LIVING America’s obsession with freedom is making men fat: study - Give up your freedoms goy

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American cultural norms could be making us fat.

A new study looked at the effects of societal traits on obesity rates — and it found that countries that value individualism have higher body mass indexes in males.

Published in the journal Social Science & Medicine, the study examined data from 51 countries to find out why there is so much variation in global obesity rates.

While economic prosperity is an important factor — with wealthier nations having greater access to food and lower levels of physical activity — it doesn’t explain why some less-developed countries have high levels of obesity (Egypt, Jordan, Mexico) and more developed ones don’t (Japan, South Korea, Singapore).

The study found that those latter countries were more “flexible.” In other words, they prioritize thrift, discipline, self control and delaying gratification — all behaviors that can help with weight control. They were also slimmer across the board.

Meanwhile, countries that valued individualism — such as the United States and those in Northwestern Europe, as well as some in Latin America — are more headstrong about personal independence and choices. Men in these countries tended to be heftier, although it was surprisingly not a factor when it comes to women.

While the study acknowledged that genetics and diet — particularly the fatty, processed and sugary foods Americans love — contribute to obesity, it found that national culture also played an underdiscussed role.

The findings resonated with Dr. George Fielding, a bariatric surgeon and professor of surgery at New York University.

“I’m not trying to be crass, but fat is the new normal here,” Fielding told The Post.

“Culturally, it’s fine to be considered fat. Britain and Australia are the same. Most of the people making national health policies are aiming it at individuals to eat less and exercise more, rather than look at the [societal] cost of health care and early death.”

As of 2020, the prevalence of obesity among adults was 41.9% in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Obesity — one of the leading causes of death globally — is linked to a myriad of life-shortening illnesses including Type 2 diabetes, many cancers and cardiovascular disease.

“On the flip side, in Asian countries, there’s a belief you should comply with restraint, which is not inherent in American culture,” said Fielding. “There are rules, and you are supposed to follow the rules.”

As for the difference between male and female obesity rates in “individualist” countries, the surgeon said he sees the dynamic play out in his own practice — where women outnumber men for bariatric surgery 3 to 1.

“Men in particular think, ‘I’m an individual, don’t tell me what to do. I’m going to eat what I want,’ ” said Fielding, who notes that surgery should be considered once a person’s BMI hits 40.

He said female patients seek interventions because they feel terrible, while his male patients are motivated to lose weight once they’ve become ill due to diabetes, high blood pressure or heart ailments.

Fielding, who called obesity a “national disaster,” added that other societal factors play into our collective weight issues.

“Fewer and fewer jobs require physical exertion, and you don’t have to work hard to get food anymore,” he said. “We have heaps of processed food, and we are bombarded with advertisements for it. It all plays a big part.”

As for reversing the trend, Fielding said it’s an uphill battle: “How do you institute a national policy in a country where you can’t tell anyone anything?”

But he said that acknowledging America’s obesity problem — now verboten in polite society — would help.

“It’s the new normal, and how dare you be mean to the new normal?” Fielding said. “The people out there who are fat, they think that’s how it is now.”
 
1. Tl;dr lol fat.
2. Also wow fatphobic much?
3. Manifest destiny is based as fuck and you can gargle my red, white, and blue balls.

Shitposting aside, where was all this "maybe you fuckers should put the fork down and go for a walk" thinking 10-15 years ago? This isn't a result of "an obsession with freedom", this is the result of bullshit like HAES being touted as "healthy".
 
it's one of those articles where irrelevant correlation is hailed as something important
in statistics 101 they actually warn about this very thing

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It's called p-hacking and is used in bad faith to find correlations wherever a statistician has an agenda. It goes like this:
  1. Determine that you like or dislike a Thing (in this case, the author dislikes individualism)
  2. Make a list of countries sorted by Thing
  3. Make a thousand more lists of bad things if you dislike Thing or good things if you like Thing
  4. Find the correlation coefficient of each list compared to Thing
  5. Pick the highest number and claim that Thing causes Other Thing
You can do it with literally anything. There are so many bad things, one of them is bound to correlate with your target by pure happenstance. Spurious Correlations is a great website that demonstrates this well. It's just a bunch of completely random data smashed together. You can find some nearly perfect correlations between two things that couldn't possibly have any real-world connection to one another.
 
Nah I'm just tired lmao, also need to clean the fucking keyboard probably. Been having to slam the space bar with the FORCE OF GOD to get it to work half the time.
I can sympathize. My last computer had its "O" key unhinge entirely and I could never stick it back on.

...and then the motherboard died all at once, so I didn't have to bother with it either way.
 
1. Tl;dr lol fat.
2. Also wow fatphobic much?
3. Manifest destiny is based as fuck and you can gargle my red, white, and blue balls.

Shitposting aside, where was all this "maybe you fuckers should put the fork down and go for a walk" thinking 10-15 years ago? This isn't a result of "an obsession with freedom", this is the result of bullshit like HAES being touted as "healthy".
fat black woman
YAS QUEEN SLAY THAT TWINKIE HEALTHY AT ANY SIZE

fat white man
OMG FAT FAT FATTY FUCK FAT DIE DIE DIE
 
So, women aren't at fault when they're fat, but men are? Logic checks out.

Freedom isn't to blame for fatness, but not stressing that with freedom comes personal responsibility and using common sense is.
 
So, women aren't at fault when they're fat, but men are? Logic checks out.

Freedom isn't to blame for fatness, but not stressing that with freedom comes personal responsibility and using common sense is.
That would be a perfect meme featuring the third world skeptical kid: "Men are fault when they're fat. But women aren't at fault?" :story:
 
There's a whole host of reasons, none of which are solely responsible. But in the USA at least; we put sugar and or preservatives in everything. We also allow only a few companies to process food instead of having a lot more smaller/local processors. Another is work; despite what's going on now, Americans work a lot, at times we need more hours or another person to help, when we don't, we take shortcuts with fast food instead of doing the hard thing of actually cooking. Depending on where you are, water can cost more than soda, which is one of the worst things you can put in your body.

As for Asians... They'll just tell you you're fat, and boys/girls won't want you if you're fat. Asians are polite people, but they're also pretty straight shooters.

Also...
Also places like Japan have more fat shaming, including by your employer.
Japan has "National Waist Measuring Day," to make sure their populace isn't fat, and offer incentives to keep people skinny. That shit wouldn't fly in the USA with all the body positivity lunacy.
 
Spurious Correlations is a great website that demonstrates this well.
*clicks on link, instantly gets fucking paid off in gold*

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fat black woman
YAS QUEEN SLAY THAT TWINKIE HEALTHY AT ANY SIZE

fat white man
OMG FAT FAT FATTY FUCK FAT DIE DIE DIE
It must just be coincidental, but if I didn't know better I'd say libtards are secretly still the party of the KKK by encourage all the LGBT and "PoCs" to become unhealthy, troon out, and kill their own offspring.
 
SHUT UP LIBERAL!!! I WILL EAT 3 CHEEZEBURGERS IF I WANT TO BECAUSE IT IS MY RYGHT!!! MURICA!!! FUCK YEAHHHHHHH!!!
Im annoyed because this article is both somewhat pointed and somewhat vague especially in terms of how it talks about obesity and gender and then the intersection of those, and I suppose its influenced by being in A&H and the subheader OP gave it. But it mentions a few things, the individualism, then gender and weight and then seemingly starts from the conclusion and goes, okay well whats the difference from this thing I like and this other one--well they arent listening to me, who is right.

Basically everyone is pointing it out here, but hes ignoring the real variable and its not that men are more defiant or stubborn, he even addresses it with the bariatric thing, which is whats annoying. Globally, womens standard of beauty is to be small, petite, slim, but with men, bigger is better. The standard is still to be cut and fit, but tall too, wide shoulders, whatever--but if you cant be that, bigger (to a point) is still better/more acceptable or 'masculine' than being short, small and/or scrawny.
 
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Why I have an eerie feeling then some random "happy merchant" is behind the fat acceptance/body positivity movement?

Yeah, you would be right. A TIF doctor named Lindo Bacon (née Linda) is a reason why "health at every size" took off like it did among fatties. She's constantly cited as gospel among them, even though she's conspicuously not fat herself.
 
While economic prosperity is an important factor — with wealthier nations having greater access to food and lower levels of physical activity — it doesn’t explain why some less-developed countries have high levels of obesity (Egypt, Jordan, Mexico) and more developed ones don’t (Japan, South Korea, Singapore).

The study found that those latter countries were more “flexible.” In other words, they prioritize thrift, discipline, self control and delaying gratification — all behaviors that can help with weight control. They were also slimmer across the board.

Meanwhile, countries that valued individualism — such as the United States and those in Northwestern Europe, as well as some in Latin America — are more headstrong about personal independence and choices. Men in these countries tended to be heftier, although it was surprisingly not a factor when it comes to women
I've always heard that Asians fat shame more.

In Western countries people don't really give you a lot of shit if you're fat because it'd be viewed impolite. Plus obese people are featured more often in advertising and TV shows as though it's a perfectly ordinary weight, whereas in a lot of these Asian shows and advertising everyone is shown looking more petite. When you're constantly shown how being overweight is normal it's going to make people think it is natural to carry around a bit of extra weight, which can slip into being massively overweight.

I always find it a bit funky when I go by the hip bars and clubs in my city and most people seem to be healthy weights (there are a few exceptions). So I would think it also helps to just see attractive people more often to have an idea of what you want to attain. It's a bit like the thinspiration that anorexics would be fans of.
 
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