Culture Liam Neeson sought out black people to kill

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...ursuit-sexual-assault-interview-a8760866.html

Liam Neeson has revealed he once walked the streets with a cosh for days looking to kill a “black bastard” after someone close to him was raped many years ago.

The actor shared the previously undisclosed story with The Independent during a press junket for his new film, Cold Pursuit, admitting that he is now “ashamed” of his past “awful” behaviour.

Neeson, who has starred in films such as Taken and Non-Stop, recalled being told about the rape after he returned from a trip overseas.

“She handled the situation of the rape in the most extraordinary way,” Neeson said during the interview, which can be read in full here. “But my immediate reaction was ... did she know who it was? No. What colour were they? She said it was a black person.

“I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I’d be approached by somebody. I’m ashamed to say that, and I did it for maybe a week – hoping some [Neeson gestures air quotes with his fingers] ‘black bastard’ would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could kill him.”
Neeson said it took him about a week or a week and a half to process what had happened.

“It was horrible, horrible, when I think back, that I did that,” he said. “And I’ve never admitted that, and I’m saying it to a journalist. God forbid.”

He added: “It’s awful. But I did learn a lesson from it, when I eventually thought, ‘What the fuck are you doing’, you know?
“I understand that need for revenge, but it just leads to more revenge, to more killing and more killing.”

Neeson shared the personal story after being asked to give more insight into his Cold Pursuit character Nels Coxman’s need for revenge after his son is killed by a drug gang.

“I think audience members live to see that,” Neeson said of onscreen violence. “They can kind of live vicariously through it. People say, ‘Yeah but violence in films makes people want to go out and kill people.’ I don’t believe that at all.

“I think the average moviegoer thinks, ‘Yeah, punch him. Punch him.’ And they get a satisfaction out of seeing somebody else enact it, and they leave the theatre and they feel satiated in some way.”

The Independent contacted Neeson’s publicist for further comment but he declined.

Original Article
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...-man-revenge-taken-cold-pursuit-a8760896.html
Liam Neeson is sitting in an armchair with a flask of tea at his side. We are in the sprawling suite of a Manhattan hotel to talk about his latest film, Cold Pursuit. Just as he has in a number of roles since he became an action hero in his fifties, Neeson plays an everyman hell-bent on revenge. Yet here in the rigid, conveyor-belt atmosphere of the celebrity junket, the 66-year-old star of Taken is about to recount a disturbing incident from his past, a confession that he’s never made before. It will involve how he learnt about the rape of someone close to him many years ago, how he roamed the streets for a week afterwards carrying with him a cosh and brutal, racist thoughts, and how this taught him that violence and revenge do not work.

It begins as an explanation of how his latest character turns to anger. “There’s something primal – God forbid you’ve ever had a member of your family hurt under criminal conditions,” he begins, hesitantly but thoughtfully. “I’ll tell you a story. This is true.”

It was some time ago. Neeson had just come back from overseas to find out about the rape. “She handled the situation of the rape in the most extraordinary way,” Neeson says. “But my immediate reaction was…” There’s a pause. “I asked, did she know who it was? No. What colour were they? She said it was a black person.


“I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I’d be approached by somebody – I’m ashamed to say that – and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some [Neeson gestures air quotes with his fingers] ‘black bastard’ would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could,” another pause, “kill him.”

Neeson clearly knows what he’s saying, and how shocking it is, how appalling. “It took me a week, maybe a week and a half, to go through that. She would say, ‘Where are you going?’ and I would say, ‘I’m just going out for a walk.’ You know? ‘What’s wrong?’ ‘No no, nothing’s wrong.’”

Liam Neeson: ‘I walked the streets with a cosh, hoping I’d be approached by a “black bastard” so that I could kill him’
He deliberately withholds details to protect the identity of the victim. “It was horrible, horrible, when I think back, that I did that,” he says. “And I’ve never admitted that, and I’m saying it to a journalist. God forbid.”

“Holy shit,” says Tom Bateman, his co-star, who is sitting beside him.

“It’s awful,” Neeson continues, a tremble in his breath. “But I did learn a lesson from it, when I eventually thought, ‘What the fuck are you doing,’ you know?”

Neeson seeks revenge against the drug dealers that killed his son in ‘Cold Pursuit’ (Lionsgate)
All three of us know – Neeson, Bateman and I – that this is a distressing admission. “I come from a society – I grew up in Northern Ireland in the Troubles – and, you know, I knew a couple of guys that died on hunger strike, and I had acquaintances who were very caught up in the Troubles, and I understand that need for revenge, but it just leads to more revenge, to more killing and more killing, and Northern Ireland’s proof of that. All this stuff that’s happening in the world, the violence, is proof of that, you know. But that primal need, I understand.”

He continues, more generally, about violence on screen. His tone changes. We’re back, suddenly, to a normal junket interview. But this had not been the average confession to make. As he had admitted, it’s horrible, awful. Is it possible to hear that said out loud or to read those words and not judge? Then again, think of the circumstance – he had learnt someone close to him had been raped. No one would ever want to have to confront that in their own life. Do other people react that way?
In Cold Pursuit, the son of his character, Nels Coxman, is killed by a drug gang, sparking the desire for revenge. “I think audience members live to see [that violence on screen],” Neeson continues. “They can kind of live vicariously through it. People say, ‘Yeah but violence in films makes people want to go out and kill people.’ I don’t believe that at all.

“I think the average moviegoer thinks, ‘Yeah, punch him. Punch him.’ And they get a satisfaction out of seeing somebody else enact it, and they leave the theatre and they feel satiated in some way.”

In the real world, there are, of course, many different triggers behind that awful desire for violence. Neeson’s own story can’t be separated from the circumstances of the rape of someone close to him, can it? It is not uncommon for people to experience a desire for revenge after a sexual assault. I contacted Laura Palumbo, from the National Sexual Violence Resource Centre, a non-profit based in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, to talk about this – without revealing Neeson’s name. Such incidents, she says, can lead to a variety of emotions ranging from shock to the shame of not being able to prevent the attack from happening.

“Often it is less obvious to the loved ones of survivors that they might actually need support in dealing with their emotions themselves, just like the survivors,” says Palumbo. They experience a secondary form of trauma, she explains. Some start thinking about what they could have done differently, and they may contemplate seeking retribution.

Gender stereotypes can reinforce those feelings. Palumbo says men face “a number of pressures” due to the way they’re typically socialised, which usually sends them the message that they should be “protectors”. When an attack does happen, they can feel powerless, which in turn can trigger a desire for control. “They want to harm the person who did this to their loved one. They want them to face the consequence. There’s that strong desire to redeem power, to redeem control,” Palumbo says. But the victim of a sexual assault must, of course, take priority, she continues – and the hope is that by receiving counselling and addressing their own feelings, loved ones can in turn focus on the survivor’s needs.

Neeson’s brief desire for such random, violent revenge is all the more alarming for the racial dimension to his confession. Lasana Harris is an associate professor of experimental psychology at University College London. Again, nothing of Neeson’s identity was revealed when I contacted him to discuss this following the interview, so he was not commenting on Neeson but on his more general experience and knowledge. Incidents as abhorrent as rape can, he says, shape the way someone thinks about a specific community. And this is not just relevant to race – for example, the thoughts one might harbour about young people, or old people as well as black people.

‘Taken’ kickstarted his action-movie career in 2008 (Fox)
“I think it may have something to do with the pre-existing biases,” says Harris, though remember this cannot be taken as a judgement on Neeson himself nor this specific incident. He explains how our minds can generalise a negative experience with a person by categorising them in a way that may be flawed. Was that what was happening when Neeson walked the streets looking for a random person on whom to exact his revenge? Harris acknowledges that there is an unjustifiable prejudice when it comes to black people being perceived as perpetrators of sexual assault. “You can control it if you’re aware of the stereotype, if you’re aware of the fact that you have these stereotypes and these biases,” he says.

Some days after that short, 17-minute interview in a New York City hotel, I contacted Neeson’s publicist again to see if he would discuss his story further. He declined. But as Neeson said, the story has now been told for the first time. Perhaps that’s enough.
 
You're ignoring context and honestly you're missing the point so fucking hard it's possible you'll circle the earth and come back around to get it. He didn't set out to kill darkies for fun, he was mentally broken and that is the point of what he was saying. Extreme emotions make you stupid. It was a cautionary tale. If you really need to consider the race angle and I know that black people can't help but make everything about the plight of black people, you could say that he was racist while he was out of his mind and then came back to his senses.
Lol you are dumb and you apparently also think my avatar is really a picture of me.

Listen, if your reaction to being mentally broken is to go look for someone to murder of the same race as the person you're really mad at, I don't mind writing you off as a dangerous racist asshole.

HE is the one who said he was looking for a black guy to kill. Those are his words, not mine. Do you think the black kid who was shooting white people and stated "I wanted to kill white people" wasn't racist?
 
Lol you are dumb and you apparently also think my avatar is really a picture of me.

Listen, if your reaction to being mentally broken is to go look for someone to murder of the same race as the person you're really mad at, I don't mind writing you off as a dangerous racist asshole.

HE is the one who said he was looking for a black guy to kill. Those are his words, not mine. Do you think the black kid who was shooting white people and stated "I wanted to kill white people" wasn't racist?

It's called "blind rage" for a reason. People do (or want to do) stupid, stupid things when they're pissed off. Look at the whole #MeToo movement and even feminazis before them. Do you think it's right that "kill all men" is something that still gets said without being tongue-in-cheek? Incels are another perfect example of this who parrot the opposite, going on and on about how "women are horrible" and should die for not giving them sex.

None of it is right, but we all do it at some point because pinning blame on someone or something makes us feel better. At least Neeson was man enough to say how stupid he was while we still have fuckwits droning about how all cis/white/men/women/whatever should die.
 
Lol you are dumb and you apparently also think my avatar is really a picture of me.

Listen, if your reaction to being mentally broken is to go look for someone to murder of the same race as the person you're really mad at, I don't mind writing you off as a dangerous racist asshole.

HE is the one who said he was looking for a black guy to kill. Those are his words, not mine. Do you think the black kid who was shooting white people and stated "I wanted to kill white people" wasn't racist?

No I don't think that because I don't care if you're a black person or not. I'm not a race fetishist, it makes no difference to me and I don't sit here wondering about that creepy shit. And you continue to be oblivious to the point he was talking about. He wasn't looking for a black guy to kill in a vacuum, he was looking for that one guy and it just so happened he was out of his mind and thought anyone that looked like him could be the guy. Because he was irrational. He told that story as an anecdote of stupid blind rage. Like I said, he wasn't proud of it, he regretted it and probably thought that by sharing it he could alert people to the dangers of acting on impulse. While that might be a racist action, it doesn't make him a racist person. People are complicated and everyone's prone to get stupid when traumatized.

Did you watch Irreversible? That's the fucking point to the movie.
 
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Haven't followed this closely, but my impression is that Neeson was talking about a low and shameful point in his life, hoping it would make people in a similar situation realize that they can and must get over it.

He wasn't bragging.
 
Neeson is recalling a story where he admits he once felt an irrational anger and a sense of racial tribalism, but eventually he realized neither was appropriate, and so he overcame those impulses. We all have the capacity for racial tribalism, and we have all been controlled by anger at some point. Neeson's ability to overcome those impulses and back away from his impulse for Deathwish-style revenge is admirable.


The fuck it is. For an entire week he was planning a murder. I'm so happy he decided not to kill a random stranger.

So admirable. So brave
 
The L.A. Times says that white people should learn from Liam Neeson: That we need to "own up to our horribleness."

Yeha.. like anybodys going to look at the mob tearing Liam to bits and go "went well for him... i should tell them how i used to feel about niggers now!! Its time to own up to my own horribleness"
 
Funny thing is "Black bastard" over here is a derogatory term for Loyalists/Extreme protestants, Police(RUC/PSNI) and Orangemen

You have Trump supporters?
:thinking:

The fuck it is. For an entire week he was planning a murder. I'm so happy he decided not to kill a random stranger.

So admirable. So brave

He didn't do it, so yeah. Ultimately pretty admirable.

Are we pretending normal people don't have dark thoughts, feelings, and impulses, especially when they're young and stupid and reacting to bad things happening to loved ones? We've all wanted to kill someone at some point in our lives, and we've had at least momentary and unreasonable anger towards entire groups of people.

Shit, why do you think Deathwish got so many sequels? Because we can all understand the fantasy even if we would never act on it. Those movies are literally about Charles Bronson walking around in dangerous areas so someone will attack him and he can kill them in "self-defense" after a loved one is murdered. People loved them!

Save your outrage and condemnation for people who actually go on murder sprees. Thoughtcrime isn't worth getting upset over.
 
It's called "blind rage" for a reason. People do (or want to do) stupid, stupid things when they're pissed off. Look at the whole #MeToo movement and even feminazis before them. Do you think it's right that "kill all men" is something that still gets said without being tongue-in-cheek? Incels are another perfect example of this who parrot the opposite, going on and on about how "women are horrible" and should die for not giving them sex.

None of it is right, but we all do it at some point because pinning blame on someone or something makes us feel better. At least Neeson was man enough to say how stupid he was while we still have fuckwits droning about how all cis/white/men/women/whatever should die.
Saying "All X should die" is different from saying "OK I was walking the streets, looking to murder the first X who looked at me funny." If a feminist said that, you'd be OK? Oh, well, she didn't actually murder any men, she just strongly considered it.

A person whose instinct when in a blind rage is to kill the first person who looked at him funny and also matched the race of the person who they were actually mad at is a racist asshole.

Sometimes I get mad. Really mad. If I tell a story later in life about the time I was really mad, and planned to shoot up a mall, but then getting the gun was a bit of a pain in the ass so I decided not to, you would be right to say I am a dangerous fucking psychopath. However I don't do that. I have been really mad, but never looked for a person of a particular race to go murder.

He wasn't looking for the specific rapist, he said he was looking for a "black bastard to come at him". He was looking for a fight and was planning to murder the person.

I mean, yeah, OJ simpson was in a blind rage when he murdered his wife and her friend. That doesn't make it ok.

Yeha.. like anybodys going to look at the mob tearing Liam to bits and go "went well for him... i should tell them how i used to feel about niggers now!! Its time to own up to my own horribleness"
Yes, this is a good take. If you at one point had plans to murder someone based on their race, but decided against it, it's very wise to never admit you almost did such a horrible thing. Otherwise people might be horrified and react accordingly.

Or do I deserve accolades for all the murders I haven't committed?
 
Telling old stories about hunting niggers with a fucking crowbar is a hell of a way to promote a revenge movie..

Wish there was a POV video of the promotional team he was there with that captured their reactions as he was telling that story lmao
 
Saying "All X should die" is different from saying "OK I was walking the streets, looking to murder the first X who looked at me funny." If a feminist said that, you'd be OK? Oh, well, she didn't actually murder any men, she just strongly considered it.

A person whose instinct when in a blind rage is to kill the first person who looked at him funny and also matched the race of the person who they were actually mad at is a racist asshole.

Sometimes I get mad. Really mad. If I tell a story later in life about the time I was really mad, and planned to shoot up a mall, but then getting the gun was a bit of a pain in the ass so I decided not to, you would be right to say I am a dangerous fucking psychopath. However I don't do that. I have been really mad, but never looked for a person of a particular race to go murder.

He wasn't looking for the specific rapist, he said he was looking for a "black bastard to come at him". He was looking for a fight and was planning to murder the person.

I mean, yeah, OJ simpson was in a blind rage when he murdered his wife and her friend. That doesn't make it ok.

Neeson was not looking for congratulations, nor was he arguing that anybody should say he was right to behave the way he did that week. Most of the people here agree that he was on a horrible line of thought that week. But he brought awareness, and I would rather trust a person who owns his fucked up past than the one who takes zero responsibility over it.
 
Liam "Shooting Spree in KFC" Neeson

Liam "Beating the Congos like a pair of Bongos" Neeson

Liam "African Nation? You mean Wildlife Reservation" Neeson

Liam "The One Man Klan with the Plan" Neeson

Liam "African Hunting Season" Neeson


Liam "Itching for a lynching" Neeson

Liam "Not white, club on sight" Neeson

Liam "I'll make Dylann Roof look like a goof" Neeson

Liam "Hitting a chimp till he goes limp" Neeson

Liam "Raping niggers deserve the trigger" Neeson

Liam "Making mud with African Blood" Neeson

Liam "Bashing Nigger brains in the rain" Neeson
 
Neeson was not looking for congratulations, nor was he arguing that anybody should say he was right to behave the way he did that week. Most of the people here agree that he was on a horrible line of thought that week. But he brought awareness, and I would rather trust a person who owns his fucked up past than the one who takes zero responsibility over it.

So... the assumption is EVERYONE has walked the streets looking for someone of their least favorite race to murder, but only Liam has the balls to admit it?

Most people go their entire lives without seriously entertaining murder plans.
 
So... the assumption is EVERYONE has walked the streets looking for someone of their least favorite race to murder, but only Liam has the balls to admit it?

Most people go their entire lives without seriously entertaining murder plans.

Most people entertain ideas of causing serious harm of some sort at some point in their lives. Just as most people have racist thoughts at some point in their lives.
 
Liam "Itching for a lynching" Neeson

Liam "Not white, club on sight" Neeson

Liam "I'll make Dylann Roof look like a goof" Neeson

Liam "Hitting a chimp till he goes limp" Neeson

Liam "Raping niggers deserve the trigger" Neeson

Liam "Making mud with African Blood" Neeson

Liam "Bashing Nigger brains in the rain" Neeson

Liam "If he's brown, put him into the ground" Neeson

Liam "I'm going to make April 1916 look like a fucking joke" Neeson

Liam "If you black and tan, then get into the fucking van" Neeson

Liam "32 counties; no brownies" Neeson
 
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