUTSTAYED ITS WELCOME! But was overall a flawed and meandering bore with a very unsatisfying plot. Falcon and Winter Soldier seems to be that, just with more weird social justice agendas and less experimental elements, which makes it worse.

And also, I am very shocked at the lack of discussion about this, on /tv/ and twitter (aside from a brief surge when a new episode came out), there aren't even any memes or quips being spread around seem to like. That gives off a very worrying sign for the MCU if this becomes a common trend.
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F+S is a thriller so it's a lot harder to get super excited about. I imagine Loki will do better due to the cosmic elements.
 
Watched the first episode last week, and watched the second one tonight.

It's okay so far ... But I have issues with the second episode:

1. Too. Many. Quips. It was to the point where both Bucky and Sam were too busy quipping while fighting super soldier terrorists to the point where I was like "Um ... Is ANYBODY going to help the new Cap here?! They're the only ones trying to get shit done!" It immediately made me more sympathetic to John Walker when it's obvious that he's supposed to be the jackass in the situation. Bucky and Sam, sadly, came across as pretty unlikable in this episode.

2. The "couples therapy" scene was kinda cringe at the beginning because the "humor" kept dragging on. Weirdo women are going to write fanfics about this scene.

3. The cop scene in Baltimore was crinnnnnnge. Jesus Christ, that was about as subtle as a hammer.

On the positive side, I'm excited for Zemo, and the plot itself is interesting.
 
starborn427614 dijo:
To be fair to Valkyrie, that's part of her character arc. She's much better in Endgame since she actually has people to protect again.
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I honestly don't really remember her in Endgame. So yes, I'd agree she's better.

No particular beef with the actress, btw. Just find the character completely obnoxious.

Gar For Archer dijo:
I thought I was mostly alone in hating Thor Ragnorak. That movie’s pretty much the definition of all style, no substance with yet another bland fucking villain with an army of bland fucking zombie mooks.

I’ve definitely commented this before, but Hela would’ve been infinitely better if her army had consisted of Asgardians who were sick of Odin sitting on his ass doing nothing, and were 100% behind a new leader promising a return to conquering the nine realms, following Hela completely of their own volition.
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No, you're not alone. I don't utterly hate it in that there's some great stuff in it. The Hulk vs. Thor fight is great. But if I could pick one moment to illustrate what I do hate about the film it would be when Thor throws that ball at the window to break it and the ball bounces back and hits him in the head. Aside from the dumbness of it - Thor can take multiple punches from the Hulk but a bouncing ball knocks him silly - it just undercuts the drama for a cheap joke. And this is something that is repeated throughout the entire movie. The film wants to have its cake and eat it by being stupid and epic at the same time. It makes a great attempt at that - I liked the "what were you the God of, again?" moment despite the pratfalling in the rest of the movie. And that shot of Thor flying down on the dead soldiers from side on at the bridge is a work of art. But ultimately the cheap humour is like glitter - once you open that tube it's impossible to stop the sparkley shit contaminating everything else.

So no, you're not alone. I would like the movie if it couldn't have been so much more.

Phony Negro dijo:
Honestly, there was some Whedon-esque dialogue in the episode that was distracting and took away from the tone of the episode. And that cop scene was fucking weird. Were they trying to pander, or what?
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I think Whedon humour is like simple carbs. People have enjoyed their sweet pudding but now they're starting to feel a little queasy with it and hanker for something actually nutritious. They want complex carbs and real flavour. That's why I think the DC movies have (in most cases) will have more actual staying power and be looked at more fondly. Hell, maybe even Suicide Squad because awful though it was, it's not going to be this hyper-ironic Whedonesque stuff that's already dating badly. Zeitgeist will move on.
 
So I just read in a clickbait "mainstream site" that Google pushed to me, that they're now retroactively "canceling" Tony Stark because Falcon says the Avengers weren't paid for their heroics.

Yeah, for woke "class struggle" points let's ignore that inbetween Winter Soldier and Civil War they explicitly say Tony pays for the whole show (in lieu of SHIELD) and after that there's nothing to pay for since they're disbanded, working solo and/or in hiding because they violated the Sokovia Accords. Falcon himself was only officially an Avenger between Age of Ultron and Civil War.
 
Pinochet Was Right dijo:
So I just read in a clickbait "mainstream site" that Google pushed to me, that they're now retroactively "canceling" Tony Stark because Falcon says the Avengers weren't paid for their heroics.

Yeah, for woke "class struggle" points let's ignore that inbetween Winter Soldier and Civil War they explicitly say Tony pays for the whole show (in lieu of SHIELD) and after that there's nothing to pay for since they're disbanded, working solo and/or in hiding because they violated the Sokovia Accords. Falcon himself was only officially an Avenger between Age of Ultron and Civil War.
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I've seen these arguments from non-woke idiots too. Bunch of horse shit really.
 
Enough of this, we need the X-men enters the MCU project I've been thinking of for all these years, specifically it should feature this as a scene.

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thhrang dijo:
A teaser trailer for Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings was released earlier today.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=giWIr7U1deAAnd also a poster.
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>teaser
It's two fucking minutes long. Just call it a trailer holy shit.

Anyway, it looked pretty good until that part at the end with the bus. Obviously the script will be your average Marvel fair but hopefully the fight scenes will make up for it. A lot of people are speculating that the bracelets they focus on at 1:03 are the ten rings.

How long until some SJW on twitter bitches that there's no black people in this?

Also unrelated but there are rumors that the main villain of Spiderman 3 is Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin so now I guess I'm watching Spiderman 3 when it comes out.
 
Internet's Boyfriend dijo:
>teaser
It's two fucking minutes long. Just call it a trailer holy shit.

Anyway, it looked pretty good until that part at the end with the bus. Obviously the script will be your average Marvel fair but hopefully the fight scenes will make up for it. A lot of people are speculating that the bracelets they focus on at 1:03 are the ten rings.

How long until some SJW on twitter bitches that there's no black people in this?

Also unrelated but there are rumors that the main villain of Spiderman 3 is Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin so now I guess I'm watching Spiderman 3 when it comes out.
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I assume it's a different Norman Osborn since we actually saw him die on screen? I've heard Doc Ock from the Raimiverse is back since technically we just saw him sinking into the ocean and not dying per se.
 
starborn427614 dijo:
I assume it's a different Norman Osborn since we actually saw him die on screen? I've heard Doc Ock from the Raimiverse is back since technically we just saw him sinking into the ocean and not dying per se.
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It could be a different Norman. I've only seen people say Dafoe is playing Goblin but not what iteration so maybe it's another universe's Norman. We'll have to see.

Alfred Molina has confirmed that he's 100% playing Raimiverse Doc Ock though. They're even de-aging him so he looks like he did in 2004.
 
Internet's Boyfriend dijo:
>teaser
It's two fucking minutes long. Just call it a trailer holy shit.

Anyway, it looked pretty good until that part at the end with the bus. Obviously the script will be your average Marvel fair but hopefully the fight scenes will make up for it. A lot of people are speculating that the bracelets they focus on at 1:03 are the ten rings.

How long until some SJW on twitter bitches that there's no black people in this?

Also unrelated but there are rumors that the main villain of Spiderman 3 is Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin so now I guess I'm watching Spiderman 3 when it comes out.
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starborn427614 dijo:
I assume it's a different Norman Osborn since we actually saw him die on screen? I've heard Doc Ock from the Raimiverse is back since technically we just saw him sinking into the ocean and not dying per se.
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No Goblin in the credits. Just Oc and Electro

 
Iron Hamster dijo:
No Goblin in the credits. Just Oc and Electro

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Obviously they're just rumors right now, but there have been a few people who are allegedly reliable making hints and talking about it. GWW reported that Dafoe was seen on set and said it was confirmed by the same source that told them about Molina returning as Doc Ock. There's this big masterpost on r/MarvelStudioSpoilers with a ton of info about the film.

A user who leaked Julia Louis-Dreyfus being in F&TWS also allegedly leaked a very vague outline of the plot which mentions Dafoe being the main villain, but it's worth noting that they failed r/MSS's verification process.
 
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