🐱 Legend of Zelda's queer-coded villain divides gamers

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The summer remake of 2011’s “The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword” has spurred new reactions to the game’s lead villain, Ghirahim, who some players and critics regard as homophobic.

Why it matters: The mixed feelings about Ghirahim go beyond whether “Zelda” players think the character is interesting or offensive but whether queer gamers, specifically, want to reject or reclaim him.

The details: Ghirahim is, in gaming parlance, a “boss” character — a powerful enemy who encounters series hero Link several times in the popular adventure.

  • He wears tight, revealing clothes, an earring and what appears to be eyeshadow and lipstick, sporting a look and demeanor described as “fabulous,” by one queer critic of the game.
  • He taunts Link at the start of their encounters, sneaking behind him during their first meeting and flicking his tongue, asking Link if his well-toned body leaves the hero “breathless” in another.
What they’re saying: “It feels like the character is fully built around the concept of gay panic,” one longtime “Zelda” fan told Axios.

  • They view those scenes of Ghirahim sneaking up on Link as designed to make the presumed cis straight player uncomfortable.
  • “As a queer person, I find the character to be solidly homophobic.”
The big picture: Nintendo declined to comment about Ghirahim to Axios, but the generally beloved gaming giant has a history of regressive themes appearing in the corners of its games.

  • In 2014, it failed to enable gay relationships in its social simulation game “Tomodachi Life,” and later apologized for it.
  • In 2016, it altered a criticized scene for the Western version of one of its games in order to avoid, in its own statement’s words, “expression which might be considered as gay conversion or drugging that occurs between characters.”
  • The lauded 2017 adventure “The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild,” included what some viewed as an insensitive scene about Link crossdressing, though some fans embraced that and celebrated the hero’s “beautiful” new look.
“I’m very much of two minds about Ghirahim,” said Kotaku managing editor Carolyn Petit, who in 2019 made a video critiquing the character.

  • On the one hand, she said, characters like him “reinforce the idea that queerness, and queer people, are inherently dangerous and disruptive to the social order.”
  • On the other: “I think for some of us, there’s a desire to reclaim these characters, perhaps because many of us have had so few other representations for so much of our lives, and maybe also because, in a strange sense, we can relate to them.”
  • “The world often tells us that we’re aberrant. ... So when a character like Ghirahim comes along who wants to tear down the current order, there’s a part of me that wants to root for him."
 
Ghirahim is a demon for fucks sake. Acting creepy isn't him being queer or whatever, it's him being a creepy fucking demon.
Finally someone who understands!
I actually think that Ghirahim is a fun villain, and since he's supposed to be the antithesis of Fi (she's the spirit of the master sword, he's the spirit of gannon's sword) his behavior makes total sense.
 
Finally someone who understands!
I actually think that Ghirahim is a fun villain, and since he's supposed to be the antithesis of Fi (she's the spirit of the master sword, he's the spirit of gannon's sword) his behavior makes total sense.
Not ganon's sword, Demise's sword. Ganon does not exist at the point in time that Skyward sword takes place in And demise's demon/gypsy curse he puts on link's family is the explanation of why Ganon constantly causes trouble for the many Links throughout he series. Demise is clearly based on Ganon design wise but in a "THIS ISN"T GANON GUYS HE'S DIFFERENT" kinda way.
 
1. Must have some kind of gay
2. Gayness must be prevalent and impactful
3. It must make gay people feel good

Sorry, I'm just taking notes for making gay porn

"Link is the real bad guy:mad:"- a goblin, probably
 
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What’s the problem?
 
Finally someone who understands!
I actually think that Ghirahim is a fun villain, and since he's supposed to be the antithesis of Fi (she's the spirit of the master sword, he's the spirit of gannon's sword) his behavior makes total sense.
Yeah, the point was him intentionally trying to weird Link out and get a laugh out of it.

He's a fucking embodiment of chaos that's supposed to contrast with Fi's almost-robotic 'Spirit of Order' personality.
 
Kefka isn't gay he's just a man turned god that actually inflicted damage to his world
Just talking about the design features and how western obsessives like to pretend that means it's "ghey coded". The Emperor looks like Goblin King David Bowie. Kefka looks like The Joker in the middle of trooning out. And Seymour looks like a Jojo's reject.
 
I guess they don't know about Kuja. :lol:
To be fair that game also had a fat blue queen who somehow gave birth to a beautiful princess, a mage that is a factory created clone made from compressed souls, a young girl whose pants disturbingly leave her crotch completely exposed, and the most accurate representation of a nonbinary person in video games in Quina.

I actually had to look Kuja up to remember that he has weird bishonen bisexual stuff going on because he just gets lost in the rest of that insane cast.
 
Hang yourselves, Journos. The game is ten fucking years old. All these gay-fetishist girls ruined the Zelda franchise and make me embarrassed to be a fan. Acting like this is a brand new product while giving these "ground-breaking" takes in current year makes me so MATI. Since when have faggoty villains been a unique concept?
 
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