Marvel Cinematic Universe

[InsolentGaylord]

Right but see this is literally exactly what I said in the first post. What "wokeness" and "IdPol" are you expecting from these new movies? The fact that these big corporations are going to bend the knee to China (especially if we're hit harder by Coronachan than they are/will be in the next wave of the pandemic) is a known fact, and that their Commiebux are going to be worth even more, making American politics (which again there's no indication they're doing) even less appealing.

I will bet you so much money you're not going to see any more "wokeness" going forward than you did in Captain Marvel, unless you're counting them utilizing more darkies. In which case you had no reason to sarcastically reference "YEAH UH SURE SURE THAT'S MY PROBLEM YEAH...".

"What "wokeness" and "IdPol" are you expecting from these new movies?" Why do you need me to specify? They haven't exactly had a good track record when it comes to infecting beloved IPs. Even if many of the OAG types are exceptional jackasses that doesn't mean that wokeness makes entertainment good, usually the opposite. Seems to bring out arrogant jackasses that's for sure. If it's even half as woke as the comics are then sorry, that's just gonna make people think the MCU is "uncool" at that point.

"The fact that these big corporations are going to bend the knee to China (especially if we're hit harder by Coronachan than they are/will be in the next wave of the pandemic) is a known fact, and that their Commiebux are going to be worth even more, making American politics (which again there's no indication they're doing) even less appealing." This is ASSUMING China are not in any way shape or form lying about how bad the pandemic is in their country, which American intelligence has indicated they actually are. And you just outright lied too when you said " making American politics (which again there's no indication they're doing) even less appealing"....No indication despite the rumours about them pushing Captain Marvel as the leader of the Avengers and the She Hulk and Ms. Marvel diversity hires. Or fuck not even Feige himself coming out and saying such things? I get you want to be devil's advocate but don't outright lie lol.

"I will bet you so much money you're not going to see any more "wokeness" going forward than you did in Captain Marvel, unless you're counting them utilizing more darkies. In which case you had no reason to sarcastically reference "YEAH UH SURE SURE THAT'S MY PROBLEM YEAH...". Keep repeating a lie it will eventually come true. And sorry did you just sorta go off the rails at the end when you tried to paint me as a racist because I said Black Panther sucked?

...have you noticed I haven't said much about Falcon and Winter Soldier? Could be because that hasn't shown as many negative signs of sucking as much as most of the other announced properties. And what's up with ""YEAH UH SURE SURE THAT'S MY PROBLEM YEAH..."." Who the fuck talks like this? I'm honestly more bothered by the weird race swapping of characters for frankly unappealing actresses just because they are black, I don't have a problem with black people unlike the way the people running Marvel seem to have a problem with white people.

It's good to know you are still exceptional as always btw.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

when you tried to paint me as a racist because I said Black Panther sucked?

lmfao that never happened. Projection as usual.

And you just outright lied too when you said " making American politics (which again there's no indication they're doing) even less appealing".

And this I'm not even sure what the fuck you thought you said, but given the fact that you rated my post about Chinaman 3 scenes, an objective fact that happened, as "dumb" for some reason, suggests you're just pissed off and will proceed to avoid objective facts to express as such.

"I NEVER SAID THEY WERE GOING TO FILL IT WITH WOKE ALL I SAID WAS ONLY A REETARD WOULD DENY THEY'RE ABOUT TO FILL IT WITH WOKE!"

Ok brah you got me there. I'd bet willing to bet actual money that's not happening, though.

 

[Absolutego]

Lol they literally added scenes in Iron Man 3 where the Chinese helped save Tony for no other reason than to try and appeal to the Chinese more.

Iron Man 3 (2013) #3 "Chinese Version" Deleted, Extended & Alternative Scenes

Iron Man 3 (2013) #3 "Chinese Version" Deleted, Extended & Alternative Scenes Synopsis: When Tony Stark's world is torn apart by a formidable terrorist calle...

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I assumed studios cucking to China was common knowledge at this point.

Well yeah, but this was pre-virus and pre-Disney realizing relying so much on China wasn't the best recipe for returns. Do you really think this current epidemic isn't going to affect Disney strategy at all? The talking heads for the stock market are currently whining about Disney being bought by Apple, even if you think that's bunk that's a new low.

not even getting into the whole political agenda thing, I just think the bedrock assumption that Chinabux are all Hollywood will chase after the last three months seems...optimistic to me.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

Well yeah, but this was pre-virus and pre-Disney realizing relying so much on China wasn't the best recipe for returns. Do you really think this current epidemic isn't going to affect Disney strategy at all? The talking heads for the stock market are currently whining about Disney being bought by Apple, even if you think that's bunk that's a new low.

Yes he does think it's bunk. He also assumes that things are static and NEVER change. I called out anti-sjws for thinking things would stay like this forever too btw.

lmfao that never happened. Projection as usual.

You asked if I was worried about more "darkies" appearing in the movies, and I called you out for insinuating that was a problem for me with your weird Gail Simone esq sarcastic strawman you did of me. You clearly are either purposefully painting me as a liar to make yourself feel more in control of the argument, or you are legitimately stupid.

And this I'm not even sure what the fuck you thought you said, but given the fact that you rated my post about Chinaman 3 scenes, an objective fact that happened, as "dumb" for some reason, suggests you're just pissed off and will proceed to avoid objective facts to express as such.

"I NEVER SAID THEY WERE GOING TO FILL IT WITH WOKE ALL I SAID WAS ONLY A REETARD WOULD DENY THEY'RE ABOUT TO FILL IT WITH WOKE!"

Ok brah you got me there. I'd bet willing to bet actual money that's not happening, though.

Okay you are clearly kinda getting pretty antsy, so I will tell you why I labeled it as dumb. I labeled it as dumb because you were using an example from almost a decade ago, a different period when there wasn't a terrible epidemic destroying the economy of the world, with a superpower known for lying about what goes in it's country especially about a pandemic which they LIKELY lied about how severe it was and for all we know it's possibly infected millions in the country by now. So a tl;dr, It was marked dumb because you were talking as if the Kung Flu isn't going to change the way things are compared to the world from 2013 when Iron Man 3 originally released. 2013 non post Coronavirus world = 2020 post coronavirus world. See the issue here?

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

Well yeah, but this was pre-virus and pre-Disney realizing relying so much on China wasn't the best recipe for returns. Do you really think this current epidemic isn't going to affect Disney strategy at all? The talking heads for the stock market are currently whining about Disney being bought by Apple, even if you think that's bunk that's a new low.

not even getting into the whole political agenda thing, I just think the bedrock assumption that Chinabux are all Hollywood will chase after the last three months seems...optimistic to me.

We'll see what happens, I guess. I have a pretty good feeling on what will probably go down, though.

Okay you are clearly kinda getting pretty antsy, so I will tell you why I labeled it as dumb. I labeled it as dumb because you were using an example from almost a decade ago, a different period when there wasn't a terrible epidemic destroying the economy of the world, with a superpower known for lying about what goes in it's country especially about a pandemic which they LIKELY lied about how severe it was and for all we know it's possibly infected millions in the country by now. So a tl;dr, It was marked dumb because you were talking as if the Kung Flu isn't going to change the way things are compared to the world from 2013 when Iron Man 3 originally released. 2013 non post Coronavirus world = 2020 post coronavirus world. See the issue here?

I look forward to being properly humiliated in a few months when China is on the verge of complete economic collapse and their box office will not be sought after as a huge source of income. Which is the more likely event for sure.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

We'll see what happens, I guess. I have a pretty good feeling on what will probably go down, though.

You a stockholder?

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

You a stockholder?

Yes, hence my constantly shilling of Disney. I got a lot riding on this!

 

[InsolentGaylord]

We'll see what happens, I guess. I have a pretty good feeling on what will probably go down, though.



I look forward to being properly humiliated in a few months when China is on the verge of complete economic collapse and their box office will not be sought after as a huge source of income. Which is the more likely event for sure.

The issue here is you are so arrogant to assume things will continue the way things were in the past. I don't fucking know what's really gonna happen, I'm not the one getting all passive aggressive about the possibility China may not factor into their decision making so much in the past. No offense but you are getting pretty exceptional right now, I can tell from the way you are typing it's giving me Gail Simone post BoP meltdown vibes.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

The issue here is you are so arrogant to assume things will continue the way things were in the past. I don't fucking know what's really gonna happen, I'm not the one getting all passive aggressive about the possibility China may not factor into their decision making so much in the past. No offense but you are getting pretty exceptional right now, I can tell from the way you are typing it's giving me Gail Simone post BoP meltdown vibes.

I mean but see thing is you're like the kind of people saying "Holy jesus fuck, will this be the death of movie theaters?! Will all blockbusters go straight to VOD now?!" and then getting uppity when someone says "Well probably not" and then breakdowns the cost/returns of how business used to operate six months ago vs the projection of the health issues now. Yeah, the entire film industry as we know it could completely collapse upon itself, but what's the likelihood of that happening?

Your tactic of shifting it to my "meltdown" is particularly charming, since me going Full Simone was pointing out that; a) this almost certainly isn't going to kill (((woke culture))) and b) there's barely any of that in these movies to begin with, with few to no signs of them making a huge shift towards it in the first place.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

I mean but see thing is you're like the kind of people saying "Holy jesus fuck, will this be the death of movie theaters?! Will all blockbusters go straight to VOD now?!" and then getting uppity when someone says "Well probably not" and then breakdowns the cost/returns of how business used to operate six months ago vs the projection of the health issues now. Yeah, the entire film industry as we know it could completely collapse upon itself, but what's the likelihood of that happening?

Your tactic of shifting it to my "meltdown" is particularly charming, since me going Full Simone was pointing out that; a) this almost certainly isn't going to kill (((woke culture))) and b) there's barely any of that in these movies to begin with, with few to no signs of them making a huge shift towards it in the first place.

Okay more framing me as the bad guy.

Also you are not one to accuse me of flipping out when I was fairly casually saying "Things may not be the same and they may not be able to be as complacent anymore due to financial damages", and you react like a raging fanboy because me and Absolutego didn't agree with your flawed and outdated arguments (like the Iron Man 3 china release not being a relevant argument since I don't recall a disease causing lockdowns back in 2013 unless you come from a different universe ala Mandela Effect).

"a) this almost certainly isn't going to kill (((woke culture))) " I don't know either, I was just saying it may lead to it becoming less popular more than it already is. Chill out (and what's with the three brackets? Anti Semitic much?). And of course the blatant lie "b) there's barely any of that in these movies to begin with, with few to no signs of them making a huge shift towards it in the first place. " Up till recently yes.

Kevin Feige Explains Marvel's Diversity Push

With Shang-Chi and The Eternals about to enter the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Kevin Feige is sharing how he hopes viewers will respond to seeing these new characters onscreen.

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‘Avengers: Endgame’: Normalizing Diversity Will Be Marvel’s Focus as It Looks to Future

The studio is recognizing that fans of its movies are extremely diverse and are now more vocal than ever with demands to be properly represented and spoken to.

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So you were saying?

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

Okay more framing me as the bad guy.

Also you are not one to accuse me of flipping out when I was fairly casually saying "Things may not be the same and they may not be able to be as complacent anymore due to financial damages", and you react like a raging fanboy because me and Absolutego didn't agree with your flawed and outdated arguments (like the Iron Man 3 china release not being a relevant argument since I don't recall a disease causing lockdowns back in 2013 unless you come from a different universe ala Mandela Effect).

"a) this almost certainly isn't going to kill (((woke culture))) " I don't know either, I was just saying it may lead to it becoming less popular more than it already is. Chill out (and what's with the three brackets? Anti Semitic much?). And of course the blatant lie "b) there's barely any of that in these movies to begin with, with few to no signs of them making a huge shift towards it in the first place. " Up till recently yes.

Kevin Feige Explains Marvel's Diversity Push

With Shang-Chi and The Eternals about to enter the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Kevin Feige is sharing how he hopes viewers will respond to seeing these new characters onscreen.

www.superherohype.com

‘Avengers: Endgame’: Normalizing Diversity Will Be Marvel’s Focus as It Looks to Future

The studio is recognizing that fans of its movies are extremely diverse and are now more vocal than ever with demands to be properly represented and spoken to.

www.indiewire.com

So you were saying?

I was saying they would clearly stick to their formula while adding some darkies. You have linked me two articles where they explain they are adding non-white characters. Non-white characters does not "wokeness" make. The Eternals will almost certainly not be a massive shift in how these movies are made. Shang-Chi will follow the same formula the other movies did, but with a Chinese man. That Ms Marvel show is lmost definitely just going to be a live action version of all of those cartoons they have featuring that character.

See, again you've presented me things that are supposed to be evidence that impending Woke will result in inevitable Broke, but all of the evidence is more or less "minorities".

Look at Back Widow ffs, if they were going to experiment on anything, why not take a wild chance at a character who is pretty much already done and whose bombing wouldn't effect going forward? And what have we seen so far? Formulaic Marvel.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

I was saying they would clearly stick to their formula while adding some darkies. You have linked me two articles where they explain they are adding non-white characters. Non-white characters does not "wokeness" make. The Eternals will almost certainly not be a massive shift in how these movies are made. Shang-Chi will follow the same formula the other movies did, but with a Chinese man. That Ms Marvel show is lmost definitely just going to be a live action version of all of those cartoons they have featuring that character.

See, again you've presented me things that are supposed to be evidence that impending Woke will result in inevitable Broke, but all of the evidence is more or less "minorities".

Look at Back Widow ffs, if they were going to experiment on anything, why not take a wild chance at a character who is pretty much already done and whose bombing wouldn't effect going forward? And what have we seen so far? Formulaic Marvel.

Are you still at this?
You know when they gloat about it they do it in order to virtue signal to the blue checkmarks on twitter right? And of course, you still seem to be rather angry at me for saying these things, specifically. Either you are trying to bait me (which someone suggested) specifically, because I don't see this attitude towards other people on here for the most part from you, or you are legitimately upset that you think I'm trying to say "fuck darkies" when I'm saying "I don't want political ideologies like this in stories because they tend to suck ass, and political correctness is boring and pushed by disgustingly corrupt assholes".

I gave you links and of course "Nah it's not evidence, doesn't count". Guess you really are just a mindless fanboy after all.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

Are you still at this?
You know when they gloat about it they do it in order to virtue signal to the blue checkmarks on twitter right? And of course, you still seem to be rather angry at me for saying these things, specifically. Either you are trying to bait me (which someone suggested) specifically, because I don't see this attitude towards other people on here for the most part from you, or you are legitimately upset that you think I'm trying to say "fuck darkies" when I'm saying "I don't want political ideologies like this in stories because they tend to suck ass, and political correctness is boring and pushed by disgustingly corrupt assholes".

I gave you links and of course "Nah it's not evidence, doesn't count". Guess you really are just a mindless fanboy after all.

*stockholding shill, get it right!

 

[InsolentGaylord]

*stockholding shill, get it right!

You out of ammo already?

How about Histronic fanboy instead? Or redditor?

 

[Someone in a Tree]

Disney has announced some new dates. Black Widow has been moved to November. The Eternals to February, Shang-Chi to May 2021, Doctor Strange 2 to Nov 2021, Thor 4 to Feb 2022, and Captain Marvel 2 has been announced for July 2022.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Disney has announced some new dates. Black Widow has been moved to November. The Eternals to February, Shang-Chi to May 2021, Doctor Strange 2 to Nov 2021, Thor 4 to Feb 2022, and Captain Marvel 2 has been announced for July 2022.

I’m not surprised by this. This will be the first year since 2012 that had only one MCU movie.

It’s going to affect the production of not those Marvel movies, but also maybe some other Disney movies as well.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

My film will do well in November. Thor Ragnarok did well with that release date

 

[InsolentGaylord]

My film will do well in November. Thor Ragnarok did well with that release date

If this situation is under control that is.

 

[Someone in a Tree]

It should be noted that Disney also moves Mulan to late July, which still seems very optimistic, and Pixar’s Soul is still set for June.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

https://twitter.com/MCU_Direct/status/1247196737460199425

Whoops. Better hope that gap is worth it (and maybe they should fire some of the writers if they want to make guaranteed money they are GONNA NEED IT after this crisis is over).

Inb4 "But they will be just fine, what do you mean it's not 2019 anymore? The Corona Virus? What's that?"