Lolcow Orbiter E-Whores - Alogs, Commentary Channels, and an Industry of retards

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With the recent spergout over the Cyrax thread I have been doing some thinking, and have some observations I hope are worth sharing. Currently there exists a cottage industry around lolcows and retards of desperately unfunny faggots attempting to achieve fame, money, or sick satisfaction from mainstreaming individuals who have abnormal behavior. I believe that a portion of this comes from a result of the success of the Geno Chris Chan documentary, where "regular" people got exposed to lolcow culture and (more importantly for this thread) the success covering said content brought Geno. The problem is of course, that Geno spends a month(s) on each episode and actual work goes into the creation of the content, whereas the people trying to cash in on lolcows have zero interest in doing any actual work.

This lack of effort has led to swarms of channels covering lolcows like some desperate 24 new cycle, where each channel regurgitates the same thing as the next one, albeit with slight differences. To use Cyrax as an example, Marty will spend 6 hours streaming to cause a new freakout and collect money from his paypigs who want to see him verbally humiliate a retard for 20 minutes of that 6 hour time period. Then Smokey (another channel) will take that 20 minutes and make a half an hour video with some editorial telling the audience that it is okay to laugh at Cyrax because of BAD THINGS. Then Kiwitapes will make a video about the incident with some other points all while reinforcing the video that Cyrax is bad so anything that happens to him is alright. This continues more and more channels rehashing the same points to try and get attention from an interested audience. Cyrax, Daniel Larson, Wings, (DSP to a much lesser extent) and plethora of other weirdo's all have these little industry's around them. In and of itself just having people talk about a cow isn't anything new, so what's so different about this new breed of orbiter? A single phrase.

"Blank" is the next Chris Chan. Look in the comments section of any video about Larsen, Cyrax, or any other mainstream cow and you will see people referring to them as the next Chris Chan. This is absolute futility as the set of circumstances that made Chris, Chris-Chan are unique to him and not creatable by onlookers wishing for a thing to be so. And so in these communities you have people artificially trying to force Chris-esque behavior by harassing, deluding, and harming the mentally ill. People aren't trolling these individuals because they themselves find it funny, they're doing it so other people see what they are doing and come watch them fuck with the retard endlessly. This causes other people to either escalate or attempt radically different strategies to get the cow and (more importantly) an audience's attention. This then creates the industry I am talking about where it has been artificially built around a target having most of the following criteria:

1. Physically unattractive. The weirder looking the better. It helps with the "point and look" factor. Bonus points if they are actually deformed.

2. Socially Unusual/Unacceptable behavior. Lack of social norms, weird hobby, and/or oversharing of deeply personal information to strangers all make for great topics of ridicule that can be endlessly poked and prodded for reactions.

3.Mental Illness. Separate from #2, this can be anything from autism, fetal alcohol syndrome, BPD or basically anything that gives the person delusions/the ability to be easily influenced by trolls to do/say/or believe things to be true that are not. This often includes fake friendships, fake romantic relationships, and rivalries that are fictitious.

4. An easily recognizably unlikable attribute. Does the person make vivid threats easily like Cyrax? Are they lazy fat fucks like Tophiachu? Or have they physically hurt someone else like Daniel Larson did? These all become core points that the orbiters keep in the forefront of the viewer's mind so that they want to see lolcow humiliated, distressed, or even hurt. because they deserve it.

5. Sexual Deviancy. Whether it be an obscure fetish, inappropriate/illegal behavior, or general sex pestness, this is an absolute anchor for the orbiters to excuse all their behavior on. It has such a strong reaction with viewers that it makes it further makes them want to see bad things happen to the lolcow, preferably with some sort of escalation of harassment or loss of something the lolcow values. Especially valuable is the label of "pedo" which seemingly excuses anything done by the orbiters, and increases the orbiter's profits. It does not matter how you get this label, all that matters is that you can have carte blanche to do anything once it has been established.

6. Poor support system/easily isolated. Ideally the lolcow has no sensible support structure preventing the orbiters access to them, oversight as to their online activity, and/or become reliant on the orbiters as a form of attention. This is especially valuable if the lolcow has delusional tendencies, and lacks the wherewithal to simply remove themselves from the social circles affecting them.

Orbiters find someone that posses these qualities and then try and push them to "be the next chris chan" so that the orbiter can profit off the ensuing news/drama/misery. An example of this is a fairly unknown person called "The White Bowser" (they have a thread in spergatory) who is a distinctly uninteresting retard. However, because he ticks enough of those boxes, there are hours of content of unfunny faggots getting him in zoom calls so they can confront past behavior, accuse him of some new gross thing, or trick him into saying something stupid. All eaten up by a small group of fans who want to watch people le epically own a "bad guy". It isn't original, it isn't clever, and above all it isn't funny. Most retards are lonely gullible people who will latch onto any kind of attention (even if its negative) and unless someone radically intervenes they become locked into these cancerous orbits until they die, disappear or go to prison. Anytime an orbiter says they want the lolcow to improve, grow, or make a positive change it is a fucking virtue signaling lie made knowing the cow will not change, and allow the orbiter to act like some kind of beacon of fairness.

I just want to laugh at odd little people on the internet. Share some jokes with people in threads. Maybe even watch a funny video of a lolcow doing something dumb. Because of this I have noticed this increasing trend of unfunny faggots trying to profit off the contrived suffering of retards. I realize that there will always be groups of people who are unreasonably invested in the downfall of a lolcow (Fatrick, Wings, DSP, Chantel, etc), but I do feel as if recently things are a little different. People don't just want to watch a lolcow flail, they want to hang him, hold the rope while he screams, and then feel good about themselves afterwards because the lolcow DESERVED it. I have no "how then shall we live closing" or anything of that nature, but I am interested to hear what other people think about this topic.

PS Apologies if this isn't the place for this.
 
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This lack of effort has led to swarms of channels covering lolcows like some desperate 24 new cycle, where each channel regurgitates the same thing as the next one, albeit with slight differences

I agree i really hate the surface level commentary these channels give "look at this retard hes so retarded." its really annoying and gay
 
Is this for Lolcow in general or what. I think Ralph, DSP, and Chris already have their own a-logs threads in their sub-forum.
It's more of a general observation. Guys like Ralph, DSP, and Chris tend to have their little Alog industries, but they developed over time, whereas what we are seeing now is a rapid artificial growth, spurred on by malicious faggots.
 
Should May be the king of the A-logs?

She basically married a lolcow and is actively ruining his and her life. Mostly by enabling his multiple addictions like alcohol, gambling, eating, etc. Also ruining the life of their offspring by having them be born into the Ralpha dynasty that is inhabited by a lolicon. She also married Ralph to get more e- infamous.
 
Should May be the king of the A-logs?

She basically married a lolcow and is actively ruining his and her life. Mostly by enabling his multiple addictions like alcohol, gambling, eating, etc. Also ruining the life of their offspring by having them be born into the Ralpha dynasty that is inhabited by a lolicon. She also married Ralph to get more e- infamous.
I think she's just a retard whore who has a fetish for men destroying themselves.
 
Courtney is a big buddy troll, same with Krystal Roberts. They both orbit kingcobrajfs and more or less encourage the boglim to bog away. It's less kick the autistic and more tard wrangling, but they absolutely do send him money and booze, which tbh, is just as dangerous as punching him.

Ngl I do enjoy the play by play channels like SmokeyMcC because he trims the fay and the commentary, while not mind-blowing or original by any means, a good sanity break here and there to narrate the situation and make a screaming goblin a bit more palatable.

Not here to defend it, but as someone who loved watching shows like Maury and Jerry Springer growing up, lolcow content scratches that itch for me that reality television just can't. If anything, lolcow tubers atleast aren't part of a huge industry or living in mansions like Dr. Phil. Sure they get some extra money here and there but none of them amount to anything more than a hobby or side hustle. None of these youtubers are making big time money. It's not like a Honey Boo Boo situation where you have a huge cable network like TLC with millionaire producers and executives watching a poverty struck family eat roadkill for dinner.

It's not great,but it's also nothing new. Like lolcows have been around since the court jesters of olden days.
 
Tiktok and a new generation.

They have comodified lolcow culture, something that had always been "underground", as in only a smaller group of people had any ongoing interest.

I think Chris' arrest was a merging point of underground to mainstream, as if your local punk band suddenly had a commercial hit. Whenever something becomes mainstream, it's always monetized and the authenticity is lost. As people see the rising popularity, more people jump on the bandwagon.

I think Daniel Larsen was the "next big thing" after Chris because the general population had "missed" what made Chris "special" to begin with. Daniel made himself extremely accessible on Tiktok which gave him a certain virality in an algorithm that was already excited by Chris.

I do see a lot of "the next Chris Chan" type videos on my YouTube recommended list and a very large percentage are just young, weird/demented kids on Tiktok.

In reality, there can never be a "next Chris Chan" because there can never be the "next Rolling Stones". There are those who understand why that can never happen and there are those who don't and will try over and over again to recreate the magic. All of the articles will push it down your throat that these guys are just like the last guys but if that was true, we wouldn't need to be told that.

In regards to the a-logs and reactors directly: I'm probably in the minority that I just don't like 99.9% of it. If I still went by my previous metaphor, if a fan of the Rolling Stones started showing up where they are to do anything besides ask for an autograph once, they'd be arrested. Of course, I don't think any of these lolcows are even moderately like the actual members of the Stones or have their fame level, which only makes the concept of a-logging in particular that much stranger. Without any financial gain, it doesn't make sense to me as to why someone would do it.

I don't think it's funny at all to get involved with people like Chris Chan unless they're genuinely going to be his "friend", like King Cobra's cast of misfits. There is something internally sinister about the desire to want to do this to mentally ill / mentally challenged people they don't even really know on the internet for fun or money.

I don't think watching someone who willingly shares their own deranged behavior online is sinister though - its no different than a GG Allin concert.
 
I don't think it's funny at all to get involved with people like Chris Chan unless they're genuinely going to be his "friend",
I find the way people isolate weirdos and pretend to be their friends, incredibly gross. If you think a lolcow is a gross demented piece of shit, then you should lead with that, and not weasel yourself into their social circle so you can take advantage of their gullibility/desperation.
 
I find the way people isolate weirdos and pretend to be their friends, incredibly gross. If you think a lolcow is a gross demented piece of shit, then you should lead with that, and not weasel yourself into their social circle so you can take advantage of their gullibility/desperation.
I agree with this and would like to clarify when I mentioned King Cobra as an example I meant the random people that are in his apartment and hung out or slept on his couch. Actual "friends", even if they too are too fucked up to understand the concept. I'm sure people can argue whether these are his actual "friends" but they didn't enter the picture with malicious intent most of the time. It's organic and plays out organically.

I know Cobra has a-logs and is basically gatekept by them as well and it's just not funny to me. The only time it was ever funny was when people stole Chris / Cobras identities and had their own comedy skit. That feels like classic comedy, like The Three Stooges.
 
n and of itself just having people talk about a cow isn't anything new, so what's so different about this new breed of orbiter? A single phrase.

"Blank" is the next Chris Chan. Look in the comments section of any video about Larsen, Cyrax, or any other mainstream cow and you will see people referring to them as the next Chris Chan.

no. i think what's different is that they are doing it to grow their own social media (usually youtube and twitch) presence, to get money and fame.
people discussing lolcows on kf or on imageboards are doing it as genuine entertainment for themselves. people who make youtube videos about lolcows are trying to commercialize it and turn it into a career. that's the big difference.
 
no. i think what's different is that they are doing it to grow their own social media (usually youtube and twitch) presence, to get money and fame.
people discussing lolcows on kf or on imageboards are doing it as genuine entertainment for themselves. people who make youtube videos about lolcows are trying to commercialize it and turn it into a career. that's the big difference.
Nailed it.

Though I can see the point about "X is the new Chris-chan" OP noted: The clout hunters HAVE to big up their subject, otherwise they're just sad little spergs.

(They're more often than not sad little spergs anyway, but they prefer not to see themselves that way.)
 
no. i think what's different is that they are doing it to grow their own social media (usually youtube and twitch) presence, to get money and fame.
people discussing lolcows on kf or on imageboards are doing it as genuine entertainment for themselves. people who make youtube videos about lolcows are trying to commercialize it and turn it into a career. that's the big difference.
That is the overall conclusion of my little autism essay. I do think the comparisons to Chris are kind of important because it shows that this new lolcow audience is actively comparing their lolcow to Chris in a weird sort of wishful way. They actively want to see the cow do worse and worse so they can sit around and talk about how much of the retard the cow is, and how good they are in comparison.

I think Porkney from the Cobraverse fits this description, she's trying to set herself up as the ultimate gatekeeper / wrangler of Josh and she's isolating him as much as she can from others online.
I don't know much about Cobra or his orbiters, but I'm not surprised he has an industry around him as well.
 
I don't know much about Cobra or his orbiters, but I'm not surprised he has an industry around him as well.

He's sorta entered normy tube and tic-tock as a thing, he's sadly attracted a lot of clout chasers and a really malicious kind of ween like really vindictive sending Grinder dates to his house, giving larger super chat donations and then charging them back etc and it's already making a bad situation worse, he was a alcholic shutin before but now he's a parranoid alcoholic shutin who get's randoms sending stuff to him all times of the day and night - making him worse.
 
He's sorta entered normy tube and tic-tock as a thing, he's sadly attracted a lot of clout chasers and a really malicious kind of ween like really vindictive sending Grinder dates to his house, giving larger super chat donations and then charging them back etc and it's already making a bad situation worse, he was a alcholic shutin before but now he's a parranoid alcoholic shutin who get's randoms sending stuff to him all times of the day and night - making him worse.
The thing I find really disturbing is how people turn these weirdos lives into an actual 24/7 gangstalking event. People constantly doing things to disrupt the cows life and provoke more and more. They want all the milk NOW NOW NOW, and in the process are fine killing the cow.
 
The thing I find really disturbing is how people turn these weirdos lives into an actual 24/7 gangstalking event. People constantly doing things to disrupt the cows life and provoke more and more. They want all the milk NOW NOW NOW, and in the process are fine killing the cow.

Yea that is a new disturbing trend in lolcows in general, it's like they expect the circus monkey to dance every time you tap the glass.

Chris was the first and bit of an exception just to his early discovery an notoriety but Josh is just a really sad case of too monged for normality and to normal for monged assistance. His best times where when he was randomly spouting shit and playing songs an cooking, now he's just sitting there on a incest infested chair drinking himself into oblivion each an every day.

I've said this in his thread but I really do feel for Josh, I'm a former alcoholic (albeit a functional one) with some special interests I've managed to game into a living - I see elements of myself in him and I want to see him do well because I know he can maybe not to the level I can but he has been and could be far better than he is now even if he stayed of the benifits train the rest of his life he can be better as a person but I think with the influx of paypigs and glass tappers he's not going to be able to do that.
 
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