Man-Hate/Woman-Hate thread negotiation zone - Make love, not war.

[Zionazi]

Too many recursive tags in post.

 

[Althalus]

I didn't read this thread, but I'm going to assume no points were made.
I'd like to see an itemization of the contentions between the two sides by EoD, thanks

Quick summary based on my own impressions. Not necessarily my opinion, just my impression of others' opinions.

Women's contentions:

-Men don't respect boundaries
-Men are violent/rapey
-Too many men have pedo tendecies
-Not enough men speak out about other men being violent/rapey
-Men have weird porn addictions
-Men don't listen to women in general, leading to stuff like women not getting as good medical care
-Men are often condescending towards women, talking down to them and not taking them seriously.
-Men push beauty standards for women that are psychologically and/or physically damaging.

Men's contentions

-Women's definition of "boundaries" is highly subjective and is mostly based on how she feels about the attractiveness of the man pushing said boundaries
-Women will weaponize false accusations of physical/sex assault for personal benefit
-Women will marry with the intent of divorcing and taking a man's house/savings for her personal benefit.
-Women will shame men for watching porn while openly reading "romance novels" that are literally written pornos.
-Women teachers treat boys as inferior girls because they don't want to sit still, encouraging parents to put boys on mind-altering drugs to make them "easier" to manage.
-Society assumes women are "safe around kids" so women abusers will hide behind their gender to get away with abuse, sometimes with help from other women.

This is not exhaustive for either side, but I think that's the gist of it.

 

[melty]

I used to be quite a man hater, but after after a long time engaging with manosphere content, I think they have some good points and I can see their perspective. So I think I understand both sides pretty well and they both have good points and flaws.
I don't really know how to get other people to become like me, though. I think it was mostly from realizing "huh, they're kinda right about that" through experience and letting go of the idea that I need to defend "my side" at all costs.

Here's some stuff I think the man haters get right:
- men commit most crimes
- men are more likely to be violent and sexually deviant
- men will do seemingly anything to get laid and therefore are hard to trust

Here's some of what I think the misogynists get right:
- women are often stupid and mentally ill
- women are never happy and move goalposts
- women don't understand their own dating preferences and give bad advice

There's much, much more that could be said, maybe I'll write it up some day if the thread becomes more serious.

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

I doubt this will work, specifically because women are never satisfied or happy with anything.

The reverse is true. The woman haters are constantly seething exactly because women are often perfectly happy and content without them. They can live carefree lives with their cats and Stanley cups and with other women.

 

[Azure05]

Both man hate thread and woman hate thread users are absolutely BVILT 4 BBC