Marvel Cinematic Universe

[Twinkletard]

I think trying mush the X-Men content into the MCU is going to be a disaster. There's so much X-Men crap that it's practically its own universe that sometimes does crossovers with the rest of the Marvel setting in the comics from what I remember.

Disney will dumb it all down for the mouthbreathers. They're very good at that.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Francois Arnaud aka Cesare Borgia would make a great Gambit but at the same time I do not trust Feige or Disney to make it work on account of how they ruined Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. (I don't fault Lizzie Olsen since she actually made an effort to research the character and stated in several interviews she tried copying Wanda's hand incantations.) Shoehorning mutants in now would be ridiculous.

The Fantastic Four is another franchise I just cannot see working in the mainstream MCU. They're on a whole other level entirely not to mention borderline unfilmable in live action. Marvel tried to overload it with different teams (for example there was to be a New Warriors show featuring the girl from the phone commercial as Squirrel Girl) but they all got canned for some inexplicable reason.

 

[Goodbye Horses]

Gambit looks like he chugged a whole litre of soy milk and ate some avocado sandwich before posing for that.

Gambit has always been a flaming homo, so no change there then.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Call me optimistic, but I think the MCU is finally going crash hard and die out before they can even get a proper chance to introduce the X-Men and Fantastic Four into the seris.

Between COVID-19 hitting Disney pretty hard and the fact that the MCU has already reached the original "series finale" with the Endgame movie from last year and how even normies are getting increasingly sick of woke culture (and were even before George Floyd and Corona) we're due for the "big one" that outright bombs at the box office and tanks the franchise.

Phase 4 seems to be scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel for material while they wait on the X-Men rights issues to be fully resolved and they're adding more of the detested "Woke Marvel" characters into the MCU as well. COVID-19 has also crippled their largest foreign market and the summer lockdowns and delays mean they won't get all that domestic box office money from bored normies either.

I've said this many times before, but the only Phase 4 MCU film I know for a fact will be a huge hit is Black Widow since she's well-established as a character and it's the first one that's going to be released so the gaps between Phase 3 and 4 probably won't hurt it as bad, especially since it's a prequel.

The Doctor Strange sequel will probably do good since Sam Raimi's directing it, but anything else is a potential box office flop or underperformance

 

[Dom Cruise]

I think trying mush the X-Men content into the MCU is going to be a disaster. There's so much X-Men crap that it's practically its own universe that sometimes does crossovers with the rest of the Marvel setting in the comics from what I remember.

I've always thought X-Men fit poorly into the rest of the Marvel universe, it doesn't make sense why if it's a world where there's more superheroes than just the X-Men people would be bigoted against the X-Men but not anyone else.

Especially in the context of the MCU it would make even less sense when there's already been other superheroes for years saving the day, you really expect me to believe anyone would be bigoted against superheroes in a post Thanos world? It would be a huge mistake to try to add the X-Men into the MCU.

I'm of the mind that X-Men movies should be retired entirely, it had it's run, they did what they could with it, anything more would just be repeating itself, time to move on to other things.

I know Hollywood loves money but it would be a bad investment, there's no way anything new X-Men related won't bomb like Dark Phoenix did, stick a fork in it, it's done, Hollywood needs to learn that sometimes a cash cow simply runs dry.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Personally, Endgame was a good enough ending for me and I find myself having a harder time getting excited about anything MCU.

Falcon and Winter Soldier is the only thing I'm looking forward too, and to a lesser extent the Black Widow movie (and even that is dampened by the fact that I know what happens to her in Endgame), so yeah. Everything else...yeah no...I'm just not feeling it.

You couldn't pay me to give a crap about The Eternals, and before MCU, X-Men had its great movies (I put Logan above a majority of the MCU actually) and has also been done to death, so I've had my fill. I'm more excited for Spider-Verse 2 than more Tom Holland Spider-Man (unless they do Kraven's Last Hunt, then I'm on board). And I wasn't the biggest fan of Dr. Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, or Guardians 2, so sequels to those? Yeah, I don't care.

 

[Dom Cruise]

The only thing I care about is more Spider-Man, I quite enjoyed Far From Home.

In a perfect world Spidey would have been introduced far sooner and his 3 movie arc would have been completed before Endgame and Endgame really would have been the whole end of the MCU.

But nope, it's inevitable at this point that instead of ending with a bang it's going to just gradually peter out, it's a shame.

 

[Lensherr]

I’m mildly interested in seeing how they handle integrating the X-Men and Fantastic 4 into the franchise, but other than that, I’m just not super excited about anything else.

The only other Marvel characters getting new MCU installments that I truly care about are Thor and Spider-Man, and I’m worried that they’re gonna fuck up the former by introducing FemThor and and the latter is basically Iron Man Jr. at this point.

On top of that, as I’ve gotten older, the MCU has started to lose its appeal to me as I’ve started to gravitate to more mature media. I just don’t get the same thrill out of these movies as I did when I was younger.

 

[XYZpdq]

Fantastic 4 into the franchise

I expect "they go into space, get Fantastic per the usual origin" and in the long-term Reed replaces Tony as voice of science for the MCU

 

[SmugAutist]

I expect "they go into space, get Fantastic per the usual origin" and in the long-term Reed replaces Tony as voice of science for the MCU

A huWhite man being the voice of science? That's not very woke, is it?

The time for the F4 to be integrated is gone. They're meant to be the elders of the Marvel Universe. The F4 kickstarted Marvel as we know it. These guys should've been in Phase 1 . It just flat out doesn't work if you're going to have Reed Richards be a junior to Tony Stark. The only other way that it can be done is if they retcon them as always being there but just away from Earth but in no way would I buy Nick Fury or Tony not once mentioning Reed. It'd be a worse retcon than Carol. The only way I could see it working is if they laugh it off. Ben Grimm could look at the battle in NY in the first movie and then just shut the curtain and go back to his business.

THe X-Men also don't work because of the same reason. Mutants have been around since the dawn of Man, and Magneto was aware of his powers since WWII. You mean to tell me that not once did any mutant get detected by SHIELD or HYDRA?

It's better to just let these two teams for themselves. It'd be a clusterfuck if they got introduced.

 

[Scratch This Nut]

A huWhite man being the voice of science? That's not very woke, is it?

The time for the F4 to be integrated is gone. They're meant to be the elders of the Marvel Universe. The F4 kickstarted Marvel as we know it. These guys should've been in Phase 1 . It just flat out doesn't work if you're going to have Reed Richards be a junior to Tony Stark. The only other way that it can be done is if they retcon them as always being there but just away from Earth but in no way would I buy Nick Fury or Tony not once mentioning Reed. It'd be a worse retcon than Carol. The only way I could see it working is if they laugh it off. Ben Grimm could look at the battle in NY in the first movie and then just shut the curtain and go back to his business.

THe X-Men also don't work because of the same reason. Mutants have been around since the dawn of Man, and Magneto was aware of his powers since WWII. You mean to tell me that not once did any mutant get detected by SHIELD or HYDRA?

It's better to just let these two teams for themselves. It'd be a clusterfuck if they got introduced.

In Spider-Man: Far From Home it was suggested that those time shenanigans in Endgame brought in people from other universes. Bet that’s what’s going to happen here.

I really hope they put off Black Widow until next year. Give the world a year to get hyped again after Endgame.

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

In Spider-Man: Far From Home it was suggested that those time shenanigans in Endgame brought in people from other universes. Bet that’s what’s going to happen here.

I really hope they put off Black Widow until next year. Give the world a year to get hyped again after Endgame.

Whatever anybody can fanwank about upcoming marvel movies is infinitely better than what they'll actually do.

If they made Reed nonwhite some dude like Rami Malek could be fine, I'm just sick of blackwashing everything.

 

[Scratch This Nut]

Whatever anybody can fanwank about upcoming marvel movies is infinitely better than what they'll actually do.

If they made Reed nonwhite some dude like Rami Malek could be fine, I'm just sick of blackwashing everything.

My younger brother wants to work for Marvel one day and he will make you eat your words!

If it’s anyone but John Krasinski I’m not watching it.

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

My younger brother wants to work for Marvel one day and he will make you eat your words!

If it’s anyone but John Krasinski I’m not watching it.

But Hwhite men are cancelled though I know Jim from the office is grizzled and aged enough to be Reed, current year(tm) would never allow it. He would be good.

I'd want the freedom to cast all unknowns and build them up but there's too much money riding on this shit anymore.

 

[Stardust]

Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are what I'm curious about, moving forward, since they were in Fox's and Disney's respective universes.

I was disappointed Dr. Doom had been treated like garbage in Fox's films. He is so much more imposing in comics, to the point he was the only Earthling that Thanos kept a constant eye on. Hopefully, the MCU utilizes Doom well.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

Good if true, maybe we'll see "Black Widow" actually doing some spy shit going forward instead of just being a flippybitch.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_widow/black-widow-director-cate-shortland-says-the-movie-will-hand-the-baton-to-florence-pughs-yelena-belova-a176576#gs.9l3pwt

Black Widow is still a long way off, but the hope is that we'll actually be able to watch the Marvel Studios movie on the big screen this November as planned. Right now, COVID-19 cases in the US are going through the roof as attempts are made to kickstart the economy and people protest being told to wear masks in order to slow the spread of the virus.

As a result, we're not sure what the plan is for the Marvel Comics adaptation, but director Cate Shortland has now dropped some big hints about the future of Black Widow in the MCU.

"[Kevin Feige] realised that the audience would expect an origin story so, of course, we went in the opposite direction," the filmmaker tells Empire. "And we didn’t know how great Florence Pugh would be. We knew she would be great, but we didn’t know how great. Scarlett is so gracious, like, ‘Oh, I’m handing her the baton.’ So it’s going to propel another female storyline."

This appears to confirm speculation that the "Black Widow" mantle will pass to Yelena Belova, and while Natasha Romanoff was wearing her vest in Avengers: Infinity War, that could be explained by her mistakenly thinking her "sister" has died (when, in reality, she's been taken into custody by General "Thunderbolt" Ross and recruited to his Thunderbolts team).

That all just speculation, of course, but one thing we do know is that Natasha is getting a proper send-off in Black Widow. "In Endgame, the fans were upset that Natasha did not have a funeral," Shortland says. "Whereas Scarlett, when I spoke to her about it, said Natasha wouldn’t have wanted a funeral."

"She’s too private, and anyway, people don’t really know who she is. So what we did in this film was allow the ending to be the grief the individuals felt, rather than a big public outpouring. I think that’s a fitting ending for her."

Two new trailers were recently classified for Black Widow, so chances are a new look at the movie is coming our way at some point in the next few weeks. Ultimately, it may depend if August's releases now end up being pushed into September, because if that happens, Black Widow could slip into 2021.

 

[Scratch This Nut]

Good if true, maybe we'll see "Black Widow" actually doing some spy shit going forward instead of just being a flippybitch.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_widow/black-widow-director-cate-shortland-says-the-movie-will-hand-the-baton-to-florence-pughs-yelena-belova-a176576#gs.9l3pwt

Of course Florence Pugh would be good. Haven’t any of these people seen Midsommar?

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are what I'm curious about, moving forward, since they were in Fox's and Disney's respective universes.

I was disappointed Dr. Doom had been treated like garbage in Fox's films. He is so much more imposing in comics, to the point he was the only Earthling that Thanos kept a constant eye on. Hopefully, the MCU utilizes Doom well.

Hes just going to end up being Tony's roommate in college who got mad when he nicked his face using a shaver Tony engineered or something.

 

[Stardust]

Hes just going to end up being Tony's roommate in college who got mad when he nicked his face using a shaver Tony engineered or something.

On one hand, that would be dumb. On the other, Doom is vain enough to respond that way.

It's weird for me, having grown up with comics, to see the MCU without the Fantastic Four. They're almost deified in the comics, especially Mr. Fantastic for his intelligence. I wonder if Reed will be given the position of intelligent authority, like in comics, or if he'll be treated second fiddle for not being a MCU original.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

It's weird for me, having grown up with comics, to see the MCU without the Fantastic Four. They're almost deified in the comics, especially Mr. Fantastic for his intelligence. I wonder if Reed will be given the position of intelligent authority, like in comics, or if he'll be treated second fiddle for not being a MCU original.

In the comics Bruce Banner is a nuclear physicist, Reed Richards is an astrophysicist, Tony Stark is an engineer, Peter Parker is a chemist, etc., etc. Nobody has to be "the smart one." They can all be smart within their specialties and consult each when faced with science outside their narrow band of expertise (just like real world scientists).