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I'm sick of Gwen Stacy lol. Things need to be shaken up with Peter's love interests on film ... Introduce a chick who prefers Spider-Man to Peter.
That pretty much is Black Cat. Now that I think about it, this makes me think of 2nd Burton Batman movie with Catwoman or how Batman in Batman the Animated Series mentioned how Selina Kyle wasn't interested in Bruce Wayne but in Batman.
 
You know, the more I think about it, the more I being to suspect the reason Gwen Stacy or Felica Hardy are not in the movie is that they want to make them the love interest for Miles Morales, and you can bet they'll make both pretty blondes.
Gwen's already been retroactively cast into the role of Miles' love interest via Spider-Gwen. With Felicia it's either being Miles' latest fucktoy or getting the Poison Ivy treatment (AKA she's turned into a full-on lesbian).
There were rumors about Anya Taylor Joy being the next Black Cat, since the last Spider-Man film, I think Marvel just dropped that idea altogether.
Still a pretty awful choice. Fucking amazing that Felicity Jones is still somehow the best casting out of the entire lineup that we've gotten.
 
Gwen's already been retroactively cast into the role of Miles' love interest via Spider-Gwen. With Felicia it's either being Miles' latest fucktoy or getting the Poison Ivy treatment (AKA she's turned into a full-on lesbian).
I know about comic Gwen.

I was talking about the MCU counterpart, which I believe still hasn't been introduced yet.
 
Geez, you guys are harsh. I thought it was pretty good. It is basically No Way Home Part 2. If you didn't see No Way Home, you lose a lot. It's also very odd how much it ignores the rest of MCU Spideys stories and any Avengers stuff is kept to a minimum. Someone mentioned here there was no forward progress. I'd argue that's not true. There's just very slow progress.

Let's start with the big one- what did I think about Jean Grey? Very little. Did they ruin her? No more than Marvel comics, Sophie Turner, Doomsday leaks and Last Stand already have. Who and what she is gets very downplayed. Honestly you could replace her with any generic psychic powered villain/hero. Yeah, it's setup for later but the movie does a good job of making it focused on this movie only. It's very much a prequel to the character. I'm fine with her being Talk No Jutsud though, because at least it's built up. However, there is ONE instance where they probably should've cut where Spider-Man goes "You're not a killer!", except earlier in the movie before her reveal, she possesses some guy and put him in front of a moving car have him get turned into a road pizza. Probably should've cut that lol.

As far as MJ goes, she's not nearly as bad in this one. Largely because the script actually gives her real material to work with. She does a decent enough job and is far less insufferable. What is insufferable though is the way everyone else treats her and how everyone is up her butt. That I didn't care for and found very odd. While the movie does put her back into the fold, it also holds back enough and leaves the door open to move on from her as the love interest, if they choose to do so. Which is something I'd appreciate because Zendaya 's big speech in this is a pretty good exit for the character to take on a more friend role. I'm personally glad they left it open ended and it feels more in line with the rest of the movie of things changing. If this is the end for Zendaya MJ, good riddance and she'd end on a good note.

As far as Peter's mutation thing going on, I like this far better than any of the other incarnations we got of this. I'm not going to pretend like the Man-Spider/Peter Cocoon storyline was ever good in any iteration. It was always a very stupid idea and I don't think it was done well in any form of media. At least this feels a lot more justifiable given everything this Peter has been through.

The action is also really darn good and while no villains get any real consequence or significance, the fight scenes are pretty good.

I don't know what else to say, calling it No Way Home Part 2 mixed with the Insomniac games is probably the best idea I can give you of what this movie is like.
 
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What I want to know is why this version of Peter cares so much about this version of Mary Jane. It's not like in the comics or Raimi films where they got to know each other for years after high school. They dated for a year at most before Strange wiped her memory, yet Peter treats this like the worst part of what happened during No Way Home. Not losing his best friend, his aunt, or the promising future he had as an Avenger, just Mary Jane.

I can't believe I'm going to say it, but even One More Day understood why erasing Peter and Mary Jane's marriage was so impactful. They had been together for years in-universe, and the developing love was why Mephisto was so interested. Here, it's a high school romance that Brand New Day wants you to see as important solely because it's one of the most well-known pairings in Marvel history.
 
They dated for a year at most before Strange wiped her memory, yet Peter treats this like the worst part of what happened during No Way Home. Not losing his best friend, his aunt, or the promising future he had as an Avenger, just Mary Jane.
I don't agree. I mean, look at what happens in the movie.

He visits Aunt May's grave every chance he gets and leaves flowers there.
He constantly has flashbacks of May.
He stalks Ned on social media CONSTANTLY. He's quite literally Ned's stalker. MJ wasn't in all of those shorts/reels.
Heck the movie even kicks off BECAUSE he stalks Ned.

He clearly misses everyone. He's hung up on MJ because he had the chance to tell her and didn't take it. That seems to eat at him even more, especially later on in the movie when the truth DOES come out.


Okay, then it doesn't sound like something I would enjoy.
That's up to you, but I don't really think any reviews do it justice. I went in expecting not a lot and came out happy.
 
Saw it on Wednesday, it's one of the most non-movies I have seen. There is not really a plot;
THE FUCKING PAYOFF IS A FUCKING LABEL ON AN AIR CONDITIONER.
The dialogue in this film is garbage; no one talks like a fucking real person. There is a scene where they almost shot-for-shot replicate Sadie Sink running in Stranger Things.

The fact that they did not have a definitive edit 2 weeks before release shows. The film is a mess pacing-wise; Punisher is the only benefit in this film. I did not hate Yelena either because she is the hottest person in this film.

The acting in this movie is a stretch, too; Tom Holland coasted through it, and it felt like he did not want to be there.
 
Saw it on Wednesday, it's one of the most non-movies I have seen. There is not really a plot
Well, there is a plot. It's just most of the plot is in No Way Home and if you didn't see that well..."go watch our other shit" - Disney.

Funny part about Yelena. I thought she was supposed to be Silver Sable until about 1/2 through the movie when she said her name. I completely forgot Nu Black Widow even fucking existed until that very moment.

I'm also convinced Florence Pugh just didn't want show up on set because it was her spa day so she made Destin Daniel Cretton bring the movie to her or she wasn't going to be in it. She quite literally phones and Zoom calls her scenes in the movie. She definitely never shared a scene with actual Tom Holland. She filmed all her scenes in like 2 hours before returning to her spa day. I'm also convinced the tealish water wasn't an effect to hide her naked body and that the pool was just normally like that because that's just what Russian Banyas are like.
 
I have a question about the new movie. Do they explain how the memory-wipe thing works with recorded media, bureaucracy, and everything else that would complicate things? Like does MJ just wonder why she has pics of some random guy on her phone or do the pics disappear or is she just unable to think about who he is and why there are pics?
 
Why not just use magic to reverse time and bring hot aunt May back? Why can Dr. House erase the universe's collective memories but can't bring some hot babe back like twenty minutes after she died?

Also, lol on the X-Men being introduced into the MCU via a gay Deadpool movie and Baby Spider 4. Make sure and do your homework before Doomsday kids; that'll be $29,99 plus tax.
 
Why not just use magic to reverse time and bring hot aunt May back? Why can Dr. House erase the universe's collective memories but can't bring some hot babe back like twenty minutes after she died?
Reminds me of how HISHE pointed out that Strange could have easily used the discarded Infinity Gauntlet to reverse Tony's death.
 
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