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Luigi Mangione Discussion Thread - Discuss, dissect and laugh at America's most handsome criminal and the mass hybristophilia he's inspired.
Read the original thread about the shooting on this very site and tell me that support for him wasn’t bipartisan before culture war retards saw people actually resisting and ruined it. I don’t get why so many people ITT are acting like being a literal corporate shill is “based”.
I give a fuck when the radicalized left creates a climate in which vigilante assassinations of people you are mad at, for legitimate or not so legitimate reasons, becomes an accepted form of "resistance".
The support for this guy has come primarily from the left.
From the same people who talk about assassinating Trump and who cheered when Charlie Kirk was killed.
Well , I didn't think luigi would ever admit that he did it. I thought he would fight this, I know technically he didn't admit it.But in a way he did you know what I mean. He definitely had a chance of being found not guilty in my opinion without the EDD . Because he's in New York City and most people hate healthcare insurance companies. So I feel like there would have been a jury that would have found him not guilty. Oh I had a feeling he did it, but I still feel like he could have fought it because no one saw him do it and because we couldn't see his face on camera. So to me, it wasn't a slam dunk case.
Once the notebook was confirmed in, he was cooked. He documented everything in there. Mitigating his sentence is the only way now. Betting on jury nullification would be foolish.
There's something about this that just doesn't make sense to me. I swear when this first happened, there was something about some financial or bureaucratic drama in the company and Brian was about to expose/leak/sue/whatever something and as luck would have it, the Weeg goes ghosthunting. I can't shake the feeling that he wasn't working alone. How is it possible that everything was planned perfectly, except for the get away play. I understand that that's the hardest part but still. Maybe he wasn't a pansy. Maybe the assassination was perfectly by him right up until Brian hit the pavement and after that was most improv. Maybe I can't understand the depths of pure retardation and an overly inflated ego.
People who will not be on the jury >anyone with unnaturally colored hair
>women under 30, especially if they are Asian
>any man with a hint of a gay lisp
>Italians
>anyone older than 70, because they're likely to have a grievance or two aganist the healthcare industry
>anyone who looks too blue collar, because they're also likely to have a grievance or two aganist the healthcare industry
>wealthy college boys (gooble gobble one of us)
>Dominicans, Puerto Ricans and the sort (gooble gobble kind of one of us) Who does this leave? Church ladies? Hasidic Jews? Stiff upper lip old money Republican men who hate their sons?
This is a YouGov poll from Dec 2024, when the hype would have been at its highest. He loses heavily with both genders, any income level, and with people over 45, even back then.
Anyone even remotely connected in any tangential way to patient care (we fucking hate the health insurance companies as much or more than the patients)
I think most people still feel that murder is wrong even if they also hate insurance. If he had any history of activism or sob stories of denials/lost loved ones that led to this, maybe. He didn't even have UHC as his provider, juries will find it hard to sympathize. From all we know now, it appears he's a standard failmale bitter over his dick and back problems, but he was able to set himself apart by being shrewd enough to point his chimpout in a favorable direction.
He's already had a lot of charges taken off the table and he should consider himself fortunate for that much.
. I swear when this first happened, there was something about some financial or bureaucratic drama in the company and Brian was about to expose/leak/sue/whatever something and as luck would have it,
Styxhexenhsmmer666, despite the fact that he has been going through a trainwreck becoming s lolcoe dealing with a bunch of scorned Exes and dying from alcohol induced liver failure made an interesting video regarding this.
He suspected it was a sort of hitjob gone wrong, and Luigi was told he was gonna be able to get away with it which explains why he was careless with his opsec.
He speculated that we wouldn't know until more info about this gets leaked in 20 years while Luigi is locked in prison. Said it could even end in him getting suicided Epstein style before he spills anything.
I give a fuck when the radicalized left creates a climate in which vigilante assassinations of people you are mad at, for legitimate or not so legitimate reasons, becomes an accepted form of "resistance".
Still hoping for him to get only a slap on the wrist over it to somehow get away with it. The thing people need to realize is that Luigi isn't the problem, he is a symptom of the problem. Vigilantism like this never occurs in a vaccum. I think I said that when this first happened: the wider public has been totally locked out of having any influence or say in the shitshow of healthcare in the USA for decades at this point so it is just natural drastic measures would end up been taken.
My thoughts are similar, when these companies have a state-granted charter to commit fraud with absolute impunity and people are legally required to pay into the scam, no shit somebody kills someone who they think is robbing them. Greedy retarded kikes have been undermining all credibility of and faith in institutions for a buck and this is the ultimate result. Things will only get worse by the way, because the bloodsucking skeksis in charge are incapable of admitting fault or self reflection of any kind.
That and his broke dick. Not being able to enjoy sex or realistically have a family probably had him convinced that chimping out was the way to go. If only he hadn't slipped on that piece of paper in Hawaii, Brian Thompson would still be alive
Sealing is necessary to protect Mangione's right to a fair trial in both the state and companion federal case, given massive pretrial publicity (including an upcoming Dateline special).
EED notice has risks: pursuing this defense amounts to a public admission of the killing, so premature disclosure before the defense commits to it would be prejudicial.
Testing delays are legitimate, not intentional — Mangione is in federal custody, requiring a federal court order just to access him, plus Bureau of Prisons logistics.
Medical records span multiple states, and some doctors have refused to cooperate due to the case's notoriety, requiring interstate subpoena litigation.
The defense cannot name an expert yet because testing isn't complete and the expert who advises on testing may differ from the one who testifies at trial.
Shared discovery between state and federal prosecutors raises concerns about confidential medical records reaching federal authorities who have no right to them.
Prosecution Arguments (Joel Seidemann)
No legal basis for sealing — in 41 years he has never seen a 250.10 notice sealed, and there is no statutory or case law authority for it.
The defense has used shifting justifications — first the death penalty, now pretrial publicity — to keep proceedings sealed.
The defense slept on their rights for 18 months and is now using incomplete preparation as a delay tactic.
The timeline is not unusual — NYC murder cases average 23 months from indictment to trial; Mangione's will go at 20 months.
The real goal is to "jeopardy out" the state case by running out the clock so the federal case goes first, potentially triggering double jeopardy on the murder charges — something Friedman Agnifilo allegedly admitted openly in a prior court appearance.
The 250.10 notice as filed is defective — it lacks sufficient detail about the specific mental disease or defect and how it relates to the EED claim.
The prosecution is ready for September 8th and has already been gathering records and retained their own expert.
Defense is "playing hide the ball" with medical records they already possess that should have been disclosed.
Juror safety is also a concern — he flagged internet activity and people setting up tables outside the courthouse to approach prospective jurors (referring to the Mangionistas Abril Rios, Lena Weissbrot, and Ashley Rojas) and asked the court to consider an anonymous jury.
Court's Rulings
Trial stays on September 8th.
Sealing remains in effect for ten business days, after which the defense must indicate whether they are withdrawing the EED notice.
Defense must turn over medical records and expert CV within that window.
Medical records cannot be shared by the prosecution with federal authorities.
For posterity's sake, I'm posting the entirety of the June 3rd transcript in image format here.
The AI summary is accurate, but here are some brief, harried notes I took while reading this:
Carro: Defense must turn over expert testimony and CV
KFA: Requests sealing as testing isn't complete. Still undecided on EED.
Carro: Psychiatric mitigation is the only viable option, had to have been planned.
KFA: "In the works since the beginning". Filed notice on September 30th, EED = admitted to the crime. EED is prejudicial. Testing still in the works as of June 3rd. Testing logistically hard. Must obtain records from NY, Maryland, and others (likely Hawaii, California, PA, etc.). Some doctors aren't co-operating. Need more time, not intentially delying. Is in contact with experts, but they're not necessarily knowledgable about criminal responsibility. State case is going forward to prevent double jeopardy. State hasn't tested Luigi yet.
Carro: Suggests transferring Luigi to Rikers.
KFA: Wants that as well and has allegedly tried to make that happen. Contradicts her earlier motions where she claimed to meet Luigi most days at MDC.
Seidemann: Asks WTF Karen and co. have been doing. Cites previous case law that EED should be excluded. Demands report turnover. Echoes KFA's past discovery complaints, just in reverse. Asserts Karen is trying to run out the clock. Also has psych expert.
KFA: Says seidemann should also have been gathering records. Says they have all of Luigi's medicals. Says they're uncertain who will be called.
Carro says turn everything over. Sealing is discussed.
Seidemann wants anon jury.
I'm personally stunned. I'm with Joel on this one. What the fuck have KFA and co. been doing the last 18 months? What happened to the 1.5 million in simpbucks they collected? What defence can they put on now without the EED? Is this really the best team the Mangione family's money could buy?
Luigi truly is a god tier cow. There's plenty of dry spells, but when he produces milk, he flows This is up there with Love Note Gate and Thai Whatsapp for me if I had to do a tier list of his cowiest moments, as if shooting someone over red pill rhetoric and a broken cock wasn't lolworthy enough. God bless this Italian Stallion, it's truly been a wild ride. I'm lowkey disappointed as I wanted a shrink to testify about this schizo. Maybe he'll take the stand and give us a Schizigi moment?
There's no way KFA could reintroduce it. She was meant to turn over all relevant records and her expert to Joel today, but she clearly didn't have it ready and therefore couldn't. We nonnies always said she was a shit lawyer, and now she's continued to show her ass in court and in public. Once he gets convicted Luigi should appeal on ineffective assistance of counsel lol, he would honestly be in the right. He should have gotten a public defender, they would have done a better job and would have saved him money and hassle. If only he could have stuck with our boy Dickey...
So he basically admited to doing the murder... tried to use EED as a defense, then retracted it?
I'm not a laywer, but admitting that you did something you're being put on trial for at all would be a pretty bad look for you as it would doom any chance of you getting a non guilty verdict, wouldn't it?
So he basically admited to doing the murder... tried to use EED as a defense, then retracted it?
I'm not a laywer, but admitting that you did something you're being put on trial for at all would be a pretty bad look for you as it would doom any chance of you getting a non guilty verdict, wouldn't it?
Yep. The defense have admitted to prepping this defence from the outset and officially filed notice in September of last year. Seidemann (the prosecutor) is an expert in deconstructing psychiatric defences, so they really needed to get this right. However, Karen admitted that Luigi hasn't been adequately tested as of June 3rd 2026. The prosecution are also entitled to have their expert evaluate him, and she was meant to turn over her expert and medical records to them today. She literally announced in court that her client was guilty only to withdraw that defence at the last moment
This is up there with Love Note Gate and Thai Whatsapp for me if I had to do a tier list of his cowiest moments, as if shooting someone over red pill rhetoric and a broken cock wasn't lolworthy enough. God bless this Italian Stallion, it's truly been a wild ride. I'm lowkey disappointed as I wanted a shrink to testify about this schizo. Maybe he'll take the stand and give us a Schizigi moment?
