Looking for laptop recommendations

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Curry Teafag dijo:
You're asking for the impossible. LOL
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He really is...
I was looking at updating my 6 year old MSI Raider (piece of shit with failing keyboard after two years and broken hinges too), and couldn't find anything with a decent graphics card in it, and good build quality. Everything is basically built to die thanks to the desire to be 'thin', and because of that you always have thermal issues, and this leads to low wattage cards and power bricks.

I miss the days of a full on desktop replacement laptop, with a power brick that could be used as a lethal weapon, and speakers that came with their own subwoofer. I once upon a time has a Predator which weighed a good 6KG or so and had a 1080 inside it. But then lol ACER put a motherboard in it which was prone to death at the 2 year mark.
 
CaptainAutism69 dijo:
broken hinges
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What is it with people having broken hinges on their MSI laptops? Been reading that sooo often. I've had two MSI laptops myself, the older one being ten years old, and never had a hinge fail.

But on topic, everything I see at up to €1,200 is 16 GiB RAM, 8 GiB VRAM, 1 TB SSD. It's unreal. Those are 2017 specs.
 
CaptainAutism69 dijo:
Everything is basically built to die thanks to the desire to be 'thin',
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So very much this. I get it for some things to a degree. If you have a tablet and you're lying on the sofa holding it in the air, sure - even I want it to be light. But when I see reviewers losing it over some laptop being 1mm thinner than some other laptop and 45g lighter, it's just madness to me. I don't care - I am not made out of pipecleaners. Similar with battery life where we are now passing the point of diminishing returns for mid-range and above. The difference between 4hrs battery life and 10hrs? Big difference - I want that. Difference between 11hrs and 19hrs? Ehhhh, it's a nice to have, but I cannot think of any point in the last five years where I've been away from charging for that lone. Even on long plane trips or train journeys I can plug it in. At my desk, it charges from the same cable I use to connect it to the monitor. And with fast charging tech, I can get a couple of hours from a 15min charge. Anything over ten hours is relegated to "nice to have" but reviewers still lose their minds over it and Macbook owners still insist that 19hrs+ is some great thing. It's a nice to have, but I'd rather the money either not be spent on that or go to something else that affects my actual experience.

I blame Steve Jobs.
 
Curry Teafag dijo:
What is it with people having broken hinges on their MSI laptops? Been reading that sooo often. I've had two MSI laptops myself, the older one being ten years old, and never had a hinge fail.

But on topic, everything I see at up to €1,200 is 16 GiB RAM, 8 GiB VRAM, 1 TB SSD. It's unreal. Those are 2017 specs.
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They were designed to fail. Plastic, thin, and the load is concentrated onto too small an area. In time they become brittle and snap. Same thing with the keyboard ribbon cable, and the keyboard is plastic welded in so you can't change it. Nuclear Notebook (youtube) did a good teardown showing the problem.

 
Overly Serious dijo:
So very much this. I get it for some things to a degree. If you have a tablet and you're lying on the sofa holding it in the air, sure - even I want it to be light. But when I see reviewers losing it over some laptop being 1mm thinner than some other laptop and 45g lighter, it's just madness to me. I don't care - I am not made out of pipecleaners. Similar with battery life where we are now passing the point of diminishing returns for mid-range and above. The difference between 4hrs battery life and 10hrs? Big difference - I want that. Difference between 11hrs and 19hrs? Ehhhh, it's a nice to have, but I cannot think of any point in the last five years where I've been away from charging for that lone. Even on long plane trips or train journeys I can plug it in. At my desk, it charges from the same cable I use to connect it to the monitor. And with fast charging tech, I can get a couple of hours from a 15min charge. Anything over ten hours is relegated to "nice to have" but reviewers still lose their minds over it and Macbook owners still insist that 19hrs+ is some great thing. It's a nice to have, but I'd rather the money either not be spent on that or go to something else that affects my actual experience.

I blame Steve Jobs.
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Battery life isn't either honest...all PC's cripple the performance to get those battery hours, meaning that if you want to be using the specs you paid for instead of 10+ year old specs, you need to be plugged in at all times.
 
CaptainAutism69 dijo:
Battery life isn't either honest...all PC's cripple the performance to get those battery hours, meaning that if you want to be using the specs you paid for instead of 10+ year old specs, you need to be plugged in at all times.
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Well sure, they lie. But nobody pays attention to those. I'm talking about the actual benchmarks as measured. Once it goes past ten actual hours, anything more is rapidly diminishing in value. I suppose one day I may be trapped high in the Himalayas and want to spend my last hours doing as much Excel as possible. But failing that, mid-range and up has mostly past the point of diminishing returns on battery life. It's now just a 'nice to have' not a deciding factor. Same with slimness.
 
Any recommendations for a simple laptop for my mom to replace her old one that couldn't downgrade to 11, and thus won't be getting security updates? Expected usage is web browsing and streaming video.
 
OK, my Spectre x360 from 2016 is reaching the end of it's life. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's always RAM starved thanks to just about every single fucking work related thing being browser based, and even a lightweight browser such as Vivaldi, is being raped. Of course RAM is not upgradable...

Not sure what to replace it with TBH, everything looks like shit these days. I use it for travel and work, so like the lightweight form factor.
 
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