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does cargo not get out going orders for the station to full fill like from setcom or anything
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- 1 de Mar, 2021
/vg/ do have something kind of similar, I played a round a few months ago in cargonia and there's a system you could set up with telepads and Rapid Crate Senders across the departments which could work for Riviera if you're keen on the concept. You'd setup said telepads wherever you felt like in each department then use the RCS on a crate once it's ready to go in order to teleport it over to the department. The telepads and RCS could be both built by R&D or ordered through supply requests, it was pretty nifty
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- 15 de Dic, 2022
more experiments but found an existing crab in the textures so i just stretched its texture over this and use the in game coloring to change its colors. I just need a second opinion on this because i think it looks strange but interesting.
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- 3 de Ene, 2024
First of all hot pink crabs are forbidden, second of all that actually looks a lot better maybe change color and soften the outline a bit?
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- 15 de Dic, 2022
i picked a dark purple and that is the color it gave me so it might just be the coloring system not allowing dark colors
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- 3 de Ene, 2024
Must be the mixing algorithm, base sprite is still red I take it? I honestly think probably any colors available should just be pre-colored, that way you can have a uniquely colored midsection and so on, not be stuck with shades of only one color.
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the base is a black/gray color the mid section is tan
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- 23 de Mar, 2024
What's the problem here exactly? You can already:
- drag them yourself and hand a crate to the person directly;
- ride a cargo tug train and drop the crate off in front of the guy;
- put the crate on a MULEbot and yell at a person to accept the delivery over radio once it arrives;
- use disposals to mail the crate into the person's department (I'm not sure if we have this system implemented);
All of this seems unneccessary when you have this -
Just make the receiver scan the crate with a crate scanner (this is already implemented) or stamp it with the head of department's stamp. Invoice idea could work if the invoice was simply stuck to the crate and the delivery is deemed fulfilled if you tear it off of a crate.
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- 11 de Sep, 2024
I don't get the objection to single-player cargo when, currently, most rounds are essentially single-player for cargo already. You're not the one who decides whether it's single-player or not, it's the amount of players online. You're just punishing players for wanting to play a role by giving them nothing they can do by themselves. I'd understand if we could get 20+ crew (not just players) on consistently, and if that crew had good incentive to actively use cargo (say they also act as the actual financial department of the station, and wages go through them/some automatic server they maintain), but we don't. Every department, every job should have a purpose even without other people around, otherwise there's no reason to join it in the first place, completing the negative feedback loop of no-one playing a job. With cargo it's even worse, as no-one playing cargo means people don't expect cargo to be manned, therefore not ordering anything; and people not ordering anything leads to people not playing cargo. Cargo needs something to do without other people.
There's also the idea of low-pop allowances. A station with fewer than 20 crew could get more access on each job, could get a stimulus from NanoTrasen to get them going, etc. which is what some other servers do already. It's not about balance – you should never, ever think in the terms of balance for these kinds of party games – it's about getting the ball rolling. If a player can have fun by himself, he's more likely to stick around despite no-one else being on, therefore adding to the player count, therefore making others more likely to stick around due to player count, and so on and so on. Speaking of, it would be nice to have some kind of updating banner for the server with player/round stats.
Also, dragging 4+ bodies from the Intrepid medical shuttle to medbay to be properly treated is a pain and can only be done with cheese like bodybags.
There's also the matter of selecting for longer-term rounds versus short and spiffy rounds, but that's a whole different discussion. Thus far, most rounds have been too short to actually experience all the intended mechanics (and I prefer them fairly short), so the focus should be simplifying and streamlining processes, not making shit more complicated (because no-one will use it if it takes too long).
There's also the idea of low-pop allowances. A station with fewer than 20 crew could get more access on each job, could get a stimulus from NanoTrasen to get them going, etc. which is what some other servers do already. It's not about balance – you should never, ever think in the terms of balance for these kinds of party games – it's about getting the ball rolling. If a player can have fun by himself, he's more likely to stick around despite no-one else being on, therefore adding to the player count, therefore making others more likely to stick around due to player count, and so on and so on. Speaking of, it would be nice to have some kind of updating banner for the server with player/round stats.
Also, dragging 4+ bodies from the Intrepid medical shuttle to medbay to be properly treated is a pain and can only be done with cheese like bodybags.
I can confirm it works. It's a fairly ancient system, every codebase should have it. I do like the idea of a semi-automated delivery acceptance system that only awards you goodboy points when someone picks up the crate, however, I've never experienced cargo not delivering shit properly. There's either cargo and they deliver well to everyone 99% of the time, or there isn't a cargo, and right now, it's solidly the latter.
There's also the matter of selecting for longer-term rounds versus short and spiffy rounds, but that's a whole different discussion. Thus far, most rounds have been too short to actually experience all the intended mechanics (and I prefer them fairly short), so the focus should be simplifying and streamlining processes, not making shit more complicated (because no-one will use it if it takes too long).
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- 23 de Mar, 2024
I couldn't have said it better myself @"Controlled Demolition", although it appears that with the introduction of new reverse contracts Cargo will have shit to do every time there're people playing any other department so the issue should be resolved when they get implemented (because if there's nobody playing any other department, that means you're probably one of the 1-3 people online so you might as well go do some mining).
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- 29 de Mayo, 2020
If you are cargo and nobody is ordering anything then your role is to order stuff yourself and enjoy time as the most self reliant department other than engineering on the station.
No chef? become Bargonia and grill.
No sec? Arm yourself.
No power? Build your own engine in all that cargo space you are not using and then cut the lines to the rest of the station, making you Texas on your own independent grid.
Thumbnails related, its what cargoniansshould get up to when left unattended
No chef? become Bargonia and grill.
No sec? Arm yourself.
No power? Build your own engine in all that cargo space you are not using and then cut the lines to the rest of the station, making you Texas on your own independent grid.
Thumbnails related, its what cargonians
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- 9 de Ago, 2019
"What do you mean don't set up a singularity engine in Cargo? This is tyranny!"
Proceed to order guns and legally secede from the station.
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- 23 de Mar, 2024
Exactly, but on Riviera Cargo starts with $0 and only has enough crates in their storage for $350 more, so it needs to somehow make more money first before ordering goodies for themselves and that's exactly what we're debating here.
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- 11 de Sep, 2024
Unfortunately, QM doesn't have mining access. In other words, cargo may as well go break in everywhere. (not that it's much of a problem, 3 people is "everyone gets all access" territory regardless)
All examples from (shit) stations that allow cargo to act on its own, and have starter money. On Riviera, starter money is $0, there are no periodical wages or automatic contracts (yet), you get $50 per empty crate with no other real options for income (other than siphoning your own very limited account), and (I believe) you need $450 just for an Electrician's crate. Not to harp on the fact too much, but they may as well be a pure roleplay role with how little agency they get.
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- 15 de Dic, 2022
darkened the core crab texture same color of purple to what think
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- 3 de Ene, 2024
Updates
- detective fixed
- evidence computer now works
- fingerprint cards improved a bit, also turns out you can get cards by hitting mobs with the forensic scanner
- gets .38 revolver again instead of 1911, and real bullets
- whoever 'pastelwoodchipper' is fixed beepsky pathfinding (navbeacon indentation was messed up apparently)
- broker-o-mat is now sheet based instead of stack based, so for instance you can order 15 sheets of uranium as robotics or whatever instead of having to buy a full stack edit: this is by @MAAAD
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- 15 de Dic, 2022
what fucking faggots any ways here is more crabs
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- 23 de Mar, 2024
You can't get dehubbed because not even Lummox himself has access to BYOND SS13 hub, or else all of the 18+ ERP furfag servers would've been nuked long time ago (18+ content is forbidden on BYOND as per its ToS). Also old /vm/station had a hub entry that looked like picrel and never got dehubbed. It most likely an issue in the codebase or something, gecko should investigate what's wrong.
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