💰 Grifter "Mad at the Internet" - a/k/a My Psychotherapy Sessions

[JoshPlz]

I finished that video.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gQNIhiwefmo

Searching for the pride parade video on youtube reveals even more horrifying details that absolutely no one asked for:

Apparently it's this abomination:


What is this degenerate bullshit? Beavers that have tits and cut them off, to then display the scars to children naked?
Did they hide a festering stinkditch on one of the animals too?

Troons are thrilled.

 

[Null]

If you have a dedicated line, that's not for one stream, though. Unless you're streaming 24/7, you won't need that bandwidth all the time. If you were using that bandwidth all the time, you'd be several streamers splitting the cost.

YES, IDEALLY YOU WOULD MAXIMIZE THE USAGE OF YOUR BANDWIDTH BY HAVING OTHER STREAMERS

holy shit dude you are "UHM, AKSHULLY" incarnate. Do you even use this site except to argue bullshit like this with me?

 

[Aquinas]

YES, IDEALLY YOU WOULD MAXIMIZE THE USAGE OF YOUR BANDWIDTH BY HAVING OTHER STREAMERS

holy shit dude you are "UHM, AKSHULLY" incarnate. Do you even use this site except to argue bullshit like this with me?

I dont know about him, but i use this site almost solely to weakly insult 'people'
Fun fact: The average Kiwi has the intellegence of a fruit

 

[hundredpercent]

YES, IDEALLY YOU WOULD MAXIMIZE THE USAGE OF YOUR BANDWIDTH BY HAVING OTHER STREAMERS

holy shit dude you are "UHM, AKSHULLY" incarnate. Do you even use this site except to argue bullshit like this with me?

Huh? You come up with numbers about why it would be very expensive to run a streaming service using a DEDICATED LINE. I'm saying this is not needed, unless you get to the point where you have like 100 large streamers on your platform, which is more than DLive/Bitwave ever got to, correct me if I'm wrong.

If you didn't use a dedicated line, you could do it for much cheaper. That's all. Read my entire post.

 

[Null]

Huh? You come up with numbers about why it would be very expensive to run a streaming service using a DEDICATED LINE. I'm saying this is not needed, unless you get to the point where you have like 100 large streamers on your platform, which is more than DLive/Bitwave ever got to, correct me if I'm wrong.

If you didn't use a dedicated line, you could do it for much cheaper. That's all. Read my entire post.

If you leased 100Gbps you'd still need all the equipment to handle it and it would still be thousands of dollars a month. If you accidentally used too much bandwidth, you'd pay more, because the cost per gigabit is pretty fucking high.

Like who the fuck are you dude

 

[hundredpercent]

If you leased 100Gbps you'd still need all the equipment to handle it and it would still be thousands of dollars a month. If you accidentally used too much bandwidth, you'd pay more, because the cost per gigabit is pretty fucking high.

Like who the fuck are you dude

If you're renting it in chunks of individual 10 GBit VPSes, I don't see what extra equipment you'd need. Serving the same static file to 2000 users is a solved problem with nginx. Are you saying the CPU would max out, just from doing IO? I'm pretty sure nginx uses zerocopy networking, so it can just have the kernel stream directly from RAM to network card via DMA.

If you run out of traffic, you can just provision a new VPS for the rest of the month and get 10-20TB more as needed, then turn off the old ones as they max our. Or buy more bandwidth at $1-2/TB, if your provider supports that.

Anyway, using dedicated lines for this example is the most stupid thing you could do, because it's very unlikely that you would use anywhere near 100% of them consistently.

 

[Null]

individual 10 GBit VPSes

There are no VPSs here. You cannot rent a VPS. You get a complaint, it's gone. Rent the cabinet. Buy the router. Own the IP. Own the hardware. Nothing short of this lets you say "nigger tranny faggot" in 2021. Do you get it? If I could host this fucking site on a VPS I'd have like a $100/mo cluster on Linode and AWS. But I can't.

My point is that this is expensive. Mastercard / Visa will not let you make money. It is prohibitively expensive.

Your pedantry is not useful and not productive.

 

[Disheveled Human]

It would be cheaper to bribe a company to host "Toxic" shit then to rig up a streaming site.

 

[hundredpercent]

There are no VPSs here. You cannot rent a VPS. You get a complaint, it's gone. Rent the cabinet. Buy the router. Own the IP. Own the hardware. Nothing short of this lets you say "nigger tranny faggot" in 2021. Do you get it? If I could host this fucking site on a VPS I'd have like a $100/mo cluster on Linode and AWS. But I can't.

My point is that this is expensive. Mastercard / Visa will not let you make money. It is prohibitively expensive.

Your pedantry is not useful and not productive.

Dude, DLive and Bitwave both hosted on normal hosting. There's a difference between Daily Stormer levels of censorship and normal hypersensitive abuse policies. I don't recall anyone being taken down from cockbox for saying the gamer word. 8Chan hosts at VDSina.

Your hosting situation is unique, because you need to host in North America because you need low latency because of the databases. This is not the case for all websites. A streaming site, in particular, could get away with having robust hosting for the web frontend, and then having disposable CDN servers for the video itself.

Also, you still don't need a dedicated link. There's colo services where you bring your own IP that gives you limited bandwidth. Cockbox.org doesn't even have their own RIPE registration!

 

[Null]

Dude, DLive and Bitwave both hosted on normal hosting.

Dlive is a legitimate company with financial backing from Asia.
Bitwave is insignificant and has minimum complaint volume compared to this website.

Are you Xander? That is the only person I can imagine who is so personally invested in proving me wrong while knowing absolutely nothing.

 

[hundredpercent]

It would be cheaper to bribe a company to host "Toxic" shit then to rig up a streaming site.

I mean, you could just get one of those hosting providers that do illegal soccer streams. Most of the bulletproof providers have an offering for this.

Dlive is a legitimate company with financial backing from Asia.
Bitwave is insignificant and has minimum complaint volume compared to this website.

Still hosts the gamer word.
Considering you still have access to CloudFlare, why not just use their CDN services?

Are you Xander? That is the only person I can imagine who is so personally invested in proving me wrong while knowing absolutely nothing.

No.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Bitwave is insignificant

That fucking site cant process shit its like a 1/6th chance the stream runs smooth. How can anyone complain when they get no video feed.

 

[waffle]

If you have a dedicated line, that's not for one stream, though. Unless you're streaming 24/7, you won't need that bandwidth all the time. If you were using that bandwidth all the time, you'd be several streamers splitting the cost.

For some more realistic numbers, let's say you get a VPS with 12TB bandwidth. This would last you 5600 stream-hours at 5Mbps. For 25k viewers and two streams a week, you'd need 25*2/5.6 = 8.9 such VPSes.

A VPS with 12TB traffic costs $11/mo at ServerAstra, a VPS with 20 TB traffic costs $3/mo at Hetzner, and CDN networks are even cheaper. Assuming the more expensive one (smaller hosting provider, accepts bitcoin, not hypersensitive to abuse notices), the costs would come to $134/month.

This is outside the reach of a hobbyist streamer, but it's an order of magnitude cheaper than buying a dedicated line, which is the most expensive possible way of doing it unless you intend to be streaming 24/7.

I asked the man a serious question about starting a real streaming service that could be a viable Business and he gave me numbers that reflect that. Having some remote vps on a shared connection won't do shit for that. Your shit has to run smoothly and reliably or nobody would use it.

You might be able to run the nightly wignat power hour on that, but I wanna get Susan's cut of the superberries for everyone who got kicked off the internet for thinking the nigger word too loudly.

 

[Null]

I mean, you could just get one of those hosting providers that do illegal soccer streams. Most of the bulletproof providers have an offering for this.

That's Russia. Just because they allow copyright infringement, does not mean they allow Ho Ho Holocausts.

Still hosts the gamer word.

You can host anywhere you want if nobody cares about you. Bitwave is insignificant and nobody bothers to complain. It's a designated shitting street.

Dlive doesn't allow much these days, so who cares.

Considering you still have access to CloudFlare, why not just use their CDN services?

We do. I don't think I could have stretched our line as far as I have without leveraging Cloudflare's edge caching.



It's not as useful with videos. Cloudflare does offer streaming CDN, but it's expensive. 25,000 people watching a 2 hour long livestream is 3 million minutes or $3,000 for that one video.



They also don't do livestreaming which is the entire fucking point homie.

You're really fucking annoying and I'm going to ask you don't talk to me unless there's actually a problem. You're not helping and you don't know as much as you think.

 

[Disheveled Human]

I remember hearing from twitch staffers (around the time ninja left mixer) and people were speculating on them starting a new streaming website. The gist of it was Millions are a joke and not even near enough to get a proper site up and running.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

A way to monetize your videos when demonitzed is to make music, register that music with youtube and copyright, post that music on to youtube under a legitimate youtube music channel, use that music on your livestreams, then: profit. Youtube always catches copyrighted music so 100% of the advertiser profits go to the music company. They even re-monetize unmonetized videos for it. If you own that music company then the video gets re-monetized and the money goes to you even if you're demonitzed.

Idk how effective that would be to make money considering that few people watch your streams after they're posted and the main source of revenue were the superchats

 

[Null]

A way to monetize your videos when demonitzed is to make music, register that music with youtube and copyright, post that music on to youtube under a legitimate youtube music channel, use that music on your livestreams, then: profit. Youtube always catches copyrighted music so 100% of the advertiser profits go to the music company. They even re-monetize unmonetized videos for it. If you own that music company then the video gets re-monetized and the money goes to you even if you're demonitzed.

Idk how effective that would be to make money considering that few people watch your streams after they're posted and the main source of revenue were the superchats

It's an interesting idea. I'll ferret that away somewhere.

Also, I'm tempted to replace my mic. My audio quality always annoys me but I guess that's just how I sound lmfao. I'm not sure how to improve my mic presence. I feel like I don't speak from the chest enough, I breathe into the mic too much, and there's often echo in my room.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

It's an interesting idea. I'll ferret that away somewhere.

Also, I'm tempted to replace my mic. My audio quality always annoys me but I guess that's just how I sound lmfao. I'm not sure how to improve my mic presence. I feel like I don't speak from the chest enough, I breathe into the mic too much, and there's often echo in my room.

Breathing exercises meant for singers might help that

 

[Flustercuck]

That's Russia. Just because they allow copyright infringement, does not mean they allow Ho Ho Holocausts.

what about the Ho Ho Holodomor. do they allow that?

 

[DumbDude42]

A way to monetize your videos when demonitzed is to make music, register that music with youtube and copyright, post that music on to youtube under a legitimate youtube music channel, use that music on your livestreams, then: profit. Youtube always catches copyrighted music so 100% of the advertiser profits go to the music company. They even re-monetize unmonetized videos for it. If you own that music company then the video gets re-monetized and the money goes to you even if you're demonitzed.

Idk how effective that would be to make money considering that few people watch your streams after they're posted and the main source of revenue were the superchats

once they find out the music company is essentially a shell company run by an undesirable, they'll drop and blacklist it just like they do with regular channels